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Old 02-20-2019, 11:46 AM   #201
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Eh, and that's fine but it's like... as opposed to what? Is there "anti-woman" Marvel movies out there I'm unaware of?
Iron Man 1 and Iron Man 2 come to mind as examples that could be used. Because Tony's a lecherous dick.

Really, Marvel has a problem with not using the interesting female characters they already have, not some "anti-woman" problem. Which to some people, that'd just be semantics.

Scarlet Witch has barely gotten, what, 30 minutes of development across her three film appearances. Wasp is getting there. Black Widow's had decent development, but far from comic levels of interesting.

But then, we can easily use Hawkeye, Falcon, and War Machine as contrasting examples on the other side of the aisle.
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Old 02-21-2019, 08:40 PM   #202
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I think y'all are taking this "SJW political agenda" stuff too far. Sure, stuff might be said in interviews, and of course, your typical movie news sites will take the smallest thread and try to spin a giant story out of it, but nothing about the film's actual marketing (trailers, TV spots, etc.) says "blunt pandering to women" to me. I am excited about this film. Why?

- it's the bridge between Infinity War and Endgame

- I think the 90s setting is fun if not pushed on too hard. It'll be fun to see another MCU movie not set in modern day.

- Building off that point, all the stuff about SHIELD becoming the agency we met in Phase One sounds great to me, especially young Nick Fury.

- Carol Danvers was one of the few superheroes I wasn't introduced to by movies, having read her origin run from a while back. It's exciting to finally see her come to life on screen.

- Expansion of the Kree backstory from the bits and pieces in the first Guardians movie piques my curiosity.

- I'm interested in the split up backstory plot that the trailers seem to be showing. I liked those bits in Aquaman and hope they're even better here.

Now if that makes me a Disney shill, or a raging feminazi, or some political warrior, I don't care. People are excited for the first of twenty-one MCU films to have a female lead. I'm not going to get all up in arms about that. I'm just looking forward to a superhero movie that looks interesting and continues a franchise I enjoy, as is usually the plan.
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but nothing about the film's actual marketing (trailers, TV spots, etc.) says "blunt pandering to women" to me.
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That could appeal to fathers as well. Perhaps wanting to take their daughter to a movie. Have a role model or something like that. Instead of the Disney live action movies.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:29 PM   #205
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I'm mostly insulted by her wearing a NIN shirt as if it's genuine. Anybody who was alive in the early 1990s can tell you that girls didn't listen to NIN, and the ones who did generally weren't as... Well-groomed, let's say, as she is.

That bit feels too try-hard. A Nirvana or even Green Day shirt would be acceptable. But they probably just grabbed the first shirt they saw at the Hipster Store.
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:35 PM   #206
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I wonder if she prefers Pretty Hate Machine or Downward Spiral
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Old 02-21-2019, 10:43 PM   #207
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Or her favorite song!

She'd say, "The 'F*ck You Like An Animal' one." Like everyone else who A. Doesn't know the title, and B. Never heard any other NIN songs.

That hair of hers is freshly shampooed AND conditioned - probably hot oiled, too - her clothes are clean, and she has ZERO visible track marks. This woman has never listened to NIN in her entire f*cking life. That's a shoot, brother.
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Old 02-24-2019, 05:08 PM   #208
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I don't usually talk about Marvel stuff, but I feel that I need to state this.

People are already review-bombing this film ..., even though it hasn't been released yet.

Like, I know that the vast majority of people don't like social justice politics, but come on. It's absurd.

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Old 02-24-2019, 05:30 PM   #209
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Technically you can't "review bomb" something on Rotten Tomatoes before the movie is out, the score shown is the interest meter. Although 67% negative votes of over 34000 is something to behold. I do find it funny however that the movie is literally coming out next week and there still aren't any official reviews out yet.

Anyway, I don't really pay much attention to Brie. I know she tried to defend A Wrinkle in Time by saying it only got bad reviews because it "wasn't made for 40 year old white male critics". While that doesn't exactly make her charming, it isn't that far off from something any other actor would say. What did tick me off more about her was her "response" to Stan Lee's death, posting an image of herself looking bored and disinterested. That really made her seem like a sarcastic bitch to me, it's the little things. But like I said, I don't pay much attention to her, all I know is what spills over.
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Old 02-24-2019, 08:41 PM   #210
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The movie's probably fine. People generally just really don't like the "You better LOVE this movie or else you're obviously a ___________!" nonsense. No surprise that some people would get really defensive about it.

The way they choose to express themselves is bizarre to me, but eh. I don't pretend to understand nerds.
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I don't usually talk about Marvel stuff, but I feel that I need to state this.

People are already review-bombing this film ..., even though it hasn't been released yet.

Like, I know that the vast majority of people don't like social justice politics, but come on. It's absurd.
Hold on there young SJW(Joking )........ Neatoman is right there aren't even reviews yet

Apparently this movie is receiving record lows for interest/rating (Not Review) on rotten tomatoes which is saying something. I highly doubt this movie will be as bad as this score indicates, but maybe Marvel put out a bad movie????? I agree with Neatoman that is is strange they are holding back reviews with the movie coming out in 10 days, makes me wonder if the movie is actually just bad. I am still going to go see it regardless.


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Technically you can't "review bomb" something on Rotten Tomatoes before the movie is out, the score shown is the interest meter. Although 67% negative votes of over 34000 is something to behold. I do find it funny however that the movie is literally coming out next week and there still aren't any official reviews out yet.

Anyway, I don't really pay much attention to Brie. I know she tried to defend A Wrinkle in Time by saying it only got bad reviews because it "wasn't made for 40 year old white male critics". While that doesn't exactly make her charming, it isn't that far off from something any other actor would say. What did tick me off more about her was her "response" to Stan Lee's death, posting an image of herself looking bored and disinterested. That really made her seem like a sarcastic bitch to me, it's the little things. But like I said, I don't pay much attention to her, all I know is what spills over.
That is really messed up that she would do that after Stan's passing....
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It's got freaking Coulson in a big role? A digitally de-aged Jackson in an also big role, all throughout (they've said as much)? A 90s vibe? Kree stuff? Possibly even stuff that will payoff in Agents of SHIELD, which I love?

I mean, I'm already sold. I've been sold. My thing is not so much that the marketing department with the SJW campaign is going to ruin my enjoyment of it or even stop me from going to see it... it's just... I'm surprised that they think they even need that angle. It's like even now, in 2019, they're nervous and unsure it can truly stand on its own as a film.

They shouldn't. Knock it off. It'll be fine. Stop annoying people.
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To be fair, convincing people at large that women are awesome and not terrible is a Sisyphean task.
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By the way, the "want to see score" is now down to 28%. It's kind of bizarre to see so many people voice their intention to not buy a movie ticket. I understand it here, knowing the context, it's just very unusual.

Anyway, I'm off to not buy a boat now. Then I'll have the same opportunity to fish far out at sea, which I don't intend to do. With that fish i could have prepared some sashimi and pasted som fresh wasabi I won't any access to in the forseeable future. Ah, the things I could do but won't, it's what isn't the best in life.
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By the way, the "want to see score" is now down to 28%. It's kind of bizarre to see so many people voice their intention to not buy a movie ticket. I understand it here, knowing the context, it's just very unusual.
People can create multiple accounts.

Man, people can be so immature. Even after one of the SHAZAM! actors told them to stop, they still insist on doing it.
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People can create multiple accounts.
I guess but even if we assume the dislikes are inflated 3 times due to sock accounts, you'd still end up with a rough 50% here.
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By the way, the "want to see score" is now down to 28%. It's kind of bizarre to see so many people voice their intention to not buy a movie ticket. I understand it here, knowing the context, it's just very unusual.
People are weird. Like all the people on Facebook or whatever making it a point to post, "I have never watched an episode of Walking Dead!" Or "I have never seen Game of Thrones!"

Who cares?
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I wonder how the "Superhero Fatigue" crowd feels about this? If the low hype here is anything to go by, then Captain Marvel could be the first the first MCU movie to underperform since the Hulk.
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People are weird. Like all the people on Facebook or whatever making it a point to post, "I have never watched an episode of Walking Dead!" Or "I have never seen Game of Thrones!"

Who cares?
A very easy way to feel special: just say you don't like / don't watch something popular and voila!

I have never watched either show, since I am not fan of fantasy and zombies, but I won't brag about it like it's some kind of big deal.

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You get permission to roll your eyes at me when you've seen half of what I seen, Junior.

My disdain for the so-called "fairer sex" is no secret and never has been. I assume you somehow missed it.

Individually, one or two are okay. Collectively, they're terrible.
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