It: Chapter Two

[neatoman]

I noticed that they inserted single player footage of Street Fighter 1 when the characters were clearly intended to play VS mode. Not that Street Fighter 1 is all that familiar to most people but it's really obvious to anyone who has ever played the game.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by neatoman

I noticed that they inserted single player footage of Street Fighter 1 when the characters were clearly intended to play VS mode. Not that Street Fighter 1 is all that familiar to most people but it's really obvious to anyone who has ever played the game.

As a kid in elementary school I didn't know anyone that had ever played Street Fighter 1. Most kids didn't even think it existed and just thought the series began with 2, and there wasn't an internet yet to find out for sure.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

As a kid in elementary school I didn't know anyone that had ever played Street Fighter 1. Most kids didn't even think it existed and just thought the series began with 2, and there wasn't an internet yet to find out for sure.

Honestly before I saw a game magazine talking about 'Fighting Street's I always thought SF2 was called as such cause it just sounds cool.

I did notice that scene, though it did me a bit of the fuzzies to hear the Street Fighter music play as they started transitioning to a flashback.

I'm just confused, like was he gay in the book?

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Honestly before I saw a game magazine talking about 'Fighting Street's I always thought SF2 was called as such cause it just sounds cool.

I did notice that scene, though it did me a bit of the fuzzies to hear the Street Fighter music play as they started transitioning to a flashback.

I'm just confused, like was he gay in the book?

No, it was made for this version only. Chapter 1 did not indicate anything either which makes it odd.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

No, it was made for this version only. Chapter 1 did not indicate anything either which makes it odd.

Yeah, wasn't he kinda pervy towards girls or at least making pervy comments in the first one?

Pennywise taunted him about 'knowing his secret' but it never had a pay off.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Yeah, wasn't he kinda pervy towards girls or at least making pervy comments in the first one?

Pennywise taunted him about 'knowing his secret' but it never had a pay off.

Exactly. Of the group the pervert was Richie. I suppose the commentary is narratively used as Richie covering himself.

If any of the group was, it was Eddie. Instead he is the object of his friend's feeling. Was Eddie in the novel or the 1990 adaptation? It is never said and is open to personal interpretation. He is just a pathetic mama's boy still at home who never dated anyone.

Like I said above trying to cater to agendas of inclusion of homosexuality and suicide, it fails miserably like it's in your face checking off boxes which misses the point. That in effect makes it a worse product and instead of increasing positive attention it gets negative because of the poor attempt.

[Andrew NDB]

I remember when weird dudes were allowed to just be weird dudes in movies and TV.

[Coola Yagami]

It just doesn't make sense, which is one of the reasons I'm not a big fan of all these extra little scares they added to the kids during flashbacks. All those events took place before their final battle at the end of the first movie, not once did Pennywise decide to threaten Richie with his 'secret' in front of his friends.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

It just doesn't make sense, which is one of the reasons I'm not a big fan of all these extra little scares they added to the kids during flashbacks. All those events took place before their final battle at the end of the first movie, not once did Pennywise decide to threaten Richie with his 'secret' in front of his friends.

I do remember looking at my wife in the first one and saying, "Oh yeah. They're totally making him gay in part 2." Not because of what it looked like they were developing in the first movie, but because of the irresistible opportunity I know it would be to these studios today. She didn't believe me.

[IMJ]

I thought the first one was a terrific movie. Part 2 felt messy and the narrative was a bit distorted - for example, it wasn't immediately clear that the group had forgotten the events of their childhood, until they hit you over the head with explanatory dialog. There were other examples too, but I'm not too sure if those were born of King's original novel or if that was more "Hollywood improvement". I never read this book.

And honestly I thought it dragged on pretty badly in places. I was a little disappointed. But I was also very disinterested very soon into the movie, but I can't place why, exactly.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IMJ

I thought the first one was a terrific movie. Part 2 felt messy and the narrative was a bit distorted - for example, it wasn't immediately clear that the group had forgotten the events of their childhood, until they hit you over the head with explanatory dialog. There were other examples too, but I'm not too sure if those were born of King's original novel or if that was more "Hollywood improvement". I never read this book.

And honestly I thought it dragged on pretty badly in places. I was a little disappointed. But I was also very disinterested very soon into the movie, but I can't place why, exactly.

Apparently the "they forgot everything after leaving" was really a book thing.

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

As a kid in elementary school I didn't know anyone that had ever played Street Fighter 1. Most kids didn't even think it existed and just thought the series began with 2, and there wasn't an internet yet to find out for sure.

The game is pretty easy to get now, it's in the 30th anniversary collection. It's an OK collection, I just wish they included the PSP version of Alpha 3.

Anyway, speaking of the gay stuff, does anyone remember if Part 1 had any implication that Henry Bowers was gay? He is actually implied to be gay in the book.