Kathleen Kennedy leaving Lucasfilm... maybe in September

[plastroncafe]

Some do.
I being one of them.

As for why, because the Skywalkers aren't the only thing going on in that universe.
I mean, look how much of a fandom Boba Fett has, and he's barely got any lines.
Gonk Droids have fans.

Rogue One alone showed us what's possible in that shared universe.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Here is a good question, why do we need a new trilogy unrelated to the Skywalker family with Johnson in charge? Do the fans want it?

nope, but cancelling it would admit they where wrong at this point, and god forbid a major studio does that

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

nope, but cancelling it would admit they where wrong at this point, and god forbid a major studio does that

Just ask the DC Cinematic Universe.

I am sorry but my interest is the original trilogy cast.

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Here is a good question, why do we need a new trilogy unrelated to the Skywalker family with Johnson in charge? Do the fans want it?

I want it more than a standalone film about Kenobi or Boba Fett. I like that they're actually aporoaching this trilogy of films with a plan in place before they start filming the first movie. They should've done that before TFA.

[Vegita-San]

did they give any indication they actually HAVE a plan?

all they did, iirc, was announce his trilogy while his current movie was still going. that not only doesn't sound li ke a plan, but a reactionary action.

[MikeandRaph87]

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Originally Posted by Vegita-San

did they give any indication they actually HAVE a plan?

all they did, iirc, was announce his trilogy while his current movie was still going. that not only doesn't sound li ke a plan, but a reactionary action.

Yes, and after throwing out all the burning questions form The Force Awakens and treatment of Luke Skywalker I don't want Rian Jonson to do any more Star Wars.

We do need continuity with directors, but to have an overall plan before starting.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

andrew, theories on this? plant articles starting to surface?

supposedly kevin feige was rumored to take over lucasfilm, but i never heard this before. I hope not. marvel is i n a good place now. don't stretch out the talent. find new ones.
https://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2018...s-planned.html

I don't think Feige has any time to spare on fixing Star Wars. But maybe he could hand-pick basically a clone of himself to set them to rights. Whose name isn't Kathleen Kennedy.

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Here is a good question, why do we need a new trilogy unrelated to the Skywalker family with Johnson in charge? Do the fans want it?

There's some general push for "Knights of the Old Republic" type stuff, so maybe? I think it's the kind of things that fans won't know they will be into until it's tried.

Originally Posted by plastroncafe

As for why, because the Skywalkers aren't the only thing going on in that universe.

As long as the episodic series itself continues the Skywalker line in some way. If it doesn't, I don't really see the point.

Rogue One alone showed us what's possible in that shared universe.

If by an overabundance of fan-service coupled with completely forgettable characters, a noticeably Frankensteined together final edit, and an ending that succeeds in only f***ing up the beginning of ANH... then I guess it's true.

But actually I watched Rogue One for the second time about a month ago and I found that I enjoyed it a lot more this time. Still pretty vapid entertainment.

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

did they give any indication they actually HAVE a plan?

Kind of. All the articles speak to "Rian Johnson is developing a trilogy" and not Rian Johnson is developing the first movie in a trilogy."

all they did, iirc, was announce his trilogy while his current movie was still going. that not only doesn't sound li ke a plan, but a reactionary action.

Yeah, it kind of struck me in the same way how whenever there's the first movie in an intended franchise still in theaters, suddenly there's articles about, "Part 2 and Part 3 are already greenlit!! Scripts are being written!!" The idea being to incept you into getting excited in seeing part 1 of some big saga.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

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Yes, and after throwing out all the burning questions form The Force Awakens

They didn't abandon any burning questions from TFA, the only thing they didn't show is "The Knights of Ren" who I imagine will appear in Episode 9, and they just looked like Kylo Ren's personal guards or shock troops or whatever.

I'm sure they'll make dozens of comics/novels/cartoons about Snoke's rise to power and backstory for those who are interested. They always do that with characters who get little to no screentime in the actual movies.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

They didn't abandon any burning questions from TFA, the only thing they didn't show is "The Knights of Ren" who I imagine will appear in Episode 9, and they just looked like Kylo Ren's personal guards or shock troops or whatever.

I'm sure they'll make dozens of comics/novels/cartoons about Snoke's rise to power and backstory for those who are interested. They always do that with characters who get little to no screentime in the actual movies.

Irrelevant, because, it will look like a stupid attempt to feel void that should not be there in the first place. And most people won't read those comic books.

I don't really understand why people consider abandoning plots and questions of the past movie "good and amazing storytelling". Guess, they're enjoying fans of the series being pissed off for some reason. Guess, those reason are petty.

[CyberCubed]

I don't read the comics/novels either, but for the people curious it'll likely be revealed there. Just like they did the further adventures of Boba Fett, Bossk, what Luke did in the Rogue Squadron days, what Han did as a smuggler, what Darth Vader and Palpatine did for 30 years between the prequels and the original trilogy, etc.

All of it is just extra stories for hardcore fans, but obviously not essential information.

[Leo656]

((Raises hand))

I personally think that the guy who corrupted Luke's greatest pupil, and also re-opened the book of "Rebels vs. Empire" that was well and fully shut tightly after RotJ, is kind of important to the larger story. The between-movie adventures of a few other miscellaneous side characters is one thing, that could be resolved on-screen or not. But if you're going to re-set the board to the point where the movies and stories everyone grew up with may well have not have happened, because we're back where we started anyway, I think your fans and followers deserve a little bit more extrapolation than, "It all happened in a comic book that you're not going to read, that we may choose to completely ignore or overwrite later."

Some stories can be joined in media res without it hurting anything, but I strongly feel that leaving ALL of the connective tissue between the Original Trilogy and the Sequel Trilogy up to whether or not fans' bothered to read a bunch of "half-canon-at-best" books and stuff was a mistake, and it's not entirely playing fair with the audience. In fact, looking closely at the entire situation, one could be forgiven for accusing the new writers of simply not having any story mapped out for in-between trilogies. Because like it or not, they're not even trying to hide the fact anymore that a ton of the new material is being whipped up on the fly.

I feel like "Big Stuff" needs to actually take place in the movies, so everyone can see it and there's no debate as to its importance or place in canon. If it's in a comic book or novel, it's not actually canon. Stuff that's too important, like "Why the big Reset Button Between VI and VII?" shouldn't be left up in the air. The fact that earlier movies made decades ago when nobody knew if this "Star Wars" thing was gonna take off or not were also slapped together shouldn't excuse it when people who allegedly have a lot more on the ball are the ones responsible for these things. People are simply trying to hold them accountable for being shaky or amateurish in their storytelling, and those complaints are being dismissed by some as, "Well c'mon, it's Star Wars." I'd argue that Star Wars can be many things, but was never, until recently, a sloppily-told story.

But then, I've taken a bunch of writing and writing-related classes, so... I'unno. Some things jump out at me that others may forgive.

[newfan]

Agreed, I don't expect to have to read the comics for Star Wars. While some feel the story was told acceptably in the latest movie I'm with the people who wanted more around Snoke, after 7 I remember I being interested to see how.....never mind, cut in half already. Oh well.

[plastroncafe]

I kind of get the feeling that it didn't take a whole lot of effort to turn Ben Solo into Kylo Ren, which is why I'm not all that interested in Snoke.

He's a manipulator, and in this instance I just don't find him all that compelling.

[Candy Kappa]

The more you'll know about Snoke, the more boring he'll be. Just look at how Anakin was handled in the prequel movies, makes Darth Vader seem... less.

[Vegita-San]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

The more you'll know about Snoke, the more boring he'll be. Just look at how Anakin was handled in the prequel movies, makes Darth Vader seem... less.

if you can't make your villain interesting with more back story, it's either a bad back story or a bad villain.

[plastroncafe]

Thinking like that is exactly why I expect there to be a prequel to Jaws at some point.

I don't think there's any back story they could give snoke that would please enough people to make a story worth telling.

I would very much like to see some fanfiction/headcanon stuff regarding snoke.
So let's hear your theories.

[newfan]

Yeah I get that sometimes the less mysterious a character the less interesting they can be, this came up when I was looking for more depth on the character from another movie, the writer thought the character was more scary with the less we knew. .. but still .. I want to know a bit more
So a balance of enough I suppose. I didn't need great detail on Snoke but wanted something more to him.
Rey not coming from possible bloodlines was interesting to some (me included there too) but others liked the direction they took.

[Candy Kappa]

Guy was a dark force using space nazi, He's basically Darth Sidious without the Darth title. What else is there to know really, except that golden bathrobe was glorious so his fashion sense was divine

[Spike Spiegel]

I'd actually read a Marvel Star Wars comic about Snoke.

Marvel's current TLJ adaptation has made the story from the film much more palatable thus far, especially with the addition of thought captions for Luke. At this time they are up to issue 4, and Rey has just been captured by Snoke.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Guy was a dark force using space nazi, He's basically Darth Sidious without the Darth title. What else is there to know really

There's a lot.