Zatanna movie in talks

[Leo656]

I was told by the higher-ups after last time that I'm supposed to do that instead of saying how I really feel. Their house, their rules.

And no, not plas. I won't speak for who because it's private. If they want to "out" themselves, they can. But it's actually several people.

As if I'd ever sit through a movie with The Rock in it. You're a card.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Yeah, we're done. I absolutely don't talk to people who say ridiculous things like that. What a tart.

Oki-dokey.
I can have less pretentious pompous elitists in my life as well.

Originally Posted by Leo656

Regardless, wow. Stalk someone else. I keep telling you, I don't wanna talk to you on account of ... lots of sh*t. Many people here have been Reporting you for weeks due to harassment, and now I'm forced to do the same thing. No Means NO, dipsh*t. You're ignorant, standoffish, and a troll. And I don't f*cking waste time with people like that.

Save your words, I'm not indulging you any further. Every single time I see one of your posts directed at me, it's a Harassment report. That's a promise.

I won't put much value in this, since it sounds like a drunk babbling and comes from a person who was so butthurt about people talking **** about his favorite character that he had left forum for some time.

Better invest in some rage management courses.

Also, I've never insulted you.
You had perceived as insult banter about movies and criticism of your opinion, which tell me more about your ego and you as a person.

[Leo656]

One more time. Omitting names of films or characters so it can be whittled down to bare facts.

- You insist - repeatedly - that a director somehow "misunderstood" or "butchered" a character that you, yourself, admit to having little to no understanding of, previously.

- I state a simple fact, that said director's interpretation was heavily-inspired by the very same comic books that he, I, and many others have read, which are openly available for others to look at, as well, if they're genuinely curious as to what went into the film's presentation. So that whether they like it or not, they can at least have an informed opinion.

- Thus, it is absolutely impossible for his presentation to be "incorrect", as you have claimed. It was simply not what you wanted. Which is fine in and of itself. It may very well be against the public's general expectation, and that is understandable. But you used words like "incorrect", "misunderstood", etc., to describe his approach to the work, and then insisted that the fact it's simply keeping close to the source material is somehow "meaningless". It may be meaningless to you, but not to others.

It has very little to do with the movie itself, at this point, and very much to do with your casual dismissal of facts, combined with the implicit attitude that comes across that people who disagree that said movie is terrible by your own criteria are stupid. I genuinely don't care if you like a movie, and never went into the conversation to try and change your mind. You aired a specific grievance - that the director didn't know what he was doing and thus, in your eyes, did a terrible job - and I merely tried to illustrate that in fact, he had a very clear idea of what he was doing, and that's why some people do in fact think he did a good job.
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And if you truly don't think any of your replies to me across several threads have been either smarmy or condescending in tone, I truly don't know what to say. Oh well.

[Krutch]

Man of Steel conversations will never die at The Technodrome, it seems

Leo, could you explain away an issue I have with the movie for me?

I don't have a problem with Superman killing Zod, or anyone, if the situation calls for it. I mean my favourite Superman comic, Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow, ends with Supes committing murder. My trouble with the way it was handled in Man of Steel was there was no setup for the payoff - which Zack treated as the climax of the movie.

Was there any real insight given on how Clark views the act of killing before this? I havent seen the movie in a few years (and likely never will again) but I can only think of Jonathan's talk about the school bus - but that's a wildly different conversation and it doesn't at all apply to the situation.

Again, this is why I like Zack as an idea man and a visualist but not as a storyteller. Even if there is stuff in the movie that addressed this, I shouldn't have to dig that deep to find some sort of setup for the payoff of the climax of the movie. That's poorly constructed storytelling.

If the counter argument is that the act of killing isn't his big decision but it's the his choice to protect the people at all costs, then even that isn't framed properly. And the way it was shot (dropping to his knees and shouting in anguish) you could argue he actually regrets doing it or at the very least, still isn't confident in his actions. Which is the point of the movie, right? So, to me, it's either a movie which structurally doesn't understand its own climax or a movie about a guy who still hasn't learned anything. Either way, its a very muddled story - which is probably why it has a hard time connecting to alot of people.

Not knocking on anyone for liking this movie - or any movie. Just curious how, as someone who likes the movie, you feel this was addressed within the story given.

[Leo656]

My break's over so we can talk about it later or another time. I might send you a PM, so as to avoid further toxicity poisoning what really should merely be simple conversation.

If I don't get to it feel free to remind me later. Next few days are likely to be hectic for obvious reasons. Preferably poke me on my "wall"; my PM box is full (again) and things are most likely being bounced, so that'll most likely get my attention faster than a PM.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leo656

- You insist - repeatedly - that a director somehow "misunderstood" or "butchered" a character that you, yourself, admit to having little to no understanding of, previously.

I don't need to read 10k comic books to appreacite, like or understand a character.
If movie adaptation makes character unlikable - I am not obligate to give a **** how this character was represented in the source material.

Originally Posted by Leo656

- I state a simple fact, that said director's interpretation was heavily-inspired by the very same comic books that he, I, and many others have read, which are openly available for others to look at, as well, if they're genuinely curious as to what went into the film's presentation. So that whether they like it or not, they can at least have an informed opinion.

You have seemingly stuck on the idea "good source material = awesome adaptation". It's not always works like that.
Source material might be good, but Snyder's interpretation of it was mediocre in opinion of large amount of people, including those who also read 10k comic books about Superpups.

Originally Posted by Leo656

- Thus, it is absolutely impossible for his presentation to be "incorrect", as you have claimed. It was simply not what you wanted. Which is fine in and of itself. It may very well be against the public's general expectation, and that is understandable. But you used words like "incorrect", "misunderstood", etc., to describe his approach to the work, and then insisted that the fact it's simply keeping close to the source material is somehow "meaningless". It may be meaningless to you, but not to others.

No, it is very much possible to make an "incorrect" adaptation by misreading intentions of the work, as well, as ****ing up plot, pacing and performance of the actors.

Originally Posted by Leo656

It has very little to do with the movie itself, at this point, and very much to do with your casual dismissal of facts, combined with the implicit attitude that comes across that people who disagree that said movie is terrible by your own criteria are stupid. I genuinely don't care if you like a movie, and never went into the conversation to try and change your mind. You aired a specific grievance - that the director didn't know what he was doing and thus, in your eyes, did a terrible job - and I merely tried to illustrate that in fact, he had a very clear idea of what he was doing, and that's why some people do in fact think he did a good job.

Very clear idea =/= not a good idea.
He also had a very clear on what he was doing in Sucker Punch, for example. Or Watchman. Snyder is an "idea man", but his ideas more often than not, come in conflict with everything else in the work.

Schumacher also had a very clear idea of what he was doing.

[Autbot_Benz]

DC Films Taps ‘Promising Young Woman’ Director Emerald Fennell to Write Zatanna Superhero Movie (EXCLUSIVE)

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/e...ie-1234931976/

Emerald Fennell, the Oscar-nominated director of “Promising Young Woman,” is taking on a different kind of vigilante. She has been tapped to write “Zatanna,” a big-screen adaptation of the DC Comics heroine.

The movie, from Warner Bros.’ DC Films and J.J. Abrams’ Bad Robot Productions, is set to be released theatrically.

The upcoming installment in the DC Extended Universe will be Zatanna’s first franchise appearance. She is known for her involvement with the Justice League, though the character has never appeared in a DC movie. Serinda Swan previously portrayed Zatanna, marking the superhero’s live-action debut, on later seasons of The CW show “Smallville.” The role of Zatanna has not been cast yet.

[Leo656]

What's the over/under on whether or not she's black?

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Leo656

What's the over/under on whether or not she's black?

good question hopefully not but knowing dc most likely

[Leo656]

And fishnets stockings are "too sexy", so that's out.

[Autbot_Benz]

if they don't go with the OG Zatanna outfit with the fishnet stockings they might go with her Justice League Dark look

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Leo656

And fishnets stockings are "too sexy", so that's out.

If Zatanna doesn't show off some damn nice legs in fishnets, I will write a STRONGLY worded letter to my congressman.

[Andrew NDB]

So they screwed with Constantine on Legends of Tomorrow for absolutely no reason, then.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

So they screwed with Constantine on Legends of Tomorrow for absolutely no reason, then.

Basically and now we get Keanu Reeves Constantine instead?


I deleted the article because I think THR got Zatanna mixed up with Madam Zanadu that got cancelled with Constantine