Classic Simpsons Episode Pulled From Rotation

*ZariusTwo* · 03-08-2019, 05:19 AM

"Stark Raving Dad" is being pulled from rotation following the airing of Leaving Neverland

https://www.nme.com/news/music/simps...ations-2459022

*neatoman* · 03-08-2019, 05:36 AM

Is it only pulled from airing on TV or will it still be on home releases?

*ZariusTwo* · 03-08-2019, 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by neatoman

Is it only pulled from airing on TV or will it still be on home releases?

It's been pulled from streaming too

*neatoman* · 03-08-2019, 06:56 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

It's been pulled from streaming too

Oh well, they've made DVDs of season 3 since 2003, so I guess it's not really a problem unless you wanted an HD master.

*snake* · 03-08-2019, 07:10 AM

Regardless of how you feel about the MJ situation, I think the biggest takeaway from all of this is the fraility of “digital media”. Think about it. All a company has to do to “kill” something is pull it. Have a “problematic” episode that you don’t want to be seen again? Pull the plug. Sometimes it doesn’t even take a reason to pull something. What if it’s lack of interest, or when a show is pulled from Netflix because of licensing contracts? What if there’s no physical release? Scary stuff, especially if you care about the preservation of media.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-08-2019, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by snake

Regardless of how you feel about the MJ situation, I think the biggest takeaway from all of this is the fraility of “digital media”. Think about it. All a company has to do to “kill” something is pull it. Have a “problematic” episode that you don’t want to be seen again? Pull the plug. Sometimes it doesn’t even take a reason to pull something. What if it’s lack of interest, or when a show is pulled from Netflix because of licensing contracts? What if there’s no physical release? Scary stuff, especially if you care about the preservation of media.

I agree.

In the oft-forgotten DC event "Armageddon 2001", there's a main subplot about people being arrested or even executed for possession of "Contraband Media". Books, discs, etc., anything the government has deemed "problematic" has been made illegal, and people are arrested or thrown into camps as "subversives" simply for owning things the government has decided that people shouldn't have access to. As a child, I found it quite chilling, but even then I could see that it was a future that wasn't very far away.

We're now heading there rapidly. That's always been the endgame of the All-Digital "revolution": Maximum information control, ergo Thought Control. And if you don't believe it, well... you're a fool.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-08-2019, 01:42 PM

The home releases will be affected

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The episode has been pulled from syndication and will no longer be included in physical retail copies of the third season

https://www.cbr.com/simpsons-michael...pisode-pulled/

*Andrew NDB* · 03-08-2019, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

In the oft-forgotten DC event "Armageddon 2001",

Monarch was a pimp.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-08-2019, 01:58 PM

Such a great villain, ruined by one of the very first "leaks". Shame. Great story otherwise. That was one of the best Summer Event cross-overs they've ever done.

Also, F*CKING GREAT, looks like I have to scramble to get the DVD box set for that season, now.

THANKS, crybabies, for making the decision that I shouldn't be allowed to own something because someone who was involved in it was accused of doing Bad Things that were never ultimately proven.

HEY, here's a thought: many pro athletes are CAUGHT and CONVICTED of rape, drug offenses, and violent crimes. Last I checked, you could still buy a Pac-Man Jones jersey without a problem.

WHY are we so selective in our moral outrage, Number 1, and Number 2, WHO gets to decide these things?

F*cking bullsh*t. Score One for the f*cking Thought Police. Thank GOD that they're here to protect us from ourselves. I'm sure Michael Jackson's guest spot on a cartoon show from 30 f*cking years ago is a supremely harmful in the here and now.

I know I've said this before, but Jesus, do I hate people.

*Candy Kappa* · 03-08-2019, 02:07 PM

If Disney and WB can release cartoons that are on the iffy side from the past with a simple disclaimer at the beginning of the showing, then everyone else can too.

If Birth of an Nation can be sold on Amazon in 4k, you can have a episode with MJ guest voicing, jeeezus on a pogo stick this is dumb.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-08-2019, 02:16 PM

Agreed.

I'm not at all a fan of policing content. It's up to the individual to decide for themselves if they Do or Do Not wish to peruse the content. Movies, music, TV, cartoons, sports, pornography, what-the-f*ck EVER... if you don't wanna look at it, walk away. But DON'T presume to decide for me and everyone else what I should be "allowed" to look at.

OJ Simpson murdered two people. I can go to FYE and buy the Naked Gun movies RIGHT NOW if I feel like it. This is relevant, because both OJ and MJ were found not guilty in a court of law, despite many people feeling they were guilty. Well, regardless of what we may think, they were acquitted in the eyes of the law, so it's a little late for the Moral Outrage NOW. And censorship, in EITHER case, is NOT a solution.

That Season 3 set is gonna f*cking skyrocket in price now.

It's already like $60 Used. I don't have time for this sh*t, damn it. F*cking liberals.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-08-2019, 02:19 PM

It IS a pretty horrific precedent, particularly as the industry pushes us into digital-only.

Like, let's say we're 5, 10 years from now, and now nobody's printing any more Blu-rays or DVDs or anything. You could be watching something, anything... like, Season 5, episode 3 of your favorite show. A month later, an actor in it went down for groping someone, or saying something bad on Twitter or whatever... now the studio can just remove that episode from existence, basically, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Leofan26 · 03-08-2019, 02:34 PM

I mean, I have the classic earlier episodes DVD so. Its only being pulled from places like Fox right?

Thank goodness Disney doesn't own Scooby rights, they could pull episodes for those shows or films they feel are too violent like Zombie Island : /

*snake* · 03-08-2019, 02:37 PM

That's scarier when you consider it's bound to happen to a digital-only show as more shows go that route. This is one of the reasons why I have no problem with pirating, because it's essentially media preservation, and when one of these streaming services inevitably fails, SOMEONE will still have the media available to host somewhere else.

The problem with pirating aside from legalities is mostly quality. There are some shows out there that either do not have HD rips or are almost impossible to find, because of either how niche they are or simply that they've never been uploaded anywhere before.

What we need to do is start bootleging blu-rays and dvds again using only the highest quality picture available for preservation purposes, especially for shows that don't have an official release or may not get one. A lot of western cartoons, for example, do not have official releases despite huge companies such as Disney owning them. Hell, the only way to view them at this point is piracy or illegal streaming.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-08-2019, 02:39 PM

Even Seseme Street puts up a disclaimer before showing footage of Kermit the Frog flipping off on Cookie Monster

~~Leo656~~ · 03-08-2019, 03:56 PM

This all started with R. Kelly. So are they gonna ban Space Jam?

With an expensive sequel in development, something tells me that I already know the answer to that question.

Nobody should be banning anything. This is stupid.

~~Sumac~~ · 03-08-2019, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by snake

That's scarier when you consider it's bound to happen to a digital-only show as more shows go that route. This is one of the reasons why I have no problem with pirating, because it's essentially media preservation, and when one of these streaming services inevitably fails, SOMEONE will still have the media available to host somewhere else.

The problem with pirating aside from legalities is mostly quality. There are some shows out there that either do not have HD rips or are almost impossible to find, because of either how niche they are or simply that they've never been uploaded anywhere before.

What we need to do is start bootleging blu-rays and dvds again using only the highest quality picture available for preservation purposes, especially for shows that don't have an official release or may not get one. A lot of western cartoons, for example, do not have official releases despite huge companies such as Disney owning them. Hell, the only way to view them at this point is piracy or illegal streaming.

This has already had happened with several digital-only video games.
They have been removed from storefronts and there is no legal opportunity to get them again.

Guess, pirates won't be without work for a long time, even in the new era.

**Jester** · 03-08-2019, 06:39 PM

I wonder how long before all episodes featuring Apu are pulled....

*Xav* · 03-08-2019, 06:59 PM

~~Leo656~~ · 03-08-2019, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I wonder how long before all episodes featuring Apu are pulled....

Only a matter of time.

Very often, people insist to me that society is NOT circling the drain, and that people are NOT getting dumber. This always gives me a very good idea about who has and has not actually gone the f*ck outside, talked to another human being face-to-face, or even bothered to look at the news recently. Because whenever the so-called "progressives" earn another yard, it sets everyone back by about 10, at least.

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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,561	It IS a pretty horrific precedent, particularly as the industry pushes us into digital-only. Like, let's say we're 5, 10 years from now, and now nobody's printing any more Blu-rays or DVDs or anything. You could be watching something, anything... like, Season 5, episode 3 of your favorite show. A month later, an actor in it went down for groping someone, or saying something bad on Twitter or whatever... now the studio can just remove that episode from existence, basically, and there's nothing you can do about it. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

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ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,501	Even Seseme Street puts up a disclaimer before showing footage of Kermit the Frog flipping off on Cookie Monster __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

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Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	I wonder how long before all episodes featuring Apu are pulled.... __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-08-2019, 07:10 AM	#5
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Regardless of how you feel about the MJ situation, I think the biggest takeaway from all of this is the fraility of “digital media”. Think about it. All a company has to do to “kill” something is pull it. Have a “problematic” episode that you don’t want to be seen again? Pull the plug. Sometimes it doesn’t even take a reason to pull something. What if it’s lack of interest, or when a show is pulled from Netflix because of licensing contracts? What if there’s no physical release? Scary stuff, especially if you care about the preservation of media.

03-08-2019, 01:58 PM	#9
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Such a great villain, ruined by one of the very first "leaks". Shame. Great story otherwise. That was one of the best Summer Event cross-overs they've ever done. Also, FCKING GREAT, looks like I have to scramble to get the DVD box set for that season, now. THANKS, crybabies, for making the decision that I shouldn't be allowed to own something because someone who was involved in it was accused of doing Bad Things that were never ultimately proven. HEY, here's a thought: many pro athletes are CAUGHT and CONVICTED of rape, drug offenses, and violent crimes. Last I checked, you could still buy a Pac-Man Jones jersey without a problem. WHY are we so selective in our moral outrage, Number 1, and Number 2, WHO gets to decide these things? Fcking bullsht. Score One for the fcking Thought Police. Thank GOD that they're here to protect us from ourselves. I'm sure Michael Jackson's guest spot on a cartoon show from 30 f*cking years ago is a supremely harmful in the here and now. I know I've said this before, but Jesus, do I hate people.

03-08-2019, 02:16 PM	#11
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Agreed. I'm not at all a fan of policing content. It's up to the individual to decide for themselves if they Do or Do Not wish to peruse the content. Movies, music, TV, cartoons, sports, pornography, what-the-fck EVER... if you don't wanna look at it, walk away. But DON'T presume to decide for me and everyone else what I should be "allowed" to look at. OJ Simpson murdered two people. I can go to FYE and buy the Naked Gun movies RIGHT NOW if I feel like it. This is relevant, because both OJ and MJ were found not guilty in a court of law, despite many people feeling they were guilty. Well, regardless of what we may think, they were acquitted in the eyes of the law, so it's a little late for the Moral Outrage NOW. And censorship, in EITHER case, is NOT a solution. That Season 3 set is gonna fcking skyrocket in price now. It's already like $60 Used. I don't have time for this sht, damn it. Fcking liberals.

03-08-2019, 02:34 PM	#13
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	I mean, I have the classic earlier episodes DVD so. Its only being pulled from places like Fox right? Thank goodness Disney doesn't own Scooby rights, they could pull episodes for those shows or films they feel are too violent like Zombie Island : /

03-08-2019, 02:37 PM	#14
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	That's scarier when you consider it's bound to happen to a digital-only show as more shows go that route. This is one of the reasons why I have no problem with pirating, because it's essentially media preservation, and when one of these streaming services inevitably fails, SOMEONE will still have the media available to host somewhere else. The problem with pirating aside from legalities is mostly quality. There are some shows out there that either do not have HD rips or are almost impossible to find, because of either how niche they are or simply that they've never been uploaded anywhere before. What we need to do is start bootleging blu-rays and dvds again using only the highest quality picture available for preservation purposes, especially for shows that don't have an official release or may not get one. A lot of western cartoons, for example, do not have official releases despite huge companies such as Disney owning them. Hell, the only way to view them at this point is piracy or illegal streaming.

03-08-2019, 03:56 PM	#16
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	This all started with R. Kelly. So are they gonna ban Space Jam? With an expensive sequel in development, something tells me that I already know the answer to that question. Nobody should be banning anything. This is stupid.

03-08-2019, 06:59 PM	#19
Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,045