Star Wars: Episode IX - Page 42

*sdp* · 10-17-2019, 05:59 AM

So from what we know, Lucas makes an idea for a ST, JJ takes the concept of Ep7 only and makes it into a trilogy rehashing the ideas of the OT in it to stretch it out, ignores the rest of Lucas' draft. Rian proceeds to do whatever he wants in TLJ doing absolutely nothing to form a story arc and anger fans. Trevorrow wants to do polish the turd, is fired for realizing the ST is a mess. JJ is brought in to polish the turd after they realize they did screw it up.

~~Vegita-San~~ · 10-17-2019, 07:00 AM

it's amazing to me that they can get something relatively unknown like marvel done right, and mess up star wars so grandly.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-17-2019, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by sdp

So from what we know, Lucas makes an idea for a ST, JJ takes the concept of Ep7 only and makes it into a trilogy rehashing the ideas of the OT in it to stretch it out, ignores the rest of Lucas' draft. Rian proceeds to do whatever he wants in TLJ doing absolutely nothing to form a story arc and anger fans. Trevorrow wants to do polish the turd, is fired for realizing the ST is a mess. JJ is brought in to polish the turd after they realize they did screw it up.

It looks about right, though it's leaving out big things. Like Michael Arndt coming in first to write a script that was a relatively faithful take on George Lucas' outline for 7 before Disney had JJ and Kasdan write the script themselves, forcing them to retool it into more of an ANH remake. Some of Arndt's/Lucas' most basic material even survived into the JJ/Kasdan script (Luke in solitude on some planet, fresh-faced female lead), but not much.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-17-2019, 08:04 PM

What a f*cking joke.

*Autbot_Benz* · 10-21-2019, 08:53 PM

*Andrew NDB* · 10-21-2019, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Still not really showing us anything. It would be nice to know if Palpatine is corporeal, at least... otherwise it's hard to get too excited about him just being a disembodied voice.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-21-2019, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Still not really showing us anything. It would be nice to know if Palpatine is corporeal, at least... otherwise it's hard to get too excited about him just being a disembodied voice.

They probably don't even know yet, themselves. Aren't they still in last-minute re-shoots, and projected to be until, like, the day before the movie comes out?

F*ck Star Wars. These clowns at Disney could f*ck up a wet dream.

*sdp* · 10-21-2019, 10:33 PM

Final tráiler Is lackluster like all the sequel trilogy
But man did I get goosebumps when I heard the emperor , here's hoping they somehow salvage the "saga" after ****ing up episode 7/8

*IMJ* · 10-21-2019, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by sdp

Final tráiler Is lackluster like all the sequel trilogy
But man did I get goosebumps when I heard the emperor , here's hoping they somehow salvage the "saga" after ****ing up episode 7/8

3-PO was taking a moment to look at his old friends even though this is the first time they've all been together on a ship....

*Andrew NDB* · 10-21-2019, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by IMJ

3-PO was taking a moment to look at his old friends even though this is the first time they've all been together on a ship....

Makes me angry. All this focus on BB-8 and now a new droid, yet 7 and 8 barely did a thing with 3PO or R2D2. Why did we even need new droids to begin with? They're supposed to be the through-line for all the movies.

The answer is toys, obviously. But f*** them for that.

*ZariusTwo* · 10-22-2019, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by IMJ

3-PO was taking a moment to look at his old friends even though this is the first time they've all been together on a ship....

I actually got a response about that on another forum saying "it's not for the characters, it's for the audience who've been with him for nine of these"

*sdp* · 10-22-2019, 07:06 AM

No captain phasma, really hoped they'd try to redeem her. Shame.
Kylo/Rens relationship is somehow the strongest link they have going into the film from the previous, if they don't mess up Palpatine it could work maybe.

BB8 was great in ep7, lame in ep8, but yes r2d2/3p0 should've been the focus, they are what helped link all previous movies.

*CyberCubed* · 10-22-2019, 12:25 PM

Love that ice asteroid shot, that’s going to make some cool levels in an upcoming videogame for sure.

*frank_one* · 10-22-2019, 12:55 PM

After Ep7 and 8, I don't really care anymore. It is just official fanfiction.

~~Vegita-San~~ · 10-22-2019, 12:56 PM

pretty much. bored with bad storytelling and no effort

*Andrew NDB* · 10-22-2019, 01:02 PM

Episode 7: "Guess what we're setting up for 8 and 9?!?!"

Episode 8: "Nothing. That's what we're setting up. In fact, nothing is the point."

Episode 9: "Come see our movie!!"

*ranger_scout* · 10-22-2019, 01:58 PM

All I can say is that looks like one epic finale.

~~Vegita-San~~ · 10-22-2019, 01:59 PM

i'm rather shocked a majority of the YT Trailer comments seem to disagree with that.

most seem to be trashing it.

~~AquaParade~~ · 10-22-2019, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Episode 7: "Guess what we're setting up for 8 and 9?!?!"

Episode 8: "Nothing. That's what we're setting up."

Episode 9: "Come see our movie!!"

Ha! I have such a basic understanding of Star Wars, that I hardly feel fit to critique it, but I get this and it's pretty funny.

Sometimes I really appreciate Star Wars, because the worlds and sets are fun, but sometimes I just don't know. I can hardly sit through a Star Wars film without taking a break. The other day I was watching one and just felt numbed by all the superfluous shouting of commands and repeated explosions. And man, this sounds so 'edgelord' or gratuitous, but I'm not sure I can buy into these "wars" when there is never a drop of blood or hardly a limb lost. I'm not bloodthirsty, but I need to have my imagination supported a bit.

This isn't meant to bash on Star Wars. These are really lazy and also personal complaints. You could sum up a lot of movies I like and make them sound like drivel. But that said, it just wasn't working for me. And it's sort of rare for me that it ever does.

Sometimes I get kind of high on the dose though. I actually really enjoyed The Force Awakens upon first viewing, but now I'm not exactly sure why. Anyways, I've lost all semblance of a coherent statement, so I'll stop rambling.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-22-2019, 08:13 PM

Hot Take: Aside from how they inarguably changed filmmaking forever, they've never actually been as good as their reputation.

The most devout fanatics were exposed to it as very young children. In my experience, anyone who first sees them at any age past 11 or 12 might like them a whole lot, but they're not in romantic love with them. It's like pro wrestling; it's only "Great" to you if you were very young when you saw it for the first time. If you get into it later on, you can definitely still enjoy it but you're a lot less likely to simply dismiss how stupid it often is.

I finally saw the original trilogy at around 13 or 14, although I did see bits and pieces on TV occasionally before then. And I've always had a strong appreciation for the series, but I can't say I've ever been a fanatic. I have quite a few problems with every single film, even Empire, the "Untouchable Golden Calf". They're all very flawed movies.

At this point in my life I don't even act surprised when a person says that they're underwhelmed by Star Wars. It's not for everyone, and frankly the ones who love it the most have some issues in general.

Collectively, they're Pretty Good overall but it's definitely a "whole being greater than the sum of its parts" situation.

10-17-2019, 05:59 AM	#821
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	So from what we know, Lucas makes an idea for a ST, JJ takes the concept of Ep7 only and makes it into a trilogy rehashing the ideas of the OT in it to stretch it out, ignores the rest of Lucas' draft. Rian proceeds to do whatever he wants in TLJ doing absolutely nothing to form a story arc and anger fans. Trevorrow wants to do polish the turd, is fired for realizing the ST is a mess. JJ is brought in to polish the turd after they realize they did screw it up. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

10-21-2019, 08:53 PM	#825
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,192	__________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

10-21-2019, 10:33 PM	#828
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	Final tráiler Is lackluster like all the sequel trilogy But man did I get goosebumps when I heard the emperor , here's hoping they somehow salvage the "saga" after **ing up episode 7/8 __________________ Trapt urself Page MiscRave!!! Click to join The Drome Discord server**

10-22-2019, 01:02 PM	#836
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,568	Episode 7: "Guess what we're setting up for 8 and 9?!?!" Episode 8: "Nothing. That's what we're setting up. In fact, nothing is the point." Episode 9: "Come see our movie!!" __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ] Last edited by Andrew NDB; 10-22-2019 at 08:36 PM.

10-17-2019, 07:00 AM	#822
~~Vegita-San~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,089	it's amazing to me that they can get something relatively unknown like marvel done right, and mess up star wars so grandly.

10-17-2019, 08:04 PM	#824
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	What a f*cking joke.

10-22-2019, 07:06 AM	#832
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	No captain phasma, really hoped they'd try to redeem her. Shame. Kylo/Rens relationship is somehow the strongest link they have going into the film from the previous, if they don't mess up Palpatine it could work maybe. BB8 was great in ep7, lame in ep8, but yes r2d2/3p0 should've been the focus, they are what helped link all previous movies.

10-22-2019, 12:25 PM	#833
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,886	Love that ice asteroid shot, that’s going to make some cool levels in an upcoming videogame for sure.

10-22-2019, 12:55 PM	#834
frank_one Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Southern Europe Posts: 2,254	After Ep7 and 8, I don't really care anymore. It is just official fanfiction.

10-22-2019, 12:56 PM	#835
~~Vegita-San~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,089	pretty much. bored with bad storytelling and no effort

10-22-2019, 01:58 PM	#837
ranger_scout Foot Elite Join Date: May 2014 Location: Texas Posts: 3,776	All I can say is that looks like one epic finale.

10-22-2019, 01:59 PM	#838
~~Vegita-San~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,089	i'm rather shocked a majority of the YT Trailer comments seem to disagree with that. most seem to be trashing it.

10-22-2019, 08:13 PM	#840
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Hot Take: Aside from how they inarguably changed filmmaking forever, they've never actually been as good as their reputation. The most devout fanatics were exposed to it as very young children. In my experience, anyone who first sees them at any age past 11 or 12 might like them a whole lot, but they're not in romantic love with them. It's like pro wrestling; it's only "Great" to you if you were very young when you saw it for the first time. If you get into it later on, you can definitely still enjoy it but you're a lot less likely to simply dismiss how stupid it often is. I finally saw the original trilogy at around 13 or 14, although I did see bits and pieces on TV occasionally before then. And I've always had a strong appreciation for the series, but I can't say I've ever been a fanatic. I have quite a few problems with every single film, even Empire, the "Untouchable Golden Calf". They're all very flawed movies. At this point in my life I don't even act surprised when a person says that they're underwhelmed by Star Wars. It's not for everyone, and frankly the ones who love it the most have some issues in general. Collectively, they're Pretty Good overall but it's definitely a "whole being greater than the sum of its parts" situation.