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Old 07-31-2019, 01:22 PM   #61
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I still don't like Karai's comment about Splinter focusing on revenge when he is instead about taking care of family.
That's just her take on things, not necessarily the truth. Don't forget that we as readers know more than any one character. If anything, it only helps illustrate how narrow Karai's worldview is that she can only think in terms of revenge. When all you have is a hammer...
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Old 07-31-2019, 01:30 PM   #62
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I personally found Angel the most interesting when she just had a bad attitude and a pair of escrima.

And, as many are probably sick of hearing, I preferred Alopex when she was a terrifying nightmare fox, not some cute l'il fluffball. I do like the Angel/Alopex duo, though.

The problem is that with Alopex it feels like after she was done with being everyone's meat puppet, the writers don't really know what to do with her.

I honestly felt her story should have ended with Kitsune's control broken and she decides that she wants to stay in the snow.
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Old 07-31-2019, 01:34 PM   #63
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HAHAHAAH Karai will kill Splinter for what what he did to me! I killed the 2012 splinter and she will kill the 2011 splinter! Now the foot clan will return to my family as it should!
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Old 07-31-2019, 01:53 PM   #64
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The problem is that with Alopex it feels like after she was done with being everyone's meat puppet, the writers don't really know what to do with her.

I honestly felt her story should have ended with Kitsune's control broken and she decides that she wants to stay in the snow.
I figure Tom, Bobby, and Sophie have plans for Alopex down the line. After all, I used to think Hun should've died in "Vengeance", but seeing Casey become more like his father and team up with him has been a slow-burning story I'm VERY interested in seeing hit a crescendo!

But for now, I can't help but agree with you; every once in awhile Angel pulls the Turtles' asses out of the fire (which I don't like), and then runs off to do vigilante stuff with Angel. That's been about it.

I did like the Alopex/Raph team-up against Null in TMNT Universe, though.
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Old 07-31-2019, 01:55 PM   #65
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You are the only one. Big Louie sucks and got more than the silly '87 caricature ever deserved.
Pinky McFingers, Mad Dog McMutt, Mugsy McGuffin, Tony Vivaldi, The Globfather...come on, Big Louie can easily overtake these guys.
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Old 07-31-2019, 02:01 PM   #66
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It seemed like she was OK up until the discussion with Splinter turned to the orphans, then everything quickly went downhill from there. Hell, even Kitsune trying to convince Karai of Splinter being bad wasn't enough.

With that said, the sword probably is feeding off of Karai's anger.
"WHY CAN'T I HAVE MY CHILD SOLDIERS?!?!"

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It didn't look to me like he was about confront Splinter at all, more like he was just watching from the shadows and shocked at what he was witnessing, as he usually is when it comes to violence. Unless, y'know, he's the one inflicting it.
Yeah, it seemed kind of like this was the situation in that moment:
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Old 07-31-2019, 02:09 PM   #67
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Pinky McFingers, Mad Dog McMutt, Mugsy McGuffin, Tony Vivaldi, The Globfather...come on, Big Louie can easily overtake these guys.
They suck, one and all.

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"WHY CAN'T I HAVE MY CHILD SOLDIERS?!?!"
Splinter doesn't have child soldiers... he has mutated reincarnated teenagers trained in the lethal arts!

>.>
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Totally different.
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Old 07-31-2019, 02:15 PM   #68
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Splinter doesn't have child soldiers... he has mutated reincarnated teenagers trained in the lethal arts!

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Totally different.
Only in how many lifetimes it took him to train said child soldiers. Better luck next time, Karai!
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Old 07-31-2019, 02:19 PM   #69
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I did like the Alopex/Raph team-up against Null in TMNT Universe, though.
I loved that team up. I think the two of them have a better dynamic than Alopex/Nobody. It's just woefully under-utilized.
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Old 07-31-2019, 02:26 PM   #70
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Splinter doesn't have child soldiers... he has mutated reincarnated teenagers trained in the lethal arts!

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Totally different.
I mean, yeah, 16 year olds in feudal Japan when Shredder is hunting them for dead vs what, 8-10 year olds from an orphanage? At the very least they have should have more options than child soldier or death.
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Yeah, big difference. Especially in time and culture.
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Old 07-31-2019, 04:41 PM   #72
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it's all just building up. i think jennys gonna need a girls night out after this whole debacale is over. also i'm reminded of the last words from ernest thayers casey at the bat "mighty Casey has struck out."
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Old 07-31-2019, 04:49 PM   #73
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It's funny how she and Casey are considered a couple. Have they been on more than one date? I don't remember them considered one by others until this either. Funny how a label is put on something when tragedy strikes.

I was correct in Madame Null's intention running Stockman's company and controlling his resources.
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Old 07-31-2019, 04:57 PM   #74
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Well Jenny and Casey did battlefield "I think you're neat" stuff, then there was the icecream social, then there was the christmastime date, and Coney island. I think with that many confirmed interactions it's safe to assume more happened off screen, given the dialogue.
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So if the sword is controlling Karai, or at least feeding her anger and amplifying it, will the Turtles forgive her for nearly killing Jennika? Will Jennika herself?
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So if the sword is controlling Karai, or at least feeding her anger and amplifying it, will the Turtles forgive her for nearly killing Jennika? Will Jennika herself?
The sword could be the key to unleashing the Dragon.
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Old 07-31-2019, 06:34 PM   #77
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So if the sword is controlling Karai, or at least feeding her anger and amplifying it, will the Turtles forgive her for nearly killing Jennika? Will Jennika herself?
You're assuming she won't kill anyone else before this whole thing is over...
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Maybe not anyone too important, unless she does Splinter in and then she's really screwed. I do think Hun might die this arc, but who kills him could be anyone. I think all the rest of the main cast are safe besides maybe Splinter, (unless you count Metalhead possibly blowing up), as there doesn't strike me being any other character having their story end yet
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So if the sword is controlling Karai, or at least feeding her anger and amplifying it, will the Turtles forgive her for nearly killing Jennika? Will Jennika herself?
kinda feels like she found soul edge from the soul caliber series. maybe she's gonna grow organic shredder armor soon.
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Yeah, it’s less the sword ‘corrupting’ Karai anymore than it bringing a bunch of stuff she already carried with her.

To be honest, a person who picks up a mystical sword called the Sword of Hate and thinks, ‘naw, I can handle this’ (or, to take another angle, feels she needs it) probably speaks to her own overconfidence in resisting the Dark Side.

I suppose I’m one person who wouldn’t mind Jenny, Angel and Alopex forming a team...but I’m more inclined to think this series ends with the Turtles and their allies broken into factions. Raph with the Mutanimals, perhaps with Alopex joining him, Leo leading the Loyal to Splinter Foot faction with Jennika, Don teaming up with Harold and perhaps the Utroms at Bunrow to pursue solutions through technology, and Mikey...uh...either teaming up with Raph with the Mutanimals again or joining the Purple Dragons with Casey and April, maybe trying to put a positive public face on mutants? That’s a shot in the dark I know but I’ve always felt going for public opinion against both Null and the EPF would actually be the way to go.
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