5 dead after argument at golf course led to shooting and mobile home explosion

*Prowler* · 06-24-2019, 02:51 PM

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...-dead-63895264

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California golf course dispute sparks shooting, fire; 5 dead

A third body has been found in the rubble of a burned-out mobile home in California, bringing to five the number of dead in a shooting and fire that began during an argument at a golf course, authorities said.

Santa Maria police identified Kurt Bracke, 70, and Richard Hanen, 78, as the victims who were fatally shot.

Residents told The Santa Maria Times there had been a long-standing feud between the two men and the shooter that boiled over Friday at the golf course of the Casa Grande Mobile Estates in Santa Maria, a coastal city about 140 miles (225 kilometers) northwest of Los Angeles. The shooter has not been identified.

"These three guys were threatening each other for a long time," Keith Castro said.

Responding to a report of shots fired at the mobile home park on Friday morning, police found one man fatally shot inside the Casa Grande clubhouse and another dead on the grass nearby, the newspaper reported.

The gunman is believed to have fled to his mobile home, which then went up in flames after a small explosion. The blaze spread to nearby mobile homes before it could be put out by firefighters, where ammunition was exploding from the gunman's mobile home.

"All throughout the firefighting efforts, ammunition was cooking off," Police Chief Phil Hansen said.

Authorities initially found two bodies— one of which is believed to be the gunman's— in the rubble, but said Saturday an additional victim had been located. Their names will be released after the coroner's office confirms their identities.

The gas valve to the mobile home park was turned off during the firefighting efforts, the Southern California Gas Company said in an email. It has since been turned back on.

Santa Maria City Councilwoman Gloria Soto expressed her condolences to the victims' families on Twitter.

"I am committed to working on local policies that keep our residents and their families safe," she wrote .

Santa Maria police declined to release any additional information and Casa Grande Mobile Estates declined to comment on Sunday.

This is quite a... strange story and headline, Hence why I had to share this here.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 06-24-2019, 03:12 PM

I was gonna guess Florida. Surprised to see California.

~~AquaParade~~ · 06-24-2019, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I was gonna guess Florida. Surprised to see California.

Florida is always a good bet when it comes to insane current events. Tragic case here though.

*Prowler* · 06-24-2019, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Florida is always a good bet when it comes to insane current events. Tragic case here though.

Why is that the case? What is it about Florida that makes such incidents seemingly more common? Or at least more reported by the media?

*MsMarvelDuckie* · 06-24-2019, 05:15 PM

Florida Man.....

*IndigoErth* · 06-24-2019, 05:24 PM

When old men who play golf kill each other, I'm not sure there is any hope left for this species. Maybe it's time for humanity to just call it quits.

*Prowler* · 06-24-2019, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

When old men who play golf kill each other, I'm not sure there is any hope left for this species. Maybe it's time for humanity to just call it quits.

About a decade ago I remember reading on the news about two guys who were roommates and killed each other in a fight for... a roll of toilet paper.

~~Sumac~~ · 06-24-2019, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

When old men who play golf kill each other, I'm not sure there is any hope left for this species. Maybe it's time for humanity to just call it quits.

Stop overdramatazing.
People have killed each for less.

*IndigoErth* · 06-24-2019, 10:58 PM

I don't think it's possible to "overdramtize" when it gets that stupid. Toilet paper? Really makes you wonder how humanity got this far only to fall to pieces over stupid stuff now.

*Andrew NDB* · 06-25-2019, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I don't think it's possible to "overdramtize" when it gets that stupid. Toilet paper? Really makes you wonder how humanity got this far only to fall to pieces over stupid stuff now.

I guarantee you that you can dig into easily Googleable stories in the 80s and 70s for stories of equally and probably far, far sillier.

And I only say the 80s and 70s because that's when stuff began to be readily documented in a fashion somewhat resembling a prototype for the current media.

~~Sumac~~ · 06-25-2019, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I don't think it's possible to "overdramtize" when it gets that stupid. Toilet paper? Really makes you wonder how humanity got this far only to fall to pieces over stupid stuff now.

One of the major feuds between rich Venice families, which influenced history of the humanity, had happened because of the bad joke of the court jester.

Humanity is alright, despite some whiners always whining about upcoming end of the world, due to being easily impressionable, as well, as not having enough knowledge about human history.

We wouldn't get this far if humanity consisted mostly of those types of people. Which is not the case.

So take breath, relax and watch some cartoons.

*Prowler* · 06-26-2019, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sumac

Stop overdramatazing.
People have killed each for less.

Occasionally you read on the news about someone in a small rural town or village murdering their neighbour or relative due to some inheritance dispute or some argument they had at a café over football or something like that.

Such things could easily be avoided but there's always gonna be a small minority of humans doing such things, no matter how safe your country is. Sucks but human nature can be like that at times.

*Papenbrook* · 06-27-2019, 02:00 AM

Wow, I'm ... speechless.

Why did this even have to happen?

*DarkFell* · 06-29-2019, 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Florida Man.....

Don't forget our humble state - we've got some crazies here too.

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Originally Posted by IndigoErth

When old men who play golf kill each other, I'm not sure there is any hope left for this species.

As I mentioned above, there are people here that can / do kill each other just for the last beer.

~~AquaParade~~ · 06-29-2019, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Prowler

Why is that the case? What is it about Florida that makes such incidents seemingly more common? Or at least more reported by the media?

Good question. My only guess is the sheer size and potential population. Maybe it’s just a strange place though, idk.

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CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy Annalist Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 16,435	I was gonna guess Florida. Surprised to see California. __________________ *ALL THEIR DAYS ARE NUMBERED*

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MsMarvelDuckie I Married a Duck! Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: The bowels of Hell, Texas(otherwise known as Decatur) Posts: 8,773	Florida Man..... __________________ "You IDIOTS! You've captured their STUNT doubles!" -from "Spaceballs" "Where Science ends, magic begins." -Spiral, Uncanny X-Men #491 My various stories and fan-fics are now here- https://m.fanfiction.net/u/4770494/#end

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IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	When old men who play golf kill each other, I'm not sure there is any hope left for this species. Maybe it's time for humanity to just call it quits.

06-24-2019, 10:58 PM	#9
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	I don't think it's possible to "overdramtize" when it gets that stupid. Toilet paper? Really makes you wonder how humanity got this far only to fall to pieces over stupid stuff now.

06-27-2019, 02:00 AM	#13
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	Wow, I'm ... speechless. Why did this even have to happen?