Official Justice League Movie

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Originally Posted by Voltron

That makes one of us.

The problems were apparent in BvS. Batman was kind of pointless in the film. He spent 15 minutes going toe-to-toe with Supes, then was worthless against Doomsday. It made the whole character worthless. His whole function in the film was to put a kryptonite spear into Supes's hands.

Then we pan out in Justice League and find that not only is Batman pointless, the entire Justice League is, too.

If you're going to make a Justice League movie, make one where other characters get to shine and develop. If you're going to make a bunch of losers whine about not having Superman, then have Superman beat the crap out of them, then don't bother. Just give me a Superman movie and be done with it.

They kinda backed themselves into that corner by killing Superman in Dawn of Justice.

Justice League had little choice but to be about how important Superman is and his resurrection.

Honestly I fail to see the decades old obsession the WB had with doing The Death of Superman story. Sure, it was a huge deal that made headlines back in the day the day but now everyone is clued in that death of super heroes are hardly a big deal and the story itself is hardly remembered as a classic.

I think they've probably screwed themselves when it comes to future Superman. Even if Cavill had not sought a pay rise it would take some out of the box thinking to get people interested in this version of the character. When coming out of Thor: Ragnarok my first though way hey that's basically could be the Triceraton arc from TMNT made into a movie...then my second thought was hey that could easily have been the Gladiator arc from Superman were he goes to Warworld.

There's hundreds of ways to go with the character but if you can't somehow work in the pretentious self importance of Death of Superman and Dark Knight Returns WB and DC are not interested.

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

I agree with both points. I wanted the Darkseid plot resolved. A big DC guy like me didn't even know who Steppenwolf was at the time.

They shouldn't have made it two movies. They had not earned that the way the MCU has.

You could argue that Avengers 2012 did the same thing by making the villain a lackey for the off-screen big bad kept back for the sequel but Loki is a villain in his own right and proved popular in the Thor movie.

Just picking one of Darkseid's flunkies that no one had ever heard of at random was stupid. If they were going to go that route they should have had all of them. Have Darkseid send Granny Goodness to get the Mother Box on Themyscira, Mantis to get the one in Atlantis, Steppenwolf to get one on somewhere like OA and then Kalibak to get one in museum or something like that in Central City.

Then in the big battle Superman battles Darkseid and the rest take on one of his warriors. Superman gets that all important comeback and the other members of the Justice League get something to do.