Star Trek: Discovery

[Andrew NDB]

The Red Angel...

Spoiler:

Of all the possible candidates that would have made for something somewhat interesting, whether it was someone from TNG's time or even Mirror Universe Michael (which I thought for sure it would be)... they make it the least possible and most dumb person ever. Michael's mom. Basically mommy didn't like her daughter dead, so she used a Section 31 suit to time travel to save her. Which also means she always would have done that, I guess, so this means this isn't a splinter timeline. Exactly.

And yeah. Section 31 patented actual time travel suits in the 23rd century.

[Jester]

Good god, this show is ridiculous....Michael Burnham is probably the most self involved Trek character in recent memory...only Quark might be more about himself, but he's a freakin Ferengi.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

The Red Angel...

Spoiler:

Of all the possible candidates that would have made for something somewhat interesting, whether it was someone from TNG's time or even Mirror Universe Michael (which I thought for sure it would be)... they make it the least possible and most dumb person ever. Michael's mom. Basically mommy didn't like her daughter dead, so she used a Section 31 suit to time travel to save her. Which also means she always would have done that, I guess, so this means this isn't a splinter timeline. Exactly.

And yeah. Section 31 patented actual time travel suits in the 23rd century.

Not surprised, really. Seemed to be where it was going. Ugh.

Originally Posted by Jester

Good god, this show is ridiculous....Michael Burnham is probably the most self involved Trek character in recent memory...only Quark might be more about himself, but he's a freakin Ferengi.

So it's not just me? Burnham is the worst. The absolute worst.

[Andrew NDB]

I can't stand her. There isn't one thing coming out of her mouth that isn't overly dramatic.

Also how nice that the latest episode made sure and take time out for lengthy and in depth speeches about pansexuality and gender identity... what the show is really interested in talking about, as opposed to strange new worlds.

[Vegita-San]

exactly what I feared a modern star trek show would be about in this 'woke' era.
oy...... now that moonves is gone, you'd think they'd cancel it. he got it off the ground.

[Jester]

Has anyone noticed the trope joked about in Futurama, where technobabble is translated by a simple analogy, has been turned up to 11 in this season?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Jester

Has anyone noticed the trope joked about in Futurama, where technobabble is translated by a simple analogy, has been turned up to 11 in this season?

You mean the "Time Crystal"?

[Andrew NDB]

Oh jesus... I had a feeling they were going to do it earlier in the season, but after this episode it seems abundantly clear:

Spoiler:

This season of STD is giving us the direct origin of the Borg. Even though the Borg Queen said there was Borg in the 21st century and that would make no sense.

Guaranteed this season ends with "Command" getting enough info from the Sphere to evolve into the Borg Queen, just before Discovery finds some way to send it to the Delta Quadrant.

They're going down a checklist of things "edgy" in Trek. Klingon Wars, Section 31, the Borg, etc..

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh jesus... I had a feeling they were going to do it earlier in the season, but after this episode it seems abundantly clear:

Spoiler:

This season of STD is giving us the direct origin of the Borg. Even though the Borg Queen said there was Borg in the 21st century and that would make no sense.

Guaranteed this season ends with "Command" getting enough info from the Sphere to evolve into the Borg Queen, just before Discovery finds some way to send it to the Delta Quadrant.

They're going down a checklist of things "edgy" in Trek. Klingon Wars, Section 31, the Borg, etc..

Dammit, I was hoping they wouldn't do this. UGH.

[Jester]

Which totally screws up cannon, as the Borg exist in the 21st century according to First Contact.

Also: Spock Likes Science.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Jester

Which totally screws up cannon, as the Borg exist in the 21st century according to First Contact.

Spoiler:

Yeah, that's what I was saying. And they could say, "Oh, it was just a throwaway line in the movie," but it wasn't. It was the driving motive behind EVERYTHING the Borg did in the movie. Their plan was literally to hijack the deflector dish on the Enterprise-E and use it to communicate with the Borg of the 21st century -- everything they did in the movie after the beginning was to this purpose. We know this because the movie tells us this. And if there were no Borg yet in the 21st century, there would be no one for them to try and communicate with.

I mean, technically they could find a way to throw the Borg Queen at the end of this season to the Delta Quadrant... IN the 21st century, or at some point in the past before that. THAT could work. But given Kurtzman's disposition to openly regard canon below the story (even though the story always SUCKS!) I wholly expect him to be made aware of that by others, but completely disregard it anyway.

I also read somewhere that there was even Borg activity in the 13th century in some Voyager episode? Does anyone remember that?

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Spoiler:

Guaranteed this season ends with "Command" getting enough info from the Sphere to evolve into the Borg Queen, just before Discovery finds some way to send it to the Delta Quadrant.

Something quite major seems to be planned for the end of season 2.
https://www.trektoday.com/content/20...ge-everything/

Buckle up, Discovery fans – the Star Trek: Discovery actors are promising an unexpected ending. Plus: Fan reactions to the show have been noted.

Speaking with TrekCore at last weekend’s PaleyFest, some of the Discovery actors spoke about what is yet to come.

“I personally think that the end of the season is going to be tremendous,” said Ethan Peck. “When [Kurtzman] first told me about it I was like in tears. I just had chills.”

“As I read the final script for Season 2, my jaw dropped, and I’m dumbfounded with where we’re headed,” said Doug Jones. “So I think the fans can expect to boldly go where no Star Trek series has ever gone before.”

“Expect the unexpected, is what my mother always says; and it couldn’t be more true, especially on this season, cause it’ll change everything,” said Wilson Cruz. Cruz also added that Hugh Culber’s readjusting to life will continue in the third season.

“I think that the last few episodes will really close the circle for people,” said Anthony Rapp. “If we’ve done our job, what was on the page…in the scripts, closes the circle. It answers the questions that are lingering and remaining for people of how we fit in. And I believe very strongly that it will leave people satisfied.

“As someone who cares about continuity, to some degree, I was like, ‘If this doesn’t make people happy, I don’t know what else we can do.'”

SyFy Wire also reported on PaleyFest and they quoted Alex Kurtzman regarding online fan commentary on the series. “We are entirely aware of everyone’s questions and criticisms,” he said. “I’ve read everything, and I see where everyone’s like, ‘Well, the spore drive never existed!’ and ‘What, Discovery was never around!’ and all of those things; we’re totally aware. You will get an answer.”

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I also read somewhere that there was even Borg activity in the 13th century in some Voyager episode? Does anyone remember that?

Yes, the episode "Dragon's Teeth" - By the 24th century, the Borg have been around for at least 900 years.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki...Teeth_(episode)

[Andrew NDB]

Oh god... the season finale...

Spoiler:

It goes right into the big battle... and it's just like the battle in the beginning of "Revenge of the Sith." Enterprise and Discovery LITERALLY have hundreds of starfighters -- yes, single-manned STARFIGHTERS that look like a cross between little TIE-Fighters and the squid ship from Star Trek 2009 -- inside that they can deploy. Also, astromech-like droids that can go outside and repair damage to the hull, just like Star Wars. I-I... I can't. There are no words.

The good news is that Discovery is -- apparently -- permanently 950 years into the future. Permanently. They tidied up its place in the history books at the end of this episode.

[Leo656]

I recently picked up the Star Trek animated series on DVD. Based on my fuzzy childhood memories, it honestly sounds like it has a lot more to do with Star Trek than anything Star Trek has done in the last 15 years, but especially this show.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh god... the season finale...

Spoiler:

It goes right into the big battle... and it's just like the battle in the beginning of "Revenge of the Sith." Enterprise and Discovery LITERALLY have hundreds of starfighters -- yes, single-manned STARFIGHTERS that look like a cross between little TIE-Fighters and the squid ship from Star Trek 2009 -- inside that they can deploy. Also, astromech-like droids that can go outside and repair damage to the hull, just like Star Wars. I-I... I can't. There are no words.

The good news is that Discovery is -- apparently -- permanently 950 years into the future. Permanently. They tidied up its place in the history books at the end of this episode.

Yeah, the time jump has been my prediction ever since the Short Trek in question.

Not sure how I feel about it. On the one hand, I'm glad the Discovery will stop mucking about in prequel territory, reinventing Klingons and doing really stupid crap.

On the other hand, I'm worried that the powers that be will make a TON of idiotic decisions about the future and everything that took place in the last 950 years. But on the other other hand, I'm also excited to finally see some future Trek.

Originally Posted by Leo656

I recently picked up the Star Trek animated series on DVD. Based on my fuzzy childhood memories, it honestly sounds like it has a lot more to do with Star Trek than anything Star Trek has done in the last 15 years, but especially this show.

That show was underrated. Cheap production, some episodes are silly, but it was truly Star Trek's fourth season. They played their $hit mostly straight.

[Jester]

Spoiler:

Good to se I want alone in my loathing of Enterprise's astro mechs....sigh

[Stephen]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Oh god... the season finale...

Spoiler:

The good news is that Discovery is -- apparently -- permanently 950 years into the future. Permanently.

Spoiler:

Which then raises the question of how the Section 31 series is going to work if Georgiou has also ended up in the future

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Stephen

Spoiler:

Which then raises the question of how the Section 31 series is going to work if Georgiou has also ended up in the future

Maybe they send her back in the suit, thus sealing up their only way home and cementing them in the 33rd century or whatever.

Great article:

https://medium.com/@thejohnprice/the...jqHwq7lsJUNs7g

[ZariusTwo]

CBS Consumer Products EVP Veronica Hart has been named the EVP of Star Trek Global Franchise Management

https://deadline.com/2019/05/star-tr...ns-1202608011/