Sonic the Hedgehog Live-Action/CGI Movie Targeting 2020 Release Date

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by sdp

I'm excited, I think this movie will outdo Detective Pikachu.

Not a chance in hell, man.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Originally Posted by sdp

I'm excited, I think this movie will outdo Detective Pikachu.

For how terrible it'll be, of course it will

[Coola Yagami]

lmao I love how you all keep taking the bait. Keep feeding the trolls and watering the plants.

[sdp]

I'm not trollllin', unlike detective pikachu sonic has 2 weeks without much competition and I don't think Frozen 2 will take much out of it, different audience, unlike Detective Pikachu it only has to deal with the aftermath of Terminator 6 which I doubt will create much of a problem. Sonic is just coming out at a better time to make money, Detective Pikachu came out at the worst time, I'm not saying Sonic will be more entertaining, just that it could outdo Detective Pikachu in terms of money or at the very least in profitability.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by sdp

I'm not saying Sonic will be more entertaining, just that it could outdo Detective Pikachu in terms of money or at the very least in profitability.

You're talking about preforming better at box office. For the most part, I doubt it. I mean it all depends if they can put out a better trailer and show how well Sonic's redesign looks. It'll probably be pushed back in its release date though.

[sdp]

I'm always incorrect about B.O. so you're probably right, I guess I try to use my analytical knowledge to an industry where it has different rules. If less money is spent on marketing and there's less competition I think it can outdo Det. Pikachu but I might be very wrong. I still think it'll be a fun enough movie even if nothing amazing, no trolling there either.

[oldmanwinters]

Boy, I just now noticed the tags for this thread. That is some gross and savage stuff.

[Sobble]

I dont think the sonic movies gonna make more money the detective Pikachu

It's Pokemon it's gonna make tons with kids none the less

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by sdp

I'm not saying Sonic will be more entertaining, just that it could outdo Detective Pikachu in terms of money or at the very least in profitability.

Again, not a chance in hell of that happening. For starters, Pokemon is literally THE highest grossing franchise on the planet. Not to mention Detective Pikachu had a great first trailer that showed the studio was sticking to the source material and made most of the naysayers give it a chance.

Sonic is in the exact opposite position right now on both fronts.

[Sobble]

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Again, not a chance in hell of that happening. For starters, Pokemon is literally THE highest grossing franchise on the planet. Not to mention Detective Pikachu had a great first trailer that showed the studio was sticking to the source material and made most of the naysayers give it a chance.

Sonic is in the exact opposite position right now on both fronts.

And to back up your claim about Pokemon being the highest grossing franchise

According to wikapedia its total revenue is an est. $90 billion

[Leo656]

I still find that incredible. I can't get my head around it.

I have nothing against Pokémon, it's just entirely not my thing. But I vividly remember reading about it in the magazines when it was new, and I was like, "Yeah, just another fad." Not in a billion years did I ever expect that it would still be going strong 25 years later, let alone being the Biggest Thing Ever.

Y'know how whenever a new Star Wars movie comes out, and someone on CNN or something does an editorial piece like, "This thing is about to smash all kinds of records, and I have no idea why, can anyone explain it to me?". That's exactly how I am with Pokémon. I don't root against it, I just completely don't get it.

[CyberCubed]

Pokemon is also a Nintendo franchise and given they kept Mario/Zelda, etc. going since the 80's it's obvious Pokemon would be the same. The only difference is Pokemon is much bigger with anime, manga, toys, merch, etc. that it dwarfs everything.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by Sobble

I dont think the sonic movies gonna make more money the detective Pikachu

It's Pokemon it's gonna make tons with kids none the less

And to back up your claim about Pokemon being the highest grossing franchise

According to wikapedia its total revenue is an est. $90 billion

Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Again, not a chance in hell of that happening. For starters, Pokemon is literally THE highest grossing franchise on the planet. Not to mention Detective Pikachu had a great first trailer that showed the studio was sticking to the source material and made most of the naysayers give it a chance.

Sonic is in the exact opposite position right now on both fronts.

Those wikipedia numbers aren't correct, Pokemon isn't the highest grossing franchise in the world as many have quoted for the past few months, it's already been debunked. I'm not saying it's not super popular or a big contender but those numbers don't mean a great Box Office as we've already seen, the movie is not doing that great, especially with how much they spent on marketing. I mean I wanted the movie to do great but it hasn't, it's not a bomb but not a huge success. I can see Sonic having a smaller budget in general and having more profit overall.

Originally Posted by Leo656

I was like, "Yeah, just another fad." Not in a billion years did I ever expect that it would still be going strong 25 years later, let alone being the Biggest Thing Ever.

Well I mean it was indeed another fad and Pokemon died for many years, I remember getting tons of Gen1/2 items on clearance for like ten cents in the early 00s. The games still sold but overall it took the franchise all of the decade of the 00's to really recover. It was more of when the kids who grew up with Gen 1 became adults and got nostalgic that it suddenly became cool to like Pokemon again and now everyone loves pokemon again but yeah, the real hardcore fans were there in the 00's when no one cared.

[Papenbrook]

Like I said, zero dollars.

[The Deadman]

Troll harder

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by sdp

Those wikipedia numbers aren't correct, Pokemon isn't the highest grossing franchise in the world as many have quoted for the past few months, it's already been debunked. I'm not saying it's not super popular or a big contender but those numbers don't mean a great Box Office as we've already seen, the movie is not doing that great, especially with how much they spent on marketing. I mean I wanted the movie to do great but it hasn't, it's not a bomb but not a huge success. I can see Sonic having a smaller budget in general and having more profit overall.

Well I mean it was indeed another fad and Pokemon died for many years, I remember getting tons of Gen1/2 items on clearance for like ten cents in the early 00s. The games still sold but overall it took the franchise all of the decade of the 00's to really recover. It was more of when the kids who grew up with Gen 1 became adults and got nostalgic that it suddenly became cool to like Pokemon again and now everyone loves pokemon again but yeah, the real hardcore fans were there in the 00's when no one cared.

Wrong. Just a quick Google search on top ten most profitable franchises shows Pokemon is #1. In the double-digit BILLIONS. It has had a few slumps, but anytime a new version of the video games comes out, or a new generation of creatures is introduced in the card game, or new movies or seasons of the animated series are released, it harvests another crop of fans both new and old. Pomemon is known and recognuzed worldwide, by people of all ages. Sonic- isn't. Sonic has had a few minor hits in video games, and a small but steady following in tv and comics, but that's about it. Pokemon is literally the biggest money-making franchise in the WORLD. It is not a "fad" and hasn't been JUST a fad for years. It has become legitimately the biigest franchise ever, even bigger than Star Wars. It doesn't even take much effort to find the numbers on that.

Sreen Rant, Comic Book, Geek Tyrant, and Wikipedia are ALL in agreement- Pokemon IS the highest grossing media franchise worldwide.

[Prowler]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I still find that incredible. I can't get my head around it.

I have nothing against Pokémon, it's just entirely not my thing. But I vividly remember reading about it in the magazines when it was new, and I was like, "Yeah, just another fad." Not in a billion years did I ever expect that it would still be going strong 25 years later, let alone being the Biggest Thing Ever.

Y'know how whenever a new Star Wars movie comes out, and someone on CNN or something does an editorial piece like, "This thing is about to smash all kinds of records, and I have no idea why, can anyone explain it to me?". That's exactly how I am with Pokémon. I don't root against it, I just completely don't get it.

I feel the same way about games like League of Legends. I thought it was gonna be a fad for like a year or two... and yet tons of people still play it and doesn't seem like it's gonna die anytime soon.

And in 1997 I've never thought Mario Kart would become such a big juggernaut either.

[Papenbrook]

Bottom-line, I admire some of your optimism, dsp, but I still heavily doubt that this movie will make even a tenth of DP's box-fice. ( So, you should err on the side of caution. )

[Sobble]

I know this isn't related but remember the Pokemon go craze of 2016

[sdp]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Wrong. Just a quick Google search on top ten most profitable franchises shows Pokemon is #1. In the double-digit BILLIONS. It has had a few slumps, but anytime a new version of the video games comes out, or a new generation of creatures is introduced in the card game, or new movies or seasons of the animated series are released, it harvests another crop of fans both new and old. Pomemon is known and recognuzed worldwide, by people of all ages. Sonic- isn't. Sonic has had a few minor hits in video games, and a small but steady following in tv and comics, but that's about it. Pokemon is literally the biggest money-making franchise in the WORLD. It is not a "fad" and hasn't been JUST a fad for years. It has become legitimately the biigest franchise ever, even bigger than Star Wars. It doesn't even take much effort to find the numbers on that.

Sreen Rant, Comic Book, Geek Tyrant, and Wikipedia are ALL in agreement- Pokemon IS the highest grossing media franchise worldwide.

I can't google right now but look into it, it's been debunked already the list most sites quote and the easy search results on google all use the same shady source.

I know very well how big Pokemon is, hell I even worked for the TCG division for a few years. It was most definitely a fad, the fad most definitely died in 2001 and pokemon for the most part was dormant, it still made plenty of money, especially on video games but it wasn't what it once was. The craze of liking Pokemon as adults again began around the time when XY came out in Gen 6 even if it had been slowly building over time. By the time Pokemon Go we had another fad which also died, doesn't mean plenty of people don't still play Go.

Originally Posted by Papenbrook

Bottom-line, I admire some of your optimism, dsp, but I still heavily doubt that this movie will make even a tenth of DP's box-fice. ( So, you should err on the side of caution. )

All I'm saying Sonic has really young fans and obsessive fans, if it hits the right notes with the young fans then it'll be a hit. Alvin and the Chipmunks and the Smurfs had successes despite looking horrible. The budget of DPikachu is a lot higher than Sonic's.