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Old 03-08-2019, 12:08 PM   #501
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I almost feel sorry for Alita....it's not being unjustly called "Alt Right" and "Incel Approved" all because the battle cry of people no longer interested in Captain Marvel is that they are planning on seeing it instead.
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Old 03-08-2019, 12:17 PM   #502
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The Walkers didn't like it either.
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Old 03-08-2019, 12:38 PM   #503
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again kind of ironic they release Captain Marvel today which is international women's day 🤔
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Old 03-08-2019, 12:44 PM   #504
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again kind of ironic they release Captain Marvel today which is international women's day 🤔
You think that was a coincidence?
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Old 03-08-2019, 12:56 PM   #505
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I'm sure the porn parody that comes out afterwards will be amazing!
I get the feeling that such a thing would be one of those all-girl flicks.

I was at a message board where people thus far were saying they liked it, and they were all guys. I'd still like to check it out, but I was still concerned that I might be subject to a bunch of SJW business and male-bashing. Someone just told me that if I can handle Black Panther, then I can handle Captain Marvel. I guess that remains to be seen.
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:06 PM   #506
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I get the feeling that such a thing would be one of those all-girl flicks.

I was at a message board where people thus far were saying they liked it
I don't see why guys shouldn't like, it's more a blokes film than one for girls and it has blokes in it.

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Old 03-08-2019, 01:55 PM   #507
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I'm pretty sure Batman v Super-man was a financial success despite it being mediocre/bad.

This movie looks like it is going to be a financial success. So essentially this movie is going to be the Batman v Superman of the MCU
It was one of the Top 20 Highest-Selling Blu-Rays of all time upon its physical release, and even now (last I bothered to check) was still in the Top 50. Which as I've pointed out, illustrates that lots of people liked it just fine, they just don't like to talk about it out loud because they don't care for being yelled at or called names.

I do agree that Captain Marvel should go on to make a lot of money in spite of the mixed reviews. People don't skip Marvel movies, and they only pay attention to critics when they agree with them, otherwise "they're all idiots". But in that regard, yes, it's similar to BvS in that people will go see it regardless of reviews, and they'll probably still buy the disc as well.

As I've said before, I just find it very strange that this is the first MCU movie that a lot of people actually noticed wasn't very good, because they've done plenty that weren't very good. It's kind of unfortunate, because any genuine criticism is being shouted down amidst the "woman-hating trolls" defense, when in truth, it just sounds like they whiffed.

It would be very nice if people could set politics aside when discussing these things. BUT, to be fair, Disney/Marvel set themselves up for it by openly positioning this film as a political statement in the first place. Wonder Woman COULD have been political, or man-bashing, but it wasn't. It was an extremely even-handed film that wasn't preachy nor condescending, and people liked it. This stuff really shouldn't be so difficult. But as we've seen with "The Last Jedi" and now this movie, if you stick your neck out, someone may take a swipe and you may need to suffer the consequences.

I still expect it to do fine, though. It would just be nice if people were allowed to discuss it without all the political finger-pointing and assumption of ulterior motives.
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I skimmed over a... version of the movie and can confirm the "I'm Just a Girl" fight scene.
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I skimmed over a... version of the movie and can confirm the "I'm Just a Girl" fight scene.
I would recommend "a version" over this movie if you actually want to see it, because it isn't really worth it otherwise.
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I don't think that scene was meant to be a secret, it was reported on in many of the reviews.

Part of why I dislike Marvel movies is that their "humor" isn't just "on the nose", they smash you square in the face with a bat.
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I don't see why guys shouldn't like, it's more a blokes film than one for girls and it has blokes in it.
Of course. I was just thinking about how there was nonsense spouted out about how guys won't like it since it's "not for them". I might enjoy it too, although there are even women who didn't.
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Of course. I was just thinking about how there was nonsense spouted out about how guys won't like it since it's "not for them". I might enjoy it too, although there are even women who didn't.
Yeah, total nonsense born out of insecurity. Anyone reading Marvel's intent is to be as noninclusive as possible is really looking to tether their cause to the film without actually checking it out.

Like I said, the usual boys action film with females front and centre. Up to you if you think that's a deal breaker.
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I don't see why guys shouldn't like, it's more a blokes film than one for girls and it has blokes in it.
I'd hardly call it a blokes film as it is just a film for Cyberpunk lover, granted I suppose you get the obligated "Blokes" because there really hasn't been a "Cyberpunk for girls"
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I'd hardly call it a blokes film as it is just a film for Cyberpunk lover, granted I suppose you get the obligated "Blokes" because there really hasn't been a "Cyberpunk for girls"
Are you talking about Alita? Because I'm pretty sure I'm not.
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'Captain Marvel': Rotten Tomatoes Purges Over 50,000 Reviews After Review Bombing
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is it really review bombing, or are people just not happy with this movie?

I see that positive spam bots are fine
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is it really review bombing, or are people just not happy with this movie?

I see that positive spam bots are fine
If the mods here can check the IP address for Goku's 1823738237th account, I'm sure RT can discern bots from people
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Yeah, total nonsense born out of insecurity. Anyone reading Marvel's intent is to be as noninclusive as possible is really looking to tether their cause to the film without actually checking it out.

Like I said, the usual boys action film with females front and centre. Up to you if you think that's a deal breaker.
If it were a dealbreaker for me, I wouldn't bother checking it out, and I've already said that I'm game.

I've even seen women express their displeasure, since they also believe that a female protagonist can just do their thing without being condescending towards males. They don't believe in achieving female empowerment by such means, and don't think they need a female protagonist to make them feel validated, for they can relate to a character in certain ways even if it's a guy.
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I've even seen women express their displeasure, since they also believe that a female protagonist can just do their thing without being condescending towards males.
I guess they must have watched Wonder Woman.

My wife and I were just last night discussing how that movie was a lot more even-handed than it had any right to be. I'm pretty sure that has a lot to do with how it was received.
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Just ... leave her alone, guys.

Seriously. It's not that serious.
So what will happen if people on this forum won't leave her alone?

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By the power of sexist trolls ...

Captain Marvel will never experience a drop; it will spring forward forever.
Everyone are sexist trolls!!
No exception!!

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