New Ghostbusters movie in OG movie universe Jason Reitman directing 2020

[Andrew NDB]

I don't think it was focus groups. I just think Jason wants to use the original car. Because it's what people remember most? Probably.

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You have to register that kind of license plate, yes. Or any kind of license plate. You want to make a custom one, you have to apply, the city can say "No," etc.. The question is, why would they go and re-register a NEW plate for the same car, if it was the same car?

I didn’t know. I thought only the actual ID of numbers and letters needed registration.

Your points are sound. But here we are with Ghostbusters: Afterlife, in which we know the Ecto-1 is completely untouched for 30 years in a barn somewhere. Between that, there being 0 story reason for them to hypothetically stripping down all (not even most, all) of the upgrades from the 1A post-GB2 (especially with there being no ghosts anymore), the license plate thing, and the GB2 did happen thing (the trailer's alluding that GB2 DID happen)... the only possible explanation that makes everything work is that there was two cars.

but what was do “upgraded” about it? Aside from them never telling us it looks like just a bigger satellite dish and lights. The scrolling text bar and caution stripes don’t do anything.

Who knows. Maybe the Ecto-1 had something wrong with it. Or maybe Egon pulled it aside/mothballed it and made it his pet project while the "main" car was replaced with a fresh model (Ecto-1A) for their reopening in GB2.

I still find it more believable they just took off the upgrades because they were too big, unnecessary or other reason sometime after GB2.

Maybe it had to be registered again because it was flashier and taller? Like from a city/working class vehicle it might have been viewed differently.

Originally Posted by d_osborn

The German version of the trailer has another scene-- the Ecto Goggles were upgraded at some point around the 80s or 90s. The PKE is also slightly different. I'm sure well see new gear.

Ya I saw that. The camera thing and them doing shooting practice outside. Pretty cool.

[Leo656]

The more I look at it, the more I like about it; it's definitely much, much more in line with what they should have tried doing all along, once a "real" GB3 was off the table. And as trailers go, it hits the correct emotional beats. I'm still very worried that the originals won't be given much to do, though, although I hope I'm wrong. I mean, it's been said a million times, but Disney Star Wars had ONE JOB, and they blew it, totally squandering a literal once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reunite the characters people loved for One Last Round AND find some time for those characters to pass the baton to some new characters. Should've been easy, millions of fanfic hacks have spent decades writing that exact story since they figured the movies would never bother, and I promise you that even the worst of those was more satisfying than the "official" version that Disney gave us.

It's just... I can learn to like new characters, but it's very, very hard for me to ever care about them MORE than the originals, so if there's going to be a "shared space", I really need for the OGs to be treated with the proper respect and reverence for me to be all-in. Like, Tim Drake or Kyle Rayner may as well be unicorns in the grand scheme of things; "newer" is almost never "better", just Newer. Will Rey still resonate in 30+ years to the same extent as Luke, Han, or Leia? Veeeeeeeery unlikely. Likewise, how will the kids in this new one be remembered in the grand scheme of Ghostbusters lore? It all depends on how the story plays out; one would hope that they avoid the mistakes that Disney made with their Star Wars fumble. Some people online are already impatiently bemoaning the fact that the trailer doesn't even hint at the original cast's involvement, lending credence to the rumor that they're barely even in it, and I hope that's not true because it would be a huge missed opportunity, to get everyone together "one last time" and not do anything meaningful with it. It's one thing that Star Wars made that mistake, but let's not forget, Sony themselves made that mistake with the Chickbusters fiasco, getting everyone together and using them in ways that felt more like an insult than anything, diminishing the actors who made people love the franchise just to help "put over" McCarthy and Co. It's entirely possible, and even likely, that Sony learned a lot from that whole fiasco, and thus that the original cast have roles of substance in the movie and not just glorified cameos. I, for one, sincerely hope so. Because no disrespect to the newer cast, but I will simply never care as much about Egon Spengler's granddaughter as I do about Egon Spengler, just like I will never like Rey as much as Luke, it simply isn't going to happen.

This is also rough for me - but very intriguing at the same time - because Egon was my favorite by a large margin. Getting more Ghostbusters without my favorite part of it being personally involved just feels like Christmas without a tree; nice, but incomplete. I fully admit that I don't think I am capable of fully accepting any Egon-less Ghostbusters project set within that same universe, and I admit that's a personal hang-up but it's not likely something I'll get over. BUT. Seeing how much of his presence inspires the events of the new film definitely makes me a lot more interested than I was before. I'm not sure what I was expecting, but I guess I more or less figured they'd just casually mention him dying off-screen and not dwell on it much, so as not to remind people that they COULD have actually done a "real" Part 3 decades ago if not for petty nonsense from everyone involved. So seeing as how it's technically Egon who sets the entire thing in motion, and his family the plot focuses on, is pretty cool. I definitely marked out a little bit when they flashed that "SPENGLER" name tag.

Overall, my optimism is still cautious but I'm more engaged than I was. Like I said originally, "I'll find my excitement when I see something worth getting enthusiastic about". Having finally seen more than just an old car in a barn, I can say: So far, not bad. I share the concerns of many online, namely that we still don't know how the originals are going to factor in, and also, that it kinda leans more towards "Stranger Things" than Ghostbusters. But, I disagree strongly with some comments I've seen that have people bemoaning the lack of humor; frankly, the trailers for Ghostbusters movies have always leaned more serious than silly, especially the earliest trailers, so I actually much prefer that. Furthermore, the Chickbusters trailers just went out of their way to beat you over the head with the "funny" parts of the movie, and they were incredibly NOT funny, so by all means, let them stay away from "comedy" for this round, I'm fine with that.

As of now, I'll probably go see this in theaters, unless the rest of the trailers show me something I really strongly dislike. Fingers crossed.

[Wildcat]

Leo656 praising a new ghostbusters! Just joking. I thought you’d hate seeing the kids use the proton packs though.

Ya it really is a great trailer. There’s some naysayers but that’s with everything. I’m glad there’s not some controversy being made about something or other.

Honestly I’m not worried at all about the original’s roles. They must have some importance since it’s their work being discovered. I can’t imagine cameos even working in this context. Like...hey our old stuff. Don’t cross the streams or do maybe? Good luck.

I found this. Never seen it before. So 1A if it was stored in a barn.

[Leo656]

I guess that is about as close to "praise" as I can reasonably be expected to muster about much of anything in a contemporary setting.

[Leofan26]

As more and more trailers we get it gets me excited. I'm curious about that one scene, it looks like Paul's character is about to be possessed same matter what happened in Ghostbusters 1 and become the gate keeper or something along those lines. I'm betting their mom gets involved the same way.

I hope the next trailer shows more of the original team to have us old time Ghostbusters fans more relaxed about their parts in the film. I really hope its not just cameos, I'd love for Ray to take up being the mentor for them, he always put his heart and Soul into the Ghostbusters stuff.

[Andrew NDB]

Uh oh, it's starting:

https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/...mpression=true

[Leo656]

What a rube.

NOBODY wanted or asked for the movie Chickbusters turned out to be. The ONLY people who have anything good to say about it are people who 1. Never cared about Ghostbusters before anyway, and 2. Have a habit of enjoying terrible movies unironically.

The politics behind it are unfortunate, yes, and hopefully everyone involved learned a valuable lesson or two. Like, "Don't Tell your audience what they want, Listen to what they say", and "Stop trying to make Melissa McCarthy a movie star, she's terrible and it's not going to work." But it's a BAD MOVIE. A to Z, start to finish, I have never, EVER seen another movie in my entire life that had ZERO redeeming qualities whatsoever, unless it had "Transformers" in the title. It's an eyesore, it's painfully NOT funny, it sh*ts on its own source material AND the audience unapologetically, poorly written, poorly staged, poorly acted... Literally the only reason it exists is to tickle the "Salty Fanboy Tears" people, and frankly every single one of those people can get f*cked.

I'm the first person to say "Taste is subjective" and all that jazz, but holy SH*T, GB 2016 is a f*cking terrible movie and if a person can't see it they're operating on a deficiency. I can't be even a little bit nicer about it. I openly tell people, if that's your cup of tea, please don't EVER talk to me about movies because I am not at all skilled at biting my tongue and I will sh*t all over your provably-terrible opinion.

GB 2016 is an insultingly bad movie for reasons that have NOTHING AT ALL to do with women, racism, or even the name "Ghostbusters". It is terrible for a plethora of completely independent reasons. And I'm REALLY sick of the SJW Brigade insisting otherwise. "You're all just terrible people!" No, YOU are, for insisting that a person is some kind of garbage person simply because they have f*cking taste and standards.

Jesus Christ, f*ck these people.

[sdp]

Trailer was fun, I think I'm the only one that wants an Answer the Call reference in the movie in one way or another.

[Leo656]

It's not a scab that needs to be picked. It happened, it was terrible, it was a huge mistake, just throw some dirt on it and move on. All that comes from even mentioning it at all, is to get idiots like the ones in that article ranting and raving about "toxic fanboys and misogyny", and enough with that sh*t already. It made sh*t money so that means women didn't want to see it either, end of story.

It already got more play than it deserved, between the toys that nobody bought and the comics that nobody bought. Like BayTurtles, all that movie did was fracture the fanbase and create a lot of misery. Now that the healing process is well underway, and things are finally moving in the right (or at least better) direction, the last thing anyone needs is to be reminded of that f*cking dumpster fire.

Unless the four hens and Hemsworth all get run over by a Slimer-driven bus, I don't need to ever be reminded of it again for as long as I live.

[Vegita-San]

yep. these npcs just can't accept the fact that their short time in the sun is starting to fade. people, I think, are finally starting to tire of their nonsense.

[Leo656]

Some of us were tired of it to start with.

[sdp]

Answer the Call isn't that bad, the original isn't a masterpiece, the second one is a rehash.

I am sure this movie that gets things "right" will also be a failure, Ghostbusters is just something a bit difficult to recreate, all the franchise has going for it is that it was referenced in Stranger Things and a very old fanbase.

#hottakes

[Vegita-San]

The writers of syndicated RGB and EGB would like to have a word with you about that ;o). THEY and the VIDEO GAME writers got it spot on.

why can't anyone else?

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Uh oh, it's starting:

https://boundingintocomics.com/2019/...mpression=true

Man, those are lot of angry quotes from some angry men just desperate to con a lady into banging them. Wow.

But seriously, the Stranger Things kid is in this movie? Damn, it didn't take long for that kid to get typecast, did it?

[Coola Yagami]

The movie looks intriguing, I just kinda don't like the tone that it feels like a whole other movie. IDK. I want to like it, and I'm curious, but it feels like it's gonna waste the first hour with this new more serious tone and new characters before the originals actually show up and it feels like Ghostbusters, and that's assuming they get a lengthy role and aren't just cameos, or consultants or whatever. I hope to actually see them catching ghosts one last time.


Also, how can these idiots be mad and claim misogyny and whatnot if one of the main characters is a GIRL. I swear it's these kinds of people that live and die by their 'future is female' narrative. They're the same ones that gave flack to Battle Angel Alita because it cared about adapting a manga and telling a story than it did trying to score feminist brownie points.

[Leo656]

It's just one girl and not all of them, is why.

Nobody who describes themselves as a "feminist" with a straight face cares about "equality"; There's only Women Who Want Dominance and Men Who Are Ashamed Of Their Own Dicks.

Thus why the 2016 movie couldn't JUST have four women. That was a bad idea, but not inexcusable in and of itself. No, they had to make every single male character a buffoon, AND include a scene where they literally stop the movie dead to rant about "toxic fanboys on the internet". And that's the kind of distinction that these types of people are incapable of understanding.

[Wildcat]

I thought about them adding a reference or Easter egg to the 2016 movie. Something small in the background would be kinda cool imo.

That article is clearly just trolling. Nobody needs to take it seriously because they’re not being serious.

If GB16 did not have “baggage” behind it people would have treated it as just another reboot that did not live up to expectations. The real world backstory is why some feel obligated to keep on trashing it.

No other movie, however bad it might be, continues to get that much attention. It’s stupid but kind of interesting if you think about it.

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

I thought about them adding a reference or Easter egg to the 2016 movie. Something small in the background would be kinda cool imo.

Same. Offering up small cameos a'la ATC would've been cool. Going by the comments from Leslie Jones, that didn't happen.

I didn't enjoy ATC much at all, but it turned me on to McKinnon. For that, I'm eternally grateful. Paul Feig is an incredibly nice guy, too. Dropping the ball on tone and story doesn't excuse the amount of vitriol they received. At best, it was forgettable.

AFTERLIFE looks phenomenal, but I'm still missing the caution striping.

[Leo656]

If your job is to rebuild audience trust, the absolute last thing you should do is remind people even 1% of the thing that got everybody all pissed off.

Back to the Star Wars analogy, I personally enjoy the Prequels a lot more than the average person (although I absolutely rip them apart where it's deserved, like the horrible acting from every single person who wasn't Ewan), but the fact is, not acknowledging the Prequels at all in Ep. 7 was the right move. They've since botched what I still feel wasn't a bad first step for the Sequel Trilogy, but the absolute last thing they needed to do was slip in any references to Jar-Jar or Midichlorians or Podracing. They may have leaned too much on remixing the originals, but they had nothing to gain whatsoever by referencing the Prequels. Especially since as we've seen, the Sequels all have their own problems.

Same deal. People are rightly still pissed off about the last Ghostbusters movie and they want to forget about it. So let them forget about it. Don't throw Leslie Jones or Melissa McCarthy in people's faces and wink at the audience like it's all a big harmless joke. Unless we're talking about Atari cartridges, there's zero upside in digging up trash once it's been buried.

The three or four people who like that movie can watch that movie. The rest of us desperately want to move on from it.

No cameos.
No winking references.
No callbacks.

"Let the past die. KILL IT, if you have to."

2016 is a bit recent to be considered "the past", but it technically counts, and I can't think of a single thing more appropriate for that particular quote.