Kathleen Kennedy leaving Lucasfilm... maybe in September

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Star Trek is an interesting one because it started out as progressive and inclusive by Design. The darker Edge to the Federation wasn't new to Discovery, we saw many hints of that in DS9.

Whereas NuTrek was more of an action movie than sci-fi, and I always got the feeling that was done because trek has this geeky history that Abrams was trying to separate it from.
And that's not even getting into the fact that the female uniforms of a military organization lacked rank insignias...

The folks I know who are the most die-hard whovians grudgingly admit that it is Canon for time Lords to regenerate as a different gender. They just don't like the doctor being female.

I think the issue here is that everybody isn't pissed off about all of these things, some fans are.

For instance, Rose's sacrifice at the end of the movie was dumb, but I think that was the point. That movie was all about deconstructing the Hail Mary play. How selfish behaving that way in a time of war is.

The darker edge to the Federation in Deep Space 9 was not to the same extent or the same focus as Discovery, though. In DS9, it was to be actively fought against. In Discovery, it's the main characters and almost always shown to be the smart play.

And Time Lords/Ladies being able to regenerate across gender was only recently introduced, by Stephen Moffat. With a clear intent to be used for the Doctor a few years later... a Checkov's Gun, if you will.

I'm not arguing for or against any of these franchises' new directions at the moment; I'm simply trying to point out that the majority of the backlash I've personally experienced or read online is not sexist in nature. The sexist voices are heard loudest, though, because that's more newsworthy--and it also enables the current production teams to ignore their actual issues or deficiencies.