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Old 05-23-2019, 06:30 PM   #841
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Also can we note that Pikachu is one of the most iconic anime characters along with sailor moon and Goku
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:54 PM   #842
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I know very well how big Pokemon is, hell I even worked for the TCG division for a few years. It was most definitely a fad, the fad most definitely died in 2001 and pokemon for the most part was dormant, it still made plenty of money, especially on video games but it wasn't what it once was. The craze of liking Pokemon as adults again began around the time when XY came out in Gen 6 even if it had been slowly building over time. By the time Pokemon Go we had another fad which also died, doesn't mean plenty of people don't still play Go.
You "most definitely" don't know what a fad is.
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:57 PM   #843
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I can't google right now but look into it, it's been debunked already the list most sites quote and the easy search results on google all use the same shady source.

I know very well how big Pokemon is, hell I even worked for the TCG division for a few years. It was most definitely a fad, the fad most definitely died in 2001 and pokemon for the most part was dormant, it still made plenty of money, especially on video games but it wasn't what it once was. The craze of liking Pokemon as adults again began around the time when XY came out in Gen 6 even if it had been slowly building over time. By the time Pokemon Go we had another fad which also died, doesn't mean plenty of people don't still play Go.

All I'm saying Sonic has really young fans and obsessive fans, if it hits the right notes with the young fans then it'll be a hit. Alvin and the Chipmunks and the Smurfs had successes despite looking horrible. The budget of DPikachu is a lot higher than Sonic's.

Sonic doesn't have nearly as many fans as Pokemon, though. It'll be lucky if it even breaks even, given how bad word of mouth has been, plus the bad reaction to the early trailers/designs, and its relatively niche market. It literally has three strike against it already, even if it turns out to be decent, which is not looking too promising. For that matter, the history of video game movies in general is a pretty big hurdle, to boot. Sonic will fall flat at the starting line, make no mistake. Optimistically, the best it can hope for is to make back the budget with a SLIGHT profit, if any.

And I'd like to know where this alleged debunking is. Even just glancing at the stats for various media branches of the franchise on Wiki shows huge numbers. And they are backed up by reputable sources, like Marketwatch, and sales figures from the companies themselves. So, if those are "fake", what sources are you using to refute them? I'm curious how you know this.
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Old 05-23-2019, 09:57 PM   #844
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Pokemania never died.
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:01 PM   #845
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You "most definitely" don't know what a fad is.
Yeah... Poke´mon never died. The mainline games of each Pokémon generation are always either the top selling games on their respective devices or in the top 3. Just because a lot of people from my generation(born between 1989 and 1992) moved on from Pokémon after Gen II doesn't mean the franchise didn't continue being very popular. Perhaps the peak was indeed in 1998-2000, but no way can Pokémon ever be called "just a fad".
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Old 05-23-2019, 10:11 PM   #846
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The TMNT fad never died.
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Old 05-24-2019, 01:49 AM   #847
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The TMNT fad never died.
You forgot 1999-2002 existed right
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Old 05-24-2019, 10:17 AM   #848
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Looks like the movie has been pushed back to February 14th 2020.

https://twitter.com/rejectedjokes/st...40115255894022
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:41 PM   #849
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Looks like the movie has been pushed back to February 14th 2020.

https://twitter.com/rejectedjokes/st...40115255894022
This is gonna be the second worst Valentine's day for me after 2017 WHY PARAMOUNT WHY
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:43 PM   #850
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that's dumb
the people bitching will continue to bitch regardless of the changes, they want hateclicks for youtube views and or site views and go for the low hanging fruit
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Jokes aside I'm excited to see what they got for Sonic's new design
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:47 PM   #852
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that's dumb
the people bitching will continue to bitch regardless of the changes, they want hateclicks for youtube views and or site views and go for the low hanging fruit
I was joking when I said it was going to be my worst Valentine's day ever but that's not what your talking about and you won't care so I'm sorry for joking
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:49 PM   #853
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I didn't even read your reply, i was responding to the news of the delay in general.
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Old 05-24-2019, 07:31 PM   #854
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Old 05-24-2019, 07:51 PM   #855
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Nothing says Valentine's Day like Sonic The Hedgehog.

This will be the perfect date movie.
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Old 05-24-2019, 08:01 PM   #856
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Old 05-24-2019, 08:06 PM   #857
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Old 05-25-2019, 01:30 AM   #858
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Since they’re making changes I’m glad they’re delaying it because November was too soon. Shoehorning edits would most likely hurt it overall. However I’m still very much against a studio giving those who complain the power to directly impact a movie.

This is a great article about this whole situation. https://io9.gizmodo.com/vfx-artists-...edo-1834653108

He’s right about social media piling onto stuff instead of waiting because opinions can change when a movie is seen or people just get used it. They really should have released the posters first. The look and quality of cgi is much better than the trailer which was probably made awhile ago.

Now February is not a huge difference. It’s possible they just delayed it to give themselves more breathing room but if they are making major changes to him I wonder if they’re going to remove the trailer (from their own accounts - not reposts). Pretty sure they could have stopped it from playing in theaters.

Also what about merchandise? Toy companies had the design in advance and since it was scheduled for November I assume they started making them. Will the first wave become rare/collectible due to being canceled or just variants for oddly no apparent reason?

It’s fine to want to please those who genuinely care but if they were willing to take fan input they should have released models with a poll or just to gauge opinions. Maybe the changes won’t be significant but they should have to stuck by their work at this point.

I know some will say they do not care, should have gotten him “right” the first time or it’ll suck anyway etc...that’s just cynical nonsense. Regardless nobody is purposely trying to make a crappy version of something you like. People would lose their (presumably) high paying jobs for messing around with studio’s licenses and franchises.
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:45 AM   #859
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Since they’re making changes I’m glad they’re delaying it because November was too soon. Shoehorning edits would most likely hurt it overall. However I’m still very much against a studio giving those who complain the power to directly impact a movie.
Well it was clear that viewers didn't like what they saw of the main character's model. With that being in mind, they clearly want fans (regardless whether they have faith in this movie or not) to see it as well as wanting those Detective Pikachu views, lol. It's nice to show that they consider those people's opinions. Releasing something that was obviously going to be controversial is the last thing Sonic needs right now.

I do see where you're coming from but in this case, it wasn't a good idea to make this movie in the first place.
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