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Old 04-26-2018, 03:36 PM   #21
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This series will take place before The Force Awakens. So we will get to see more about Captain Phasma. and maybe get to see how Finn was forced to join the First Order. Though this new show will focus on a new character. Some of the characters from The Force Awakens like Po Dameron will appear on it.
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Old 04-26-2018, 03:38 PM   #22
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I think it has to do with suspension of disbelief, when it's animated you're already accepting that these drawings are "real" so you're more willing to let them do things that your brain might not let pass if it's done by CG or a more realistic set of rules. That's what I think.
That is certainly a possibility.
It's like, how certain comic get ups work on the page, but just do NOT work on actual living people.
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Old 04-26-2018, 03:40 PM   #23
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I don't know about anyone else, but I'm far more lenient when it comes to plot and execution with animation than I am with something live action.
Yeah. Though by the same token I am more lenient when it comes to plot and execution in animation... I am also taking it far less seriously on the whole.

Just as a random example, think of TMNT 2007. The only scene people remember from it, the big Leonardo vs. Raphael scene? Now imagine if it had been in live-action instead, full-on Jim Henson suits and all.

There's no way you can tell me that scene wouldn't have had way, way, way more weight in live-action.
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Old 04-26-2018, 05:19 PM   #24
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I never understood how people say "Clone Wars fixes the PT",
maybe fixes isn't the right word.

It shows, that with NO yes men around, you CAN make even bad ideas like Jar Jar work REMARKABLY well. The only Jar Jar episodes I found annoyingly unwatchable where the one where he got a girlfriend. gross central ;o)
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Old 04-26-2018, 05:25 PM   #25
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The original "The Clone Wars" cartoons which are ironically non-canon do make the movies better
I've actually seen those. Somewhat entertaining, though certainly nothing I took remotely seriously and nothing I ever expected to be or remain in canon. I just remember Mace Windu jumping on top of ships from the ground and punching holes in walls, or something... it felt super exaggerated and stylized.
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Old 04-26-2018, 08:33 PM   #26
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I don't know about anyone else, but I'm far more lenient when it comes to plot and execution with animation than I am with something live action.

There are just things you can get away with in a cartoon that you can't with actual actors, and depending on the story sometimes Show Not Tell just works better.
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:34 AM   #27
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Not if it un did all the damage the ST caused. in fact, for this one instance only, i'd celebrate it. and it wasn't a normal version of that particular method either, more like one we've seen before in a certain series about turtles.

but all in all, i'm rather happy that SW for the most part has avoided that particular sci fi trapping.
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Old 04-27-2018, 09:34 AM   #28
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Time travel is in almost everything sci-fi, I'm really surprised Star Wars never touched on it till now.
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Old 04-27-2018, 09:42 AM   #29
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I never understood how people say "Clone Wars fixes the PT", it doesn't really. They're fun stories but I don't think they add to the movies, in fact they cause more problems. The original "The Clone Wars" cartoons which are ironically non-canon do make the movies better since they were made to bridge the gap between the movies and without them you're left with a bunch of questions. I like CG Clone Wars but it's not so amazing.
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I've actually seen those. Somewhat entertaining, though certainly nothing I took remotely seriously and nothing I ever expected to be or remain in canon. I just remember Mace Windu jumping on top of ships from the ground and punching holes in walls, or something... it felt super exaggerated and stylized.
This is the way that I look at the two Clone Wars cartoons. The first "series" was literally a bridge between episodes II and III. The second series that ran for six seasons wasn't necessarily meant to connect the two movies. It was about telling stories that happened between the two.
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I consider both cartoons canon, the 2D one doesn't conflict that much. I think the only difference is showing why General Grievous "coughs."
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Old 04-27-2018, 04:50 PM   #31
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What? There's time travel in Rebels? Ugh, talk about a bad idea.


Yeah, I always considered both shows canon, there's hardly any real contradictions unless you get super geeky and you can just wave those away.
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What? There's time travel in Rebels? Ugh, talk about a bad idea..
It's only in one episode, and it's not really time travel, it's more like, "pull a character out of this part in the past into the present."
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Old 04-27-2018, 05:56 PM   #33
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It's only in one episode, and it's not really time travel, it's more like, "pull a character out of this part in the past into the present."
So... time travel.
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Old 04-27-2018, 06:25 PM   #34
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Old 04-27-2018, 07:21 PM   #35
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If you watch the episode it's more of a "time portal." Nobody actually went back in time. Just the main character pulled someone from the past into the present.
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Old 04-28-2018, 12:09 PM   #36
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Yes, Cubed, I'm aware of that.

It just seems like taking the cheapest form of storytelling to placate adults who want stories.

Serious Ninja Turtle movies? Nah, he's a cartoon with some horror references that kids won't get. Good Justice League movies? Nah, he's a new cartoon series. Good Star Wars movies set in [x] time period? Nah, have a cartoon.

My take, anyway.
It feels like you have less problems with the actual medium and more the demographic
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he's not nice to anyone else ;o)...

just mention you're over 35 and see the reaction you get ;o)
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Old 04-28-2018, 02:01 PM   #38
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What? There's time travel in Rebels? Ugh, talk about a bad idea.
the only reason i want it out of star wars, is because it's too EASY a plot device. Star Trek Over used it to death, even IF most of those episodes tend to be their better ones.

I don't want star wars to have to fall back on the same crutch.
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Old 04-28-2018, 07:56 PM   #39
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What? There's time travel in Rebels? Ugh, talk about a bad idea.
Not really. The show handled the idea very well, imo.
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again, think Time Window from cody's lab.
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