Star Wars: Episode IX

[ranger_scout]

I really don’t want to do this, but I might just have to wait till the movie becomes available on Disney+ or home media to see it. The reaction it’s getting sounds just like what happened with the finale of Voltron: Legendary Defender. That series also once started off promising, but it left a bad taste in so many people’s mouths at the very end. Sadly, I also think that the fandom will most likely continue to pick on the actors involved with this trilogy for years to come. I even read something about the latest episode of The Mandalorian, which I haven’t seen yet, and it’s really going to disappoint my dad and my brother.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

I also think that the fandom will most likely continue to pick on the actors involved with this trilogy for years to come.

Like the people that "bullied" Kelly Marie Tran off of Instagram? Oh, boo hoo. Nobody's picking on anyone on a personal level and people have always and will always be assholes on the internet.

[IMJ]

I don't think the actors deserve it if they marched out an played a character well enough. They are given the lines and trying to do the job without having much input into the story or direction.

Maybe some criticism for some clearly strange on-camera behavior if it can be found, sure. But this whole ordeal should rest squarely on the producers, writers and directors.

[frank_one]

As far as I know nobody is bullying Adam Driver, Daisy Ridley, Oscar Isaac or John Boyega. Their characters? Nobody loves them.

[Andrew NDB]

More reviews pouring in:

http://www.darkhorizons.com/rise-of-...-are-not-kind/

“RISE OF SKYWALKER feels like what would happen if, instead of writing an actual screenplay for a STAR WARS movie, you went on Reddit and found a list of EPISODE IX demands written by an unhinged lunatic and then just shot that instead.” – Scott Wampler, Birth Movies Death

Eh, that's dumb. I don't think anybody was demanding a resurrected Emperor or most/all of the things going on in this.

“Rather than making a movie some people might love, Abrams tried to make a movie no one would hate, and as a result, you don’t feel much of anything at all.” – Sam Adams, Slate

That sounds pretty dead-on.

[Andrew NDB]

Spoiler:

So Darth Maul, Yoda, Mace Windu, and exploding inside a destructing Death Star couldn't defeat Emperor Palpatine... but Rey does single-handedly. Just saw the scene. She just takes two lightsabers and bounces his Force lightning back him until he dissolves. Which is stupid, because if it was killing him, why wouldn't he just stop producing the lightning?

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Spoiler:

So Darth Maul, Yoda, Mace Windu, and exploding inside a destructing Death Star couldn't defeat Emperor Palpatine... but Rey does single-handedly. Just saw the scene. She just takes two lightsabers and bounces his Force lightning back him until he dissolves. Which is stupid, because if it was killing him, why wouldn't he just stop producing the lightning?

Because HE'S AN IDIOT!

Seriously, he's written as like, the f*cking dirt-worst "evil mastermind" in movie history across the entire series, and he only ever accomplished jack f*cking sh*t because every single other person in the entire franchise is even more rock-stupid than he is. If it wasn't for Ian's admittedly-impressive vocal delivery, Palpatine would be exposed as an impotent jagoff in a bathrobe and nothing more.

All of the Star Wars film series is the very definition of "idiot plot". Who Booked This Sh*t?!

Spoiler:

Also, I was giving some thought last night to exactly what you said, and for that reason above all I'm giving a big "YAWN" to this latest "death" of Palpatine. If ALL THAT couldn't kill him, then f*ck it, he'll be back again the next time they need another Mysterious Big Bad. As others have pointed out already, this latest twist completely changes the entire Saga from being a story about the Rise/Fall/Rise of the Skywalkers, and makes it ENTIRELY about the Rise/Fall/Rise/Fall (For Realsies, We promise) of f*cking Palpatine, instead. BOOOOO!

Mark my words, they'll have Palpatine in yet another clone body as the Secret Villain for Star Wars Episode XXIX in a few decades because THIS SERIES IS F*CKING STUPID AS F*CK.

[sdp]

I know I'll forever love star wars in one way or another after playing Vader immortal on the oculus. I got goosebumps like I did after those Episode VII trailers. No matter how bad the original movies are still always going to be there.

Only a few hours away.

[Shark_Blade]

Is anyone delighted to see Leia one last time? Surprised they have enough footage to make a coherent story for her or maybe they already finished filming before her death? I thought her story was done pretty well.

"The truth is that J.J. Abrams was great friends with Carrie; he had an extraordinary sense of love for her," her brother said. "They had eight minutes of footage. They grabbed every frame and analyzed it ... and then reverse-engineered it and [got] it into the story the right way. It's kind of magical."

https://www.space.com/leia-original-...last-jedi.html

So JJ included the last footages they had with her and tweaked it into the story.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Is anyone delighted to see Leia one last time? Surprised they have enough footage to make a coherent story for her or maybe they already finished filming before her death? I thought her story was done pretty well.

https://www.space.com/leia-original-...last-jedi.html

So JJ included the last footages they had with her and tweaked it into the story.

There was some reports that there was unused footage of Leia from TLJ as well to add to the pot. That's definitely one of the big things I'm curious to see.

Spoiler:

I know that at one point there is CGI Young Leia for a quick flashback of her learning how to lightsaber wield.

[sdp]

I'm glad they were able to do that, on the other hand Leia in the sequel trilogy is worthless, such a boring character, whatever happened to her? I think she got the worst treatment out of the returning faces. Only cool thing she did was the space float thing she did in TLJ as ridiculous as that was. We didn't get a Solo/Leia kiss, we never got the three together, god what where they thinking.

[Shark_Blade]

Spoiler:

CGI young Leia was there with young Luke training their lightsabers in the forest. She does look a bit off there if you look really closely especially the eyes, like how she is in Rogue One.

But it’s still cool though. Got a taste of how they bonded over Jedi training.

Originally Posted by sdp

I'm glad they were able to do that, on the other hand Leia in the sequel trilogy is worthless, such a boring character, whatever happened to her? I think she got the worst treatment out of the returning faces. Only cool thing she did was the space float thing she did in TLJ as ridiculous as that was. We didn't get a Solo/Leia kiss, we never got the three together, god what where they thinking.

I don’t need to see old people kiss but yeah the 3 of them should have a scene together.

[Leo656]

All that extra time, money and effort wasted because she couldn't keep the straw stick outta her nose. I mean seriously, what a massive headache and colossal inconvenience. I'm no fan or apologist for Disney, but she cost them millions of dollars. For nothing. "I like DRUGS, fam."

For as much sh*t as people talk about Disney, them not suing the sh*t out of her family is the kindest and most compassionate thing they ever did or will do. I mean, it's kinda the exact reason why they have a "Morality Clause" in their contracts in the first place. It would be "mean" to come after her family for the violation of said clause, but they would have been perfectly within their rights to do so, if they weren't worried about all the negative publicity.

Junkies gonna junkie, I guess. At least they didn't have to sh*tcan ALL of their plans... just most of them.

Just Say No, kids.

[Andrew NDB]

Carrie Fisher's bad behavior in interviews/behind the scenes/on the red carpet surrounding TFA and TLJ is far more entertaining than anything actually in these movies.

[Leo656]

She was such a goddamn degenerate. And proud of it, no less. It tickles me goddamn pink that people put her on a pedestal because they liked her in a movie they watched when they were 5. People's values are just the best. We glorify the absolute best and brightest of people, for the purest and most noble of reasons. Certainly.

[ranger_scout]

Originally Posted by frank_one

As far as I know nobody is bullying Adam Driver, Daisy Ridley, Oscar Isaac or John Boyega. Their characters? Nobody loves them.

Daisy Ridley's character Rey received criticism for being sexist.

https://time.com/4549109/star-wars-d...sue-criticism/

She also talks about how impossible it is to make everyone happy.

https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a3...idley-opinion/

[IMJ]

"Man that Rise of Skywalker movie sounds AWFUL! HAR HAR HE!" -looking around to see who is part of the crowd-

"YEAH! What a trash fest that crap was!" -pulls money out of wallet while talking crap-

"Man Disney Star Wars sucks, they don't care about us, hell they actually told original fans to go away even! -skoff-" -pays for assigned-seating Star Wars screening at the brew 'n view-

"Hell that bastard Rian Johnson called us Man Babies!" -checks shirt pocket for vintage Luke Skywalker figure while taking awkward fast strides into theater, pulling up oversized pants and sipping on 20,000 calorie syrupy soda-

Very curious to see what the real opening weekend take is going to be..... I'm not saying don't see it. In some ways we all deserve to see how this thing that we've been vested in since kids wraps up. But I am saying don't reward Disney for it. They ruin the franchise. They insult the fandom. They take the money and enhance their California lifestyle. They make another one and claim "this time we've got it!" as a marketing tactic. They take your money again.

I'm not saying don't ever see it to judge it. I'm saying find a way to do it in any reasonable manner that doesn't reward Disney financially for what is described above. Wait for it. Watch it with 20 friends when only one copy was purchased. Okay? Whatever, but stop rewarding these people and bettering their already ridiculous lifestyles from this.

[Leo656]

If I don't go to the movies with my wife she throws a fit, so I plead extenuating circumstances, bruh.

She legit stabbed a bitch in the face once. I got enough problems around here on a good day. Glad things are a little bit easier for you!

But yeah. She wants to see it, so my hands are tied. BUT it probably won't be for a couple weeks, at least. And we'll probably go to a matinee. I don't like giving them my money, either, bro.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Leo656

If I don't go to the movies with my wife she throws a fit, so I plead extenuating circumstances, bruh.

She legit stabbed a bitch in the face once. I got enough problems around here on a good day. Glad things are a little bit easier for you!

But yeah. She wants to see it, so my hands are tied. BUT it probably won't be for a couple weeks, at least. And we'll probably go to a matinee. I don't like giving them my money, either, bro.

If you are going to see it as a function of family and because your wife legitimately likes the material then I don't think there's much to do but accept that. I have some understanding as to how that works. It's why I sat through the damn Notebook.

But if you are going to see it because you "like to go to the movies" well.... I mean there's a lot of movies out there man.

All I do is point out a perspective. No mas, no menos.

[Leo656]

I don't think she even gives much of a sh*t, frankly. It's Star Wars, it's an "event", it's a day out. She definitely didn't love the last one, although she wasn't as pissed off as most people. She doesn't argue one bit that the stupid sh*t is indeed stupid. She's just more of the "Eh, it's a f*cking movie, who gives a sh*t" type.

Two important variables to consider:
1. She never saw a Star Wars movie until 2001.
2. She's a huge Marilyn Manson fan and her all-time favorite actor is Johnny Depp. SO, we can safely say that she just plain has awful taste.