Scrag from Season 1? Story Potential?

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Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I always imagined them as being retconned into the gang seen during "The Gang's All Here" and "Once Upon a Time Machine" but I would've loved to see the individual Punks from season 1, especially in their mutated forms.

I was happy that they got a small cameo in Turtles Forever, along with Bebop and Rocksteady's human forms.

Actually, they WERE the same gang, though some of the members had changed. Lugnut from Gang's All Here was the short blonde thug, and the other black guy was in there too, and I think one of the others as well. It's likely the gang was bigger during season 1, due to several members later being mutated.

Originally Posted by Fishface

I agree, I really wish they appeared outside of Season 1 and I always wondered why they didn't. They had everything to make a good episode out of them but it still boggles me on how David Wise wouldn't do anything with them. They surely had to have come up during script meetings during rewrites and all that.

They did appear- several of the same members were in both Gang's All Here and the Hokum episode. They just weren't given names in their original appearance.

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I think its mostly because the showrunners would've likely seen them as generic punks rather than established characters, so when they did decide to make characters out of Bebop and Rocksteady's gang (Jersey Red, Lugnut etc.) they glossed over the season 1 punks and instead came up with completely new designs. Besides, David Wise didn't even write "The Gang's All Here" so things might've turned out differently, had the episode had his input.

I do have to admit, I love Bebop and Rocksteady's established gang from season 3, but atleast seeing the season 1 punks alongside them would've been so much cooler.

Lugnut and one or two of the others were the same punks from the first season. They weren't named, but it was definitely them.

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

There's no need for seing them as retconned. It's easy to assume that not all members were mutated.

It's not even a retcon. Some members changed in the later season, probably BECAUSE several had been mutated and the gang recruited new members.

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

Didn't the turtles and April O'Neil recognize them? Anyway, the gang seems to have been divided into two fractions. Shredder mutated most of those in Bebop's and Rocksteady's fraction. Those in Lungnut's fraction weren't mutated, and never inside the Technodrome when it was sent to Dimension X at the end of season 1.

Yes they did. I don't think the gang actually divided into factions. Lugnut's group was just lucky- they got out while they were still human. I have a theory that Shredder and Krang used the "failures" from the mutated gang members as test subjects for their weapons, or to test out the Foot-bots' combat skills on.....