Ash Reunites With Old Friends In Pokemon TV Special

[Voltron]

This is a big reason why I stopped watching the show. The gym battles were few and far between, and the gym battles were usually ho-hum events that centered around Ash winning a badge in unconventional ways.

He did the same thing with Erika and Sabrina, if I remember right.

[MikeandRaph87]

When will the Aloa episode (s) featurimg Misty and Brock be available dubed?

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Voltron

This is a big reason why I stopped watching the show. The gym battles were few and far between, and the gym battles were usually ho-hum events that centered around Ash winning a badge in unconventional ways.

He did the same thing with Erika and Sabrina, if I remember right.

Remember how in Kanto every gym was destroyed during Ash's visit?

[Allio]

Originally Posted by The Great Saiyaman

What I didn't like about how Brock and Misty were depicted here was that the both of them were talking about giving Ash the Gym badges out of pity.

that was even something Misty was saying in her seasons as a companion.

[The Great Saiyaman]

Originally Posted by sdp

Anime has always had fan service even in kids shows but the term fan service is thrown around a lot, especially in a negative sense. Bathing suits can be really obvious fan service or subtle, I mean it's only clothing. Tons of western shows have characters wearing bikinis, it's not meant to be taken that way even if it can. That is just Misty's outfit in the game, and I believe we see Brock shirtless doing his game pose as well in the next episode.

Heh, it's actually not the Pokémon Anime that has the most fan service, although got got pretty racy at times.

There's a good reason WHY the episode from which this came was banned...

But the Pokémon Manga was actually way worse.

And if you think Misty looking the way she did in the uncut version of the manga, wasn't outrageous enough...

...Check out Jessie...

When the Manga was translated, Misty and Jessie were given enlarged skirts and tops and Jessie also got a breast reduction.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by The Great Saiyaman

...Check out Jessie...

When the Manga was translated, Misty and Jessie were given enlarged skirts and tops and Jessie also got a breast reduction.

[Allio]

Originally Posted by The Great Saiyaman

When the Manga was translated, Misty and Jessie were given enlarged skirts and tops and Jessie also got a breast reduction.

the editing of the manga was really jarring, like you could tell from first glance that there was something wrong.

It's like how in Pokemon special, the pokeboobs censorship looked awful and off putting. Though the censorship gave us Norman being faster than lightning because adults can't hit kids.

[sdp]

I remember buying as a kid the Electric Tail of Pikachu manga and not everything was completely censored, it wasn't until the re-prints that they censored it. Some characters still had huge boobs and hooker outfits in the first print, I had no idea it was edited but I did wonder why Jessie had boobs in some panels and completely flat in others. I was also confused by the continuity errors caused by the edits since they released some stories before others making a mess of the continuity. But yeah that manga was my first view of the Pokemon world not counting the games I think and sadly nothing has compared to it since

Originally Posted by Voltron

This is a big reason why I stopped watching the show. The gym battles were few and far between, and the gym battles were usually ho-hum events that centered around Ash winning a badge in unconventional ways.

He did the same thing with Erika and Sabrina, if I remember right.

This misconception goes back to 1999... He only got some badges in kanto that he didn't really earn, like half of them but every other generation he has gotten the badges legitimately.

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

So there was an interesting reference in the latest crossover episodes...Misty's sisters are back and are running the gym again, which means there's nothing to hold Misty in Kanto anymore. I think this was a backdoor way of leaving the door open for a long-term return to the cast in the next series or whenever the writers want to have Ash and Misty bump into each other again in another region at any given point really.

What about Brock? No mention if he also isn't in Pewter's Gym?

I'm not sure if they'd actually bring Misty back, she'd be great and is easily the most popular Pokemon girl, when I worked Pokemon TCG events little girls still liked Misty the best and this was when D/P was airing, but a new girl has always been popular among fans and kids as well. I'd be fine if she returned or if we get a new girl as long as she isn't lame like Iris. Brock should never return, I love him but we've had enough Brock, these small comebacks are enough for him.

Originally Posted by The Great Saiyaman

What I didn't like about how Brock and Misty were depicted here was that the both of them were talking about giving Ash the Gym badges out of pity.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20161108220157
Come on, Brock's little brothers and Sisters begged Ash not to defeat Brock at their fight in the Pewter City gym and Ash, seeing what Brock did to provide for them and having a keen sense of honor, complied with their wishes. In the end Brock gave Ash the badge to thank him.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/...20111102185418
Ash' fight against Misty in the Cerulean City gym was interrupted by Team Rocket, who wanted to raid the Gym. Ash helped to chase Team Rocket off and Misty and her sisters gave him the badge, again as a token of their gratitude.

Come on, couldn't the script writers look up the actual episodes and see how it really happened before they made Brock and Misty behave mean towards Ash?

I think that was more of the writers taking a jab at Kanto Ash not earning all his badges through normal battles, which many people still believe he didn't earn any at all and an excuse to show Misty/Brock battling as gym leaders on screen. Or maybe they just didn't remember, I mean this is an anime where they have tons of opportunities to do cool stuff but never do, so many characters could've returned for problem of the week episodes or re-visited places when Ash was in Kanto again for the Battle Frontier, Iris returning in XY, the GS ball, etc.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by The Great Saiyaman

Come on, couldn't the script writers look up the actual episodes and see how it really happened before they made Brock and Misty behave mean towards Ash?

I interpreted the whole "pity" thing as just the two giving a good friend a rib

[FredWolfLeonardo]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I interpreted the whole "pity" thing as just the two giving a good friend a rib

Me too.

Having Brock and Misty appear multiple times in the Sun and Moon series pretty exciting. It makes up for the missed opportunity of not having them in the rebooted movies (I choose you and the Power of Us).

I hope Serena appears in Alola sometime. Also, With Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire being so important during the sixth generation of pokemon, I'm surprised that May didn't make an appearance in Kalos, or Iris, who would've continued the tradition of Pokegirls coming to visit Ash and friends in the series following their own.

[MikeandRaph87]

There is the two parter which show Nrock and Misty giving battle demonstrations against Ash. When do they appear again or has it not aired yet?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

There is the two parter which show Nrock and Misty giving battle demonstrations against Ash. When do they appear again or has it not aired yet?

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Misty/Brock appeared in a 2-parter in 2017, and now another 2-parter. The Mega evo battles happened last year, Ash beat Misty's Mega Gyarados with Pikachu, so now Ash has a huge official win over her with her strongest pokemon. Brock battled Kiawe.

This was Misty's only return in 12 years since way back in her old AG cameos from 2005. That being said outside the battle eps, don't expect that much out of these eps other than Misty visiting Alola or Brock flirting with Olivia one of the SM characters. They're mostly just fun filler-ish episodes with not much plot points.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Misty/Brock appeared in a 2-parter in 2017, and now another 2-parter. The Mega evo battles happened last year, Ash beat Misty's Mega Gyarados with Pikachu, so now Ash has a huge official win over her with her strongest pokemon. Brock battled Kiawe.

This was Misty's only return in 12 years since way back in her old AG cameos from 2005. That being said outside the battle eps, don't expect that much out of these eps other than Misty visiting Alola or Brock flirting with Olivia one of the SM characters. They're mostly just fun filler-ish episodes with not much plot points.

I was trying to find out if the second return happened yet and if so if it had been dubbed. I take it the second return after the two parter from late 2017 has yet to air in either area, just announced.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

I was trying to find out if the second return happened yet and if so if it had been dubbed. I take it the second return after the two parter from late 2017 has yet to air in either area, just announced.

The first part of the new two-parter recently aired, that's why I bumped the thread back up in the first place to talk about the "backdoor" they wrote in to possibly keep using Misty for later guest appearances in other regions.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

The first part of the new two-parter recently aired, that's why I bumped the thread back up in the first place to talk about the "backdoor" they wrote in to possibly keep using Misty for later guest appearances in other regions.

Thanks for clarifying! Aired just in Japan or English Dub? If it has been dubbed I would like to look it up. What is the episode title? I am that crazy guy who loves Dick Grayson and Barbara Gordon more than Bruce Wayne and the same applies for Brock and Misty over Ash.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Thanks for clarifying! Aired just in Japan or English Dub?

Aired just in Japan for the moment

[ranger_scout]

I'm hoping that they will continue to make more appearances in future seasons.

[sdp]

The writers don't care much about what they do with the series so don't look too much into it since they always miss opportunities of bringing back characters or easy ways to make plotlines more interesting. If we didn't see May return for ORAS or Iris because she was the previous Gen Pokegirl same with Serena means they rather create a boring filler character than anything else. I'm sure Misty will return eventually but that explanation doesn't mean much about Misty returning, she's popular but they love to have new fan service girl every gen.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This was Misty's only return in 12 years since way back in her old AG cameos from 2005.

You love underselling the popularity of Misty Those were not cameos but full blown appearances and it was in 2006 when she got to star next to Ash in the special meant to phase in the new voice actors and they chose her because of her popularity. After that she's made plenty of appearances as cameos in every generation even if non-speaking either in the background or even as flash backs.

[ZariusTwo]

And so the latest crossover has concluded

Spoiler:

Misty no longer thinks running her sisters' gym is all that bad, and she intends to make it world famous...Misty desiring to be a master gym leader is perfect synergy with Ash's desire to master all Pokemon

[Allio]

So just saw I chooe you and Everyone's story/Power of Us. I really wish Pokemon movies had some fansubs, it seems like it takes a few years for Pocket Monsters subs to get to them...but anyways.

I Choose You:
It's...what I expected? some elements I liked and some I didn't. While I didn't care much when it forced in remakes of certain scenes (outside of the obvious Bye Bye Butterfree was the pokemon even needed) but I actually liked that they actually devolped Charmanders' old trainer and made him reocurring and actually made me wish he was more than a one off episode.

Outside of that...it was hit or miss. The voice acting wasn't really that good.

Everyone's Story/Power of Us:

Wow, much more better than I choose you and I haven't enjoyed a pokemon film in so long. Kind of a weird situation where if you didn't know that it was a sequel to I choose you, you wouldn't know it. Could be for better or worse.

Honestly the voice acting here was much better.

Actually, if Mewtwo Evolution is more Power of Us and less I Choose you, I honestly would feel kind of hype for it. Been enjoying this Satoshi then I have with the tv version since 3rd gen.

Also Lisa...possibly top Pokemon human waifu.