Marlboro to stop making cigarettes

*Andrew NDB* · 01-10-2019, 03:09 PM

https://wrno.iheart.com/content/2019...hXG7omL-Tej6yA

Whew. It's a good thing I switched to Camel 10 years ago!

~~BartAllen~~ · 01-10-2019, 03:23 PM

That's a sound marketing strategy for continued business.

*Candy Kappa* · 01-11-2019, 03:57 AM

I guess Phillip Morris image has gotten too tainted with their trigger-happy lawsuits against countries that use neutral tobacco packages and ban smoking in certain areas, like Uruguay, Australia and Norway. Now they try even harder to be seen as progressive, their 'Don't Be a Maybe' slogan was a hilarious attempt to reach young people.

Hopefully for smokers, Phillip Morris gets their new poison on shelves before the remaining stock runs out, cause people get real freaky when their cigs isn't in the store.

*Wildcat* · 01-11-2019, 04:13 AM

I’ve always found anti-smoking to be a huge waste of effort, as well intentioned as they are, because you only need to know 1 word when it comes to smoking...cancer.

If that’s not enough to keep a person from even trying it you’re the one risking your health. Obviously cigarettes should just be stopped altogether but no company can literally make you smoke.

I have never had the desire to smoke anything.

*Candy Kappa* · 01-11-2019, 04:30 AM

Not a fan of tobacco either, it reeks even when it's in it's packaging.

My dad quit smoking years ago when the prices went up, but 2 of my brothers are using tobacco, the oldest is using snus after succumbing to stress with exams and the other is using rolling tobacco like a old trucker

And since he lives in one of the most hillbilly-sh cities he could easily buy his own tobacco even though the was under-age, he recently turned 18 so now he can finally buy legally tobacco

~~BartAllen~~ · 01-11-2019, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I’ve always found anti-smoking to be a huge waste of effort, as well intentioned as they are, because you only need to know 1 word when it comes to smoking...cancer.

If that’s not enough to keep a person from even trying it you’re the one risking your health. Obviously cigarettes should just be stopped altogether but no company can literally make you smoke.

I have never had the desire to smoke anything.

I smoked a little when I was younger. Nicotine is damn addictive. What caused me to finally quit was when I noticed I had discolored fingers from holding the cigarette.

~~Leo656~~ · 01-11-2019, 04:42 AM

It took my aunt almost 20 years to die from emphysema. No thanks. Everybody thinks it's not gonna be a big deal, until it is. She went to her grave calling her kids stupid for not quitting. "But Mom, we're stressed out because you're so sick! That's why we smoke!". "Don't gimme that sh*t! YOU'RE stressed out?! Jesus! You're gonna be stressed out when YOUR dumb ass is lugging this thing around, I can tell ya that for nothin'!" (Shakes oxygen tank)

No bueno.

*Wildcat* · 01-11-2019, 04:48 AM

The smell is bad but that’s the least of it.

I have some family who smokes. They stopped I think but went back to it.

I just don’t see how smokers pretty much don’t care about the health risks. It’s not simple stuff like fatty foods or something. It’s incurable diseases.

*Candy Kappa* · 01-11-2019, 04:54 AM

My maternal grandpa died from lung cancer, he was also a mason so, y'know that probably didn't help either with little to no safety regulations back in the day. But smoking was at fault according to the doctor. Grandma still smokes, but I think she views it at useless to quit now as she's turning 80 this year.

~~Leo656~~ · 01-11-2019, 05:22 AM

If you have ever been at arm's length away from someone coughing up a black tar-like substance mixed with what may or may not be lung... It's a pretty good deterrent.

My mom died of other causes before her sister was diagnosed but they started showing symptoms around the same time. Sh*t's gross, I don't get it. Plus, addiction is slavery but that's a whole other thing.

*Wildcat* · 01-11-2019, 05:33 AM

I have family that died from cancer. Not from smoking. Other causes. Still even way before that I never felt like trying it.

We’ve probably all seen them but those old Flintstone smoking and drinking ads are hilarious. I understand it was a different time and the cartoon was meant for adult viewers but still.

I just read it wasn’t til the 40s and 50s that cigarettes were known for causing cancer. Even in the 60s some doctors didn’t acknowledge it. So I guess it was like a transition period of some believing it or thinking it wasn’t a big deal.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 01-11-2019, 05:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I have family that died from cancer. Not from smoking. Other causes. Still even way before that I never felt like trying it.

We’ve probably all seen them but those old Flintstone smoking and drinking ads are hilarious. I understand it was a different time and the cartoon was meant for adult viewers but still.

I just read it wasn’t til the 40s and 50s that cigarettes were known for causing cancer. Even in the 60s some doctors didn’t acknowledge it. So I guess it was like a transition period of some believing it or thinking it wasn’t a big deal.

The 1970's was the breakthrough for public awareness of this.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...n-tv-and-radio

(no April fool)

~~Leo656~~ · 01-11-2019, 05:41 AM

You'd have to figure on a lot of plain old obstinance and willful ignorance, too. People come up with any excuse not to take better care of themselves.

I've even encountered people who are dismissive of AIDS. Mostly because to them it's an abstract, they've never actually seen anyone go out like that. I have, it's f*cked up. But again, in my experience many people will shrug off anything if it makes them happy for this moment, no matter how serious it is.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 01-11-2019, 05:47 AM

I recall Lucky Luke often seen with a cigarette in his mouth in the cartoons and comics, later replaced with grass (not Cannabis).

*Wildcat* · 01-11-2019, 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Original TMNT Cartoon Fan

The 1970's was the breakthrough for public awareness of this.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-...n-tv-and-radio

(no April fool)

Oh. It’s kinda surprising that it took that long before people really took it seriously.

It’s not like cigarettes were useful in any way that could possibly be unhealthy. They’re just sticks of trash. They always have been.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 01-11-2019, 06:05 AM

Tobacco products were once (not many years ago) marketed during sports competitions

http://www.jotdown.es/wp-content/upl...-Dinamarca.jpg

*IndigoErth* · 01-11-2019, 10:37 AM

Interesting move from a cigarette company... But if you want to stay relevant and reinvent yourself ahead of an increasing decline in regular smoking, I guess it's a wise move to try to be ahead.

On the topic of health risks, yeah don't forget the increased risk of brain aneurysms for some.

My paternal grandmother died of one some months before I was born, and it was always assumed it was related to her smoking. Just assumed, but highly likely.

But now with an uncle (her youngest) having had a stroke just before Christmas (which he is recovering from very well luckily), it had in some way an odd silver lining because it led them to finding a small aneurysm in his brain, in the same area of his mother, around the same age she was (edit: and come to think of it she died of hers in December too, of '78), AND he's the only one of 7 siblings who has been a lifelong smoker. Gee, maybe it's dumb luck, or maybe smoking weakening the blood vessels really is in deed a factor. (Surprisingly they haven't fixed it yet, but will after he's done physical therapy.)

To add, I know a woman who survived one that did rupture. (Also a longtime smoker. Her father died of one too, but not sure if he smoked.) But given the permanent changes and issues relating to it ever since, I'm not sure surviving one is really all that much better than dying of it. (And given what she went through when it ruptured, that would be a terrible way to go.)

~~Leo656~~ · 01-11-2019, 10:45 AM

So long as they continue to produce sleeping and duffel bags, Marlboro should be just fine.

Maybe it's subliminal, but I swear those things always smell like cigarettes.

*DarkFell* · 01-11-2019, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leo656

Maybe it's subliminal, but I swear those things always smell like cigarettes.

It will always be subliminal. I mean, Marlboro could go on to make cat litter and even the insides of the litter bags might still smell like cigarettes.

*IndigoErth* · 01-11-2019, 11:01 AM

Surely those other items aren't produced in the same factory, right? Though if they were I could kind of understand it happening just thanks to the environment. Much like a smokers belongings in their home picking up that odor.

Then again... If they're manufactured in a foreign country like so much of that stuff is, maybe they send them plenty of "samples" for the workers to enjoy...

01-10-2019, 03:09 PM	#1
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,574	Marlboro to stop making cigarettes https://wrno.iheart.com/content/2019...hXG7omL-Tej6yA Whew. It's a good thing I switched to Camel 10 years ago! __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

01-11-2019, 03:57 AM	#3
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	I guess Phillip Morris image has gotten too tainted with their trigger-happy lawsuits against countries that use neutral tobacco packages and ban smoking in certain areas, like Uruguay, Australia and Norway. Now they try even harder to be seen as progressive, their 'Don't Be a Maybe' slogan was a hilarious attempt to reach young people. Hopefully for smokers, Phillip Morris gets their new poison on shelves before the remaining stock runs out, cause people get real freaky when their cigs isn't in the store. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

01-11-2019, 04:13 AM	#4
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	I’ve always found anti-smoking to be a huge waste of effort, as well intentioned as they are, because you only need to know 1 word when it comes to smoking...cancer. If that’s not enough to keep a person from even trying it you’re the one risking your health. Obviously cigarettes should just be stopped altogether but no company can literally make you smoke. I have never had the desire to smoke anything. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

01-11-2019, 04:30 AM	#5
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Not a fan of tobacco either, it reeks even when it's in it's packaging. My dad quit smoking years ago when the prices went up, but 2 of my brothers are using tobacco, the oldest is using snus after succumbing to stress with exams and the other is using rolling tobacco like a old trucker And since he lives in one of the most hillbilly-sh cities he could easily buy his own tobacco even though the was under-age, he recently turned 18 so now he can finally buy legally tobacco __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

01-11-2019, 04:48 AM	#8
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	The smell is bad but that’s the least of it. I have some family who smokes. They stopped I think but went back to it. I just don’t see how smokers pretty much don’t care about the health risks. It’s not simple stuff like fatty foods or something. It’s incurable diseases. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

01-10-2019, 03:23 PM	#2
~~BartAllen~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 922	That's a sound marketing strategy for continued business.

01-11-2019, 04:42 AM	#7
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	It took my aunt almost 20 years to die from emphysema. No thanks. Everybody thinks it's not gonna be a big deal, until it is. She went to her grave calling her kids stupid for not quitting. "But Mom, we're stressed out because you're so sick! That's why we smoke!". "Don't gimme that sh*t! YOU'RE stressed out?! Jesus! You're gonna be stressed out when YOUR dumb ass is lugging this thing around, I can tell ya that for nothin'!" (Shakes oxygen tank) No bueno.

01-11-2019, 04:54 AM	#9
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	My maternal grandpa died from lung cancer, he was also a mason so, y'know that probably didn't help either with little to no safety regulations back in the day. But smoking was at fault according to the doctor. Grandma still smokes, but I think she views it at useless to quit now as she's turning 80 this year. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

01-11-2019, 05:22 AM	#10
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	If you have ever been at arm's length away from someone coughing up a black tar-like substance mixed with what may or may not be lung... It's a pretty good deterrent. My mom died of other causes before her sister was diagnosed but they started showing symptoms around the same time. Sh*t's gross, I don't get it. Plus, addiction is slavery but that's a whole other thing.

01-11-2019, 05:33 AM	#11
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	I have family that died from cancer. Not from smoking. Other causes. Still even way before that I never felt like trying it. We’ve probably all seen them but those old Flintstone smoking and drinking ads are hilarious. I understand it was a different time and the cartoon was meant for adult viewers but still. I just read it wasn’t til the 40s and 50s that cigarettes were known for causing cancer. Even in the 60s some doctors didn’t acknowledge it. So I guess it was like a transition period of some believing it or thinking it wasn’t a big deal. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

01-11-2019, 05:41 AM	#13
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	You'd have to figure on a lot of plain old obstinance and willful ignorance, too. People come up with any excuse not to take better care of themselves. I've even encountered people who are dismissive of AIDS. Mostly because to them it's an abstract, they've never actually seen anyone go out like that. I have, it's f*cked up. But again, in my experience many people will shrug off anything if it makes them happy for this moment, no matter how serious it is.

01-11-2019, 05:47 AM	#14
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Lucky Luke I recall Lucky Luke often seen with a cigarette in his mouth in the cartoons and comics, later replaced with grass (not Cannabis).

01-11-2019, 06:05 AM	#16
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan Overlord Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Sweden Posts: 10,481	Tobacco Tobacco products were once (not many years ago) marketed during sports competitions http://www.jotdown.es/wp-content/upl...-Dinamarca.jpg

01-11-2019, 10:37 AM	#17
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	Interesting move from a cigarette company... But if you want to stay relevant and reinvent yourself ahead of an increasing decline in regular smoking, I guess it's a wise move to try to be ahead. On the topic of health risks, yeah don't forget the increased risk of brain aneurysms for some. My paternal grandmother died of one some months before I was born, and it was always assumed it was related to her smoking. Just assumed, but highly likely. But now with an uncle (her youngest) having had a stroke just before Christmas (which he is recovering from very well luckily), it had in some way an odd silver lining because it led them to finding a small aneurysm in his brain, in the same area of his mother, around the same age she was (edit: and come to think of it she died of hers in December too, of '78), AND he's the only one of 7 siblings who has been a lifelong smoker. Gee, maybe it's dumb luck, or maybe smoking weakening the blood vessels really is in deed a factor. (Surprisingly they haven't fixed it yet, but will after he's done physical therapy.) To add, I know a woman who survived one that did rupture. (Also a longtime smoker. Her father died of one too, but not sure if he smoked.) But given the permanent changes and issues relating to it ever since, I'm not sure surviving one is really all that much better than dying of it. (And given what she went through when it ruptured, that would be a terrible way to go.)

01-11-2019, 10:45 AM	#18
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	So long as they continue to produce sleeping and duffel bags, Marlboro should be just fine. Maybe it's subliminal, but I swear those things always smell like cigarettes.

01-11-2019, 11:01 AM	#20
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	Surely those other items aren't produced in the same factory, right? Though if they were I could kind of understand it happening just thanks to the environment. Much like a smokers belongings in their home picking up that odor. Then again... If they're manufactured in a foreign country like so much of that stuff is, maybe they send them plenty of "samples" for the workers to enjoy...