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Old 01-13-2019, 09:44 PM   #221
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Gross.

Vast minority, but I'm of the opinion that if this one tanks extremely bad and nobody ever tries again... We'll all be better off for it.

Best they quit now before they put Seth f*cking Rogen in one of these. Unpopular opinion? Sure. Absolutely correct? Yep. In 25 years we've had one good movie, one "eh" movie, and four pieces of junk. The odds of a TMNT movie coming out that's even watchable is... Pretty slim, just looking at it statistically.

I'm pretty sure that if nothing else, the same people who did the last two will not be the ones to right the ship. If there was a way, that ain't the way.
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Old 01-13-2019, 09:47 PM   #222
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Old 01-13-2019, 10:12 PM   #223
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Another ‘Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles’ Reboot to Start Production This Year

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Paramount Pictures is developing a new Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles reboot to start production later this year, again under producers Michael Bay, Andrew Form and Brad Fuller’s Platinum Dunes production company

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Old 01-13-2019, 11:49 PM   #224
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Well having a new writer or writers is a good sign imo (unless it was a direct sequel to the other 2 but it’s not, right?) Platinum Dunes or not the fact that it’s going in a new/different direction is good.

I’d just prefer it be some kind of new storyline instead of another origin or beginning. Either way it has to better than the previous 2. I’m glad another movie will get a shot.
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Old 01-13-2019, 11:57 PM   #225
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Watch them decide that the problem was the last two aimed for an audience that was "too old", so we end up with something like the Smurfs movie.

They're definitely not gonna tweak it the other direction. Seriously, if their next swing after the 2012 cartoon is "Rise"... I have no idea what they're gonna do as a follow-up to the BayTurtles flicks, but it's pretty fair to expect I'm not gonna like it.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:05 AM   #226
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I could live with a two hour version of the TMNT Honda commercial.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:42 AM   #227
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Watch them decide that the problem was the last two aimed for an audience that was "too old", so we end up with something like the Smurfs movie.

They're definitely not gonna tweak it the other direction. Seriously, if their next swing after the 2012 cartoon is "Rise"... I have no idea what they're gonna do as a follow-up to the BayTurtles flicks, but it's pretty fair to expect I'm not gonna like it.
The cartoon decisions are probably a separate thing but if they did happen to tone it down but it was more faithful to the characters you still would not like it?

I know a lot of people want a more adult version and I’d like to see that too but I can not really be mad if they actually made a solid and faithful representation. Even if it was more lighthearted.

The movie is bound to have fighting and action so don’t see how much more they could tone it down. PG. Wait you said 4 pieces of junk...you thought 2007 was bad?
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:48 AM   #228
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Watch them decide that the problem was the last two aimed for an audience that was "too old", so we end up with something like the Smurfs movie.

They're definitely not gonna tweak it the other direction. Seriously, if their next swing after the 2012 cartoon is "Rise"... I have no idea what they're gonna do as a follow-up to the BayTurtles flicks, but it's pretty fair to expect I'm not gonna like it.
Almost guaranteed they will "Address" the wrong things.
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Old 01-14-2019, 01:27 AM   #229
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Well we won't have to wait too long to see what they are doing at least. I'm going to hope that the target audience is all ages like the superhero movie and that they don't decide that the others flopped because they weren't young enough.
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Old 01-14-2019, 03:26 AM   #230
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I guess the release date will be 2021/22 if the production starts this year.
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Old 01-14-2019, 08:23 AM   #231
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Almost guaranteed they will "Address" the wrong things.
Probably need to cast a "person of color" April to get some relevancy buzz for the brand like the Rise cartoon did. And then somebody would claim they are "being more faithful to the source material."
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Old 01-14-2019, 10:42 AM   #232
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Which it isn't. People need to let that one go. It simply ain't true. Entire novels have been written about it already.

Wildcat: No, 2007 was "eh" and 1990 was the only good one. Everything else is junk. I think even X-Men have had a better track record. Part of why I don't particularly ever want to see a TMNT movie again is because Hollywood has spent 25 years proving that they have absolutely no idea how to make one. When people tell you who they are, it's a good idea to listen.

I've listened, and I've seen. No trust, no faith, no hope.
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Old 01-14-2019, 11:49 AM   #233
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:01 PM   #234
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The biggest obstacle to a successful TMNT at this point is apathy. The fact that after the last one many of us felt the movie series would be stalled for a long time so the confirmation they are making another one should be big news. The fact it's being handled by the same team that so badly botched the last two should have us melting down with nerd rage but there's hardly anything.

Basically one thread of conversation that's barely in double digits that basically can be summed up with "I guess it's happening and it kinda sucks". And we're supposed to be hardcore fans, outside this site there is zero interest in this. People have just lost interest in this property. Too much TMNT stuff in a short space of time and little of it actually good means that people have just stopped caring.

It's possible (if not at all probable) that Platinum Dunes actually get it right this time and make something halfway decent but it flops because people just don't give a crap anymore. Basically do a Bumblebee. I think TMNT needs to go away for a while and give people a chance to miss it.

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Watch them decide that the problem was the last two aimed for an audience that was "too old", so we end up with something like the Smurfs movie.

They're definitely not gonna tweak it the other direction. Seriously, if their next swing after the 2012 cartoon is "Rise"... I have no idea what they're gonna do as a follow-up to the BayTurtles flicks, but it's pretty fair to expect I'm not gonna like it.
Well if there is a slight smidgen of hope is that wasn't their natural instinct when they first got the property. Not that their original plans were remotely good even if they were not overly kiddie.

It has always been my belief that Rise Of...was originally developed to be an animated series in the vein of Out The Shadows with the expectation that movie would be a huge success. Then when it flopped they retooled it to be....something else but it still uses a lot of the Bay movie concepts. Heck the first episode of the show begins with the same way as OOTS. The fact the the show has also flopped it should be the final nail in the coffin for a lot of these concepts.

Not that I have much faith in whatever new ideas they come up with. They have shown a remarkable tendency to take on their mistakes but absolutely taking the wrong lessons from them.

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Probably need to cast a "person of color" April to get some relevancy buzz for the brand like the Rise cartoon did. And then somebody would claim they are "being more faithful to the source material."
Can we not with this.

Whatever your opinion of it Hollywood doesn't race bend characters for publicity, same when they whitewash characters which mostly goes unnoticed.

If it happens it happens and will not really make the movie any better or worse not that it is likely, After all this is the production company that thought Col. Shrader and Eric Sacks was a good idea then relented and made Shredder Asian in a manner which screamed "let's hope no one notices he's Japanese".

While April has never officially been Black in the comics apart from the one random non canon issue that was Eastman's original intent and let's not pretend he wasn't low key trying to draw her as such. Like there's tons of Mirage readers that thought she was Black or Hispanic. One of the weirder quirks of the Mirage series.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:22 PM   #235
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Since they are rebooting it. They should look at how well received the Bumblebee Movie was. And use that as the template for the TMNT Movie Reboot.

What this reboot needs is a lot of heart.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:39 PM   #236
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Since they are rebooting it. They should look at how well received the Bumblebee Movie was. And use that as the template for the TMNT Movie Reboot.

What this reboot needs is a lot of heart.
Isn't that movie underperforming? I'd love a soft re-boot of the PD movies a la bumble bee but if it isn't doing well it won't happen.

I think it's more likely we'll get a comedy oriented pixar/Disney like CG TMNT film than a movie anyone here wants to see.
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Isn't that movie underperforming? I'd love a soft re-boot of the PD movies a la bumble bee but if it isn't doing well it won't happen.

I think it's more likely we'll get a comedy oriented pixar/Disney like CG TMNT film than a movie anyone here wants to see.
The movie was well received critically and by the fans. As for it underperforming. I can blame that on people who feel burned by the previous Transformers movies. And not giving this one a chance.
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Old 01-14-2019, 12:51 PM   #238
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Admittedly, I had high hopes for the PD series - but having rewatched them recently, rose-colored, nostalgia glasses off, it's easy to see why they're so critically panned. For the few things they got right, they got so much more wrong.

I read an interview with the Producers where they said that they started writing the script for OOTS centered around the huge rainforest action sequence; they worked the story around that knowing they wanted that piece there. So basically they worked backwards, developing a story (?) to suit the action, not vice versa. They admitted that, and they still scratch their heads wondering what happened?

I was very happy to hear that a new TMNT film was in the works - any new project to keep the Turtles relevant usually starts off with my support; but this time is different. Im coming in with a crap-load of skepticism off the starting line, because they producers have shown that they dont understand the material. I hope they prove me wrong - but right now, I'd just love some no-name indie company to come in and do it right.
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The movie was well received critically and by the fans. As for it underperforming. I can blame that on people who feel burned by the previous Transformers movies. And not giving this one a chance.
And it also came out after Aquaman, Mary Poppins 2 and the animated Spiderman movie. So obviously a lot of people have run out of money after seeing those other movies and Christmas, So it definitely came out the wrong time. I wanted to go see Bumblebee movie but I just haven't had the time.
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Isn't that movie underperforming? I'd love a soft re-boot of the PD movies a la bumble bee but if it isn't doing well it won't happen.

I think it's more likely we'll get a comedy oriented pixar/Disney like CG TMNT film than a movie anyone here wants to see.
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