"Trans girl" sweeps track meet, brags about it

[Andrew NDB]

http://www.csfights.com/watch-transg...e-second-time/

[Sumac]

Ugly and despicable.
Another effort on part of men to usurp and take away something that belong to women.

[Candy Kappa]

he should be wrestling in the right division.

[sdp]

In my school wrestling included both sexes in the same categories, it wasn't divided. There were barely any female wrestlers but they competed with men of their weight category.

[Refractive Reflections]

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by sdp

In my school wrestling included both sexes in the same categories, it wasn't divided. There were barely any female wrestlers but they competed with men of their weight category.

Except there is difference between school level and a state level.

I can't imagine feelings of this woman, whose award was stolen by this man for the "great social justice".
"Justice", my ass.

And the worst thing - she can't complain, because, due to insane social climate she can be "reprimanded" for stating obvious - trans women, no matter amount of hormones and operations are not women and still have natural advantage. And therefor have no place in the women's competitions.

Now it would be a good time to PlastronCafe to run in this thread and start her preaching that "science postulates that men and women are not different" or that science does not know about difference between men and women, because, "science knows nothing and always changes".

Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

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Laugh all you want, but this is exactly what might happen, if things will continue to develop the way they are.

Apparently it was not enough for some men to have their own league. Now they can appropriate women league, which will become "league for male losers who can't achieve anything in the league for the men".

How are women feeling about this? How do they feel when all their efforts are wasted due to natural advantage of trans women (which, if you listen to some TAs do not exist)?
No-one cares. It's all men's rights that matter.
Always men's rights.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Except there is difference between school level and a state level.

I can't imagine feelings of this woman, whose award was stolen by this man for the "great social justice".
"Justice", my ass.

It's not "the great social justice"... Didn't you read the article? the High School is denying him to wrestle in the Men's Division, where he wants to wrestle and where he should wrestle.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

It's not "the great social justice"... Didn't you read the article? the High School is denying him to wrestle in the Men's Division, where he wants to wrestle and where he should wrestle.

If this guy cared about women's feelings and efforts, as much as he cared about his own, he always could chose not to participate in the Women's competition.

Otherwise it looks like "OK, they don't let me compete with men? OKI-DOKI, I am gonna compete with women, even though it's obvious that I am bigger and stronger than them and my win would mean nothing, because of this, but alright. Who cares, if I hurt their feelings? It's just women! "

It's basically "taking candy from a baby" type of situation.

It's like making heavy weight boxer fight in the light weight category.

[Ninturtle]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Except there is difference between school level and a state level.

I can't imagine feelings of this woman, whose award was stolen by this man for the "great social justice".
"Justice", my ass.

And the worst thing - she can't complain, because, due to insane social climate she can be "reprimanded" for stating obvious - trans women, no matter amount of hormones and operations are not women and still have natural advantage. And therefor have no place in the women's competitions.

Now it would be a good time to PlastronCafe to run in this thread and start her preaching that "science postulates that men and women are not different" or that science does not know about difference between men and women, because, "science knows nothing and always changes".


Laugh all you want, but this is exactly what might happen, if things will continue to develop the way they are.

Apparently it was not enough for some men to have their own league. Now they can appropriate women league, which will become "league for male losers who can't achieve anything in the league for the men".

How are women feeling about this? How do they feel when all their efforts are wasted due to natural advantage of trans women (which, if you listen to some TAs do not exist)?
No-one cares. It's all men's rights that matter.
Always men's rights.

Girls can usually compete in the "boys" state meet, in Florida it's gender nuetral. Florida has a girls state contest and girls can compete there and in the regular state contest because they are weeks apart. I had a girl on my team wrestle in the girls state contest and almost qualify to make it to the regular state contest, so what this guy wants to do is not unheard of at all. Infact it's the norm in most states.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Ninturtle

Girls can usually compete in the "boys" state meet, in Florida it's gender nuetral. Florida has a girls state contest and girls can compete there and in the regular state contest because they are weeks apart. I had a girl on my team wrestle in the girls state contest and almost qualify to make it to the regular state contest, so what this guy wants to do is not unheard of at all. Infact it's the norm in most states.

Veeeeeeeeeeery strange approach.

Mind if I ask, when it was decided for it to be like this?

[Ninturtle]

Originally Posted by Sumac

Veeeeeeeeeeery strange approach.

Mind if I ask, when it was decided for it to be like this?

I guess it just always was like this as the girls state contest hasn't been around as long. There aren't really too many girls wrestling teams to be honest, most of the time girls are on a team with a lot of guys and there Coaches take them to the girls state contest on there own. It really doesn't feel weird especially since girls can compete with guys pretty well, especially at low weight classes when guys are not as fully developed.

[sdp]

There's nothing wrong with women competing in any sport along with men if they're good enough to be there. The only reason sex division exists is so women can also enjoy games competitively without being dominated by men.

A man joining a woman's division is where the problem lies since men have superior traits.

So yeah, in the age of n "genders" I think the best approach without making 50 different divisions is just to have a woman's division where you have to be a woman and not just identify as one and a "mixed" division which can be men/women/trans/whatever. That sounds fair for everyone.

Having three division along the likes of Men's/Women's/Other would not work as the other category would be too small.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by sdp

So yeah, in the age of n "genders" I think the best approach without making 50 different divisions is just to have a woman's division where you have to be a woman and not just identify as one and a "mixed" division which can be men/women/trans/whatever. That sounds fair for everyone.

Having three division along the likes of Men's/Women's/Other would not work as the other category would be too small.

So, basically two divisions?
Not sure if men will be OK with that.
Though, maybe they will since they will easily dominated everyone else in such group.

[Sumac]

Continuing this topic: according to some Trans Inclusion Toolkit, if people (girls) are not comfortable with trans woman participating in sport, then they should something find different to do.
Very feminist and progressive.

Doesn't like to have an unfair competition with a man? Get the **** out of this sport!! The only think that they have needed to put in there is to recommend girls to do some "feminine" activities.

[FredWolfLeonardo]

This thread still exists? Well damn...

[CyberCubed]

Sumac are you male or female? I'd assume male, but you never know.

[Leonardo_thebest]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Sumac are you male or female? I'd assume male, but you never know.

I'm really starting to like you.

[CyberCubed]

I found this scouring tumblr:





These are the kind of people also against this stuff.

[TurtleWA]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I found this scouring tumblr:

http://78.media.tumblr.com/3417a28fb...26ao1_1280.jpg

http://78.media.tumblr.com/e3ca9a6cd...26ao2_1280.jpg

These are the kind of people also against this stuff.

I can’t help but notice all these folks have something in common.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I found this scouring tumblr:
These are the kind of people also against this stuff.

What being homophobic has to do with what is being discussed here, especially when madness discussed in this topic especially targets lesbians?

Can you read? Can you understand what I had written and why?
Seems not.

Until you learn to read or relinquish your trollish pretentiousness of being newborn progressive, I am afraid I have nothing to discuss with you.

Originally Posted by Leonardo_thebest

I'm really starting to like you.

One cheap troll likes another.
Who could guess.