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Old 07-17-2018, 08:21 PM   #121
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I didn't, I asked you a question
You did, by implying what my statement was, without understanding what it was. GJ!!

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Like I said before TMNT weren't design to look sexy or attractive hence why nobody would call those people "MANCHULDREN" also in the quote below you admit there are some people who are criticizing her design for not being sexy so there are actual manchildren who think that way.
So you are repeating the same stuff I've said twice already.
At least you are repeating something good.

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We literally know nothing about the story so there isn't anything to criticize
And some people say, I have a very literal mind.

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Can't tell if this is a legit question but to answer not really, dude is just Conan with a bowl cut.
I...have no words.

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And old She-Ra looks typical for cartoons of the 80s its almost like artistic trends change from decade to decade crazy right?
You can modernize design without sacrificing everything that it was before in the process. Of course, it requires some creativity, not that arm-chair "artists" would know it. Not that people with agenda would care about it.

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I mean Wonder Woman got her own movie so girls can look at her for "Mature Woman" also there are tons of adult characters who are like that in animation. Characters like Lin Beifong, Nicole Watterson, Eileen,
Tons.
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I can't.

What you obviously have missed is that I was trying to say, that there should be more mature looking women heroines in media. One (1) Wonder Woman is not enough, Avatar universe is dead, and you really want to use THAT as an example of "mature female character"? I barely can figure what it's supposed to be, though it reminds me of some drug induced hallucination. And who is Eileen?

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I don't think "a character's age" is the be all end all of what future generations are going to pick up when they are still kids. Zuko, Aang, and Finn aren't adults and they have some of the best character arcs in animation, Bakugo from My Hero Academia has people making videos on his character development and he is still only 16. What I want future generations to pick up are the trails and tribulations these characters go through, how the change over time, and how they react to different situations. Those are things that I think are top priority when it comes to things the future generation should pick up meanwhile I consider a character's age to be bottom tier
I am not saying otherwise, though there should be characters of all ages as a positive examples.
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Old 07-17-2018, 09:59 PM   #122
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Isn't Eileen from last of us?
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Old 07-18-2018, 04:18 AM   #123
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Isn't Eileen from last of us?
Heroine from the Last of Us is called Ellie.
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Old 07-18-2018, 09:58 AM   #124
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You can modernize design without sacrificing everything that it was before in the process. Of course, it requires some creativity, not that arm-chair "artists" would know it. Not that people with agenda would care about it.
You should post some of your art and designs, o wise one. How would you revamp She-Ra for 2018?
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:04 AM   #125
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You should post some of your art and designs, o wise one. How would you revamp She-Ra for 2018?
one can know what one likes without having any talent of their own.

and one can also recognize bad stylized art without having any talent as well.
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Old 07-18-2018, 10:45 AM   #126
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one can know what one likes without having any talent of their own.

and one can also recognize bad stylized art without having any talent as well.
I agree. That's like saying the Green Lantern movie sucked, go make your own then and show us how it's done.
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:21 AM   #127
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Old 07-18-2018, 11:53 AM   #128
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You did, by implying what my statement was, without understanding what it was. GJ!!
Okay I said "Are you saying female Heroines can't be mutants or ugly" which would imply a question, for someone who spouts out "Context" I don't think you know what the word means.


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So you are repeating the same stuff I've said twice already.
At least you are repeating something good.
Most people who finished middle school would call that "Quoting" hence the Quotation marks, you know I beginning to think you use words you don't know just to make yourself sound smarter

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And some people say, I have a very literal mind.
You said "If some idiots criticize character because she is not sexy enough, it doesn't mean that absolutely all criticism about her design or story is automatically invalid.", so how is me saying "We literally know nothing about the story so there isn't anything to criticize" taking this literally.



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I...have no words.
To be fair that was a perfect description.


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You can modernize design without sacrificing everything that it was before in the process. Of course, it requires some creativity, not that arm-chair "artists" would know it. Not that people with agenda would care about it.
Its not really "sacrificing everything" sure the made She Ra a bit bulky but she does have similar clothing to her original counterpart. They took the basis of She Ra and made their own spin into it which I would say had some creativity to it.
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Tons.
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I can't.

What you obviously have missed is that I was trying to say, that there should be more mature looking women heroines in media. One (1) Wonder Woman is not enough,
Okay how about Gamora, Carol from OK KO, Princess Bubblegum, Susan Strong, Mantis, The Crystal Gems, Captain Marvel, The Wasp, Beakley from the new Ducktales, Ranger Tabes, Princess Allura from the new Voltron show, and some of the cast from MLP FIP.

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Avatar universe is dead,
So, you use She Ra as an example for "Mature Female Characters" and that show only lasted for 2 years

Nicole Watterson has more character in her than pretty much all the cast from She Ra



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I am not saying otherwise, though there should be characters of all ages as a positive examples.
There are, I just listed them also how many positive kid/teen characters were there in the 80s
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So much weapons grade autism in this thread.


How about some predictions? References/allusions people have picked up so far? An abridged list of essential episodes of the original series for those who are interested?
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See photos from the new She-Ra series helmed by Noelle Stevenson (ew.com)

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Like in the original 1985 series, our protagonist, Adora, was kidnapped as a baby and raised with the Evil Horde, only to discover her true identity later in life. “We’ve really started from the same starting point where the original show started from because Adora has such a great backstory,” Stevenson says. “She’s separated from her family as a baby, she’s sent to another planet, she’s adopted by the villain overlord and raised by him in this evil army. She’s been raised to believe that the villains are doing the right thing and that the Princesses are the evil ones. And so we follow her as she has this crisis of faith; she’s been very sheltered her whole life and as she starts to experience the world, she realizes that there’s more to this than she knew, that maybe there’s a reason they were called the Evil Horde,” Stevenson laughs, “that maybe they were evil.”
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"Ahh that's where I recognized Noelle Stevenson from--there's going to be a movie of Nimona?!"

Good of them to address the "The Evil Hoard is...EVIL?!" thing
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Good of them to address the "The Evil Hoard is...EVIL?!" thing
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Old 07-18-2018, 02:17 PM   #133
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The thing that I think about how this is an adaptation of a spin-off of a show whose main character's "disguise" is having less clothes on than he started, and everyone dresses like they're stepping in or out of a fantasy-themed disco from the 70's. There's a reason why the "He-Man Sings" thing was a meme.

This almost looks like it's going to be chaste in comparison.


I like that it looks like they'll really, really dig into her backstory and what that means for her future. That she has to turn against the person who raised her and his conquest. From what I know of the original show, it wasn't really focused on. "Oh...sh*t...I guess they're called the Evil Hoard for a reason. Off to save the planet, suddenly master the powers I have for some reason, and meet my biological parents on my smoker-voiced pegasus!"

The story of her coming out from being sheltered and going out into the Great Unknown looks pretty great.
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Old 07-18-2018, 05:52 PM   #134
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have you been living under a rock? She Ra and He man are famous cartoons to sell toys from the 80's.

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This is literally the first time I’ve seen She Ra. I’m glad they reboot this series, I probably wouldn’t have known this character my whole life. She seems like a warrior Wonder Woman type? I’m excited for this show.

I saw people’s angry comments how she’s made by a boyish lesbian so She Ra also now looks like a boyish lesbian, how her chest is now flat and she wears shorts under her skirt... lol just ridiculous comments.

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I don't even see the problem; I think she looks cute. And I can bet you that not one of those people have given much thought to the He-Man Universe for decades until this point.



Seems to be a recurring event with...every 80's show reboot that's been coming out of the woodwork these days.
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This girl is not happy, and I see her point. I like when girl heroes have muscles too btw, but She-Ra doesn't look like that. This thread is already too political but why is She-Ra's friend fat? Isn't she supposed to be a warrior too? How does that make sense?

She-Man and He-Boy does seem a bit hilarious but I think it could be worse like what Thundercats got, the art style is fine, if the episodes aren't full of propaganda then it could work. Could because He-Man/She-Ra is not a concept that works very well IMO at least in modern times.
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I don't even see the problem; I think she looks cute. And I can bet you that not one of those people have given much thought to the He-Man Universe for decades until this point.



Seems to be a recurring event with...every 80's show reboot that's been coming out of the woodwork these days.
Cuz they keep rebooting it wrong.

Plus on the content of boobs since people keep bringing it up, She-Ra didn't even have huge boobs. She just had a normal adult woman's chest cause very very few women of her height and build are 100% flat chested.

I swear boobs scare SJWs.
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Cuz they keep rebooting it wrong.

Plus on the content of boobs since people keep bringing it up, She-Ra didn't even have huge boobs. She just had a normal adult woman's chest cause very very few women of her height and build are 100% flat chested.

I swear boobs scare SJWs.
I've noticed this with Marvel's recent portrayals of She-Hulk and Captain Marvel in particular.

From the icy depths of 4Chan, here is a revised design of She-Ra in the new show's style. I guarantee the complaints would not be as vocal if the character looked like this:

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Cuz they keep rebooting it wrong.

Plus on the content of boobs since people keep bringing it up, She-Ra didn't even have huge boobs. She just had a normal adult woman's chest cause very very few women of her height and build are 100% flat chested.

I swear boobs scare SJWs.
But this She-Ra is younger so it made sense that she’s doesn’t have fully developed boobs.
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Wasn't she already 16 to begin with even in the original show?
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