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03-07-2019, 01:26 PM
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Before that, maybe the novelty of the shared universe thing was still in full-effect and bandaging any rougher aspects that were appearing. I'm just spitballin, I don't know. I can't remember the reception to films such as Thor 2, Iron Man 2, or Incredible Hulk. Did critics eat those up? I feel sort of sadistic saying this, but as a big fan of the MCU, I'm glad to see them take a hit. That;s because I love so much of what they do, but I want to see them tighten up their weaknesses and be kept on their feet, creatively. |
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03-07-2019, 01:52 PM
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Is Disney really so desperate that they are monitoring live streams via third parties to silence opinions?
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03-07-2019, 02:38 PM
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I'm looking at old tweets of hers. Here's a gem:
https://twitter.com/brielarson/statu...to-stan-lee%2F The horror! Stay safe, Brie!
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03-07-2019, 02:49 PM
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Wow, she is really embracing this lifestyle, isn't she? She's on the attack...
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03-07-2019, 03:30 PM
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I'm leaving. Goodbye. :)
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Just ... leave her alone, guys.
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03-07-2019, 03:32 PM
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03-07-2019, 03:33 PM
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This ***** used to be Fun
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03-07-2019, 03:35 PM
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She's rich, she'll be fine.
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03-07-2019, 03:36 PM
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Whoops, sorry. Wrong persecuted Disney actress.
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03-07-2019, 07:50 PM
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03-07-2019, 08:03 PM
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03-07-2019, 08:07 PM
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Her politics isn't really all that different to RDJ's and Chris Evans, Mark Ruffalo and most of the main MCU actors. If it's not a problem for them. As something of aside why do you think Brie Larson will be the new face of Marvel and not Peter Parker or Black Panther or even Odinson if they make another Thor movie or someone else entirely? Is RDJ really the face of Marvel anyway? Sure Iron Man was the most popular but you could argue Captain America has kinda overtaken him and the whole point of the MCU anyway it's a big ensemble. |
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03-07-2019, 08:12 PM
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welp
https://cosmicbook.news/captain-marv...engers-unhappy A new rumor has landed online that echoes my own concerns about the Captain Marvel movie and Brie Larson, but this is claimed to be coming from on top -- as high as Disney CEO Bob Iger. The rumor claims that the Avengers cast, or certain members of the Avengers cast, is unhappy with Brie Larson being the face of the MCU going forward. It's said one particular actress - hinted at it being Elizabeth Olsen - feels that they are getting pushed aside, that they are getting treated differently. Film Gob on YouTube offers that Marvel is worried and that Disney CEO Bob Iger is unhappy with Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige, as Feige is the only who has been backing Brie Larson all this time. Iger is said to be "unhappy with the direction of Captain Marvel," and also "there is now an uncertainty about Captain Marvel's future in the MCU." The YouTuber further claims that Brie Larson and Captain Marvel could get killed off earlier than Larson's Marvel contract due to the potential fallout.
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03-07-2019, 08:18 PM
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03-07-2019, 08:20 PM
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That from a comicsgate pandering site that not long ago said that Disney was completely shutting down Marvel's publishing. The above is made up ******** by some youtuber. |
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03-07-2019, 08:35 PM
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 I am going to be like CK and probably just go see it just bc it will play a part in endgame and its a super-hero movie. Me being a TMNT fan my standards are not that high Don't judge me.
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03-07-2019, 08:48 PM
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I definitely can believe there's some resentment - Captain Marvel has been absent and not even mentioned (in-story) for ten years' worth of films, and NOW she's The Most Important Thing Ever and set to be the torch-bearer for the NEXT 5+ years worth of films, while everyone who already put in work to establish the franchise is either getting killed off or pushed into the background. And I can also believe that the producers are gobsmacked and probably at least a little bit nervous about the first batch of reviews being mixed. They obviously thought that they had "Wonder Woman On Steroids", and people surprisingly aren't reacting to it as expected.
One thing I will say, is that it's a good example of why working in an echo chamber isn't a good idea if you're producing commercial entertainment. Disney, as a rule, has always been the industry leader in "progressive" flag-waving, and clearly they figured that marketing this as an "important" movie and "anyone who isn't excited can Suck It" was the way to go. Now we're seeing that it's important to consider that not everyone shares the same values, or wants to be told they "have" to like something or else they're a _______. But in defense of Disney/Marvel, every single person in the room at those creative meetings thinks exactly the same, and they're openly dismissive of anyone who feels differently. Obviously, that goes a long way to explaining how tone-deaf the marketing - and their reaction to the fan backlash - has been. When you're sequestered away in an ivory tower with people who all agree with you, you lose touch with the "common rabble". But I don't think they're going to hit the panic button. They're committed to their plan and have made a ton of noise about it; it would be a humiliating setback if they had to scramble, and pushed Captain Marvel to "Just Another Character" after all the hype about her "taking over" so to speak. Although if they HAD to pivot to a new direction, it would be super easy; they have X-Men waiting in the wings, and a straight comics-inspired reboot of that is going to be the single easiest project that they undertake over the next few years. If they seriously can't proceed with the original plan, they could simply let the Avengers simmer for a couple of years and have the X-Men lead the MCU. They'd have to rush it a bit, but again, it won't be too hard to get that off the ground if they're forced to scramble. I don't think it'll come to that, though. I still expect this movie to make a lot of money, even if it's mostly from little girls and "casuals". They'll still stick to the original plan for the future of the MCU, but they'll probably not be so hostile with the marketing, and they'll probably have a stern talk with Brie Larson about her mouth as well. But I think the "sky is falling" stuff is overblown. |
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03-07-2019, 09:01 PM
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I'm pretty sure half of the questions related to Captain Marvel were for the DC "Shazam" one and not the Marvel version but she plays it off as if Captain Marvel is important or people care.
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03-07-2019, 09:19 PM
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Thing is the idea that Elizabeth Olson specifically feels pushed out seems weak when she's never been an important character in these movies to begin with.
She may or may not be dissatisfied with her role in the MCU (although I've never gotten that sense from the actress) but it couldn't have started with casting of Brie Olson. Most of the MCU majors are bowing out anyway and only seem interesting in guest appearances in future movies so I doubt they feel pushed out either. People tend to put way to much credence in what Feige says about captain Marvel. Of course he's going to hype her and the next wave as the second coming but honestly she isn't going to be the main character in Endgame or get the finishing blow against Thanos or whoever the bad guy ends up being. The movie is still going to make a ton of money (more than were predicting a few weeks ago when everyone was smugly gloating about the possibility of under performing) and it's at 80 something RT score which is objectively good and a better score than some movies that are considered great...even previous MCU ones. Incidentally the fact that reviewers are noticing flaws and it isn't at 100% on RT should actually do away with the stupid myth that all you have to do is make a movie "special" and the industry will hype it as the best thing ever. It wont because they are committed to the lie but it should. Not that this matters. The general audience tends to be more forgiving about movies than critics whose job it is to be critical and idiots on youtube ranting about how Disney wants to kill straight white men. It will make a ton of money and will generally be liked and they'll go see Endgame. Even if theoretically people walked up the aisle unimpressed they'd just retool the character. I personally have a soft spot for the Kenneth Branaugh Thor movie but it's fair to say it took them until Ragnarok to give us a good Thor movie. If the critics are correct none of the flaws are numerous or big enough that they couldn't be ironed out in the sequel or would require Ragnarok levels of change. Quote:
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