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Old 12-18-2019, 09:05 PM   #1101
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Daisy Ridley's character Rey received criticism for being sexist.

https://time.com/4549109/star-wars-d...sue-criticism/

She also talks about how impossible it is to make everyone happy.

https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a3...idley-opinion/
How exactly is calling Rey a Mary Sue or saying the Last Jedi "wasn't a great film" bullying Daisy Ridley?
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:16 PM   #1102
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I don't think any sane person blames these actors for the abysmal material they've been asked to put over. I know I don't. They're all Just Fine.
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Old 12-18-2019, 11:20 PM   #1103
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Here is Jeremy Jahns spoiler free review.

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Old 12-19-2019, 02:11 AM   #1104
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Ok did anyone found out what Finn wanted to tell Rey??? I don’t think it was ever explained in the movie.

He loved her? He’s gay coming out of the closet? He’s changing his last name to Skywalker too?

What?
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Old 12-19-2019, 02:16 AM   #1105
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The general assumption/interpretation among most people is it's that he's in love with her but doesn't know how to say it.

Y'know what's funny? Multiple times a day for the last two or three days, an ad for Rise of Skywalker will start to play on the TV, only to abruptly cut away after like two seconds to another commercial. I swear, I'm not making it up. Weird!
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Old 12-19-2019, 04:07 AM   #1106
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Just got back, movie is alright, I think it's the best Disney Star Wars movie, now a bunch of stuff doesn't make any sense but for the most part you can ignore it and enjoy the movie, well until the end. Horrible way to end the saga but to me it was a more enjoyable experience than TFA and TLJ. I think if we took scenes from the 3 movies we could make a pretty awesome Episode VII.

I think most people were excited in the theater watching, they clapped before it started, they had lightsabers, the atmosphere in general felt good. After the movie people seemed confused as to what to make of it. I definitely think many of those who were high on Ep7 and 8 have finally come crashing down with 9 realizing it was not a good trilogy.

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*Music still wasn't great, I can't recognize any new original tracks that I love

*The MCU type humor doesn't fit star wars very well

*The Kylo Rey relationship was great, it worked

*Finn was less useless but overall still useless in the trilogy
*Why do they continue to set up Finn loves Rey only to ignore it in the end?

*Asian girl from TLJ has no relevance in the movie nd yet still gets too much worthless dialog, as much as chewbacca or more saying absolutely nothing like "of course"

*Chewbacca was handled the worst in the trilogy so far

*Luke was handled worse than in TLJ, I actually liked Luke in TLJ for the most part

*Leia's scenes are awkward, they feel like those Weird Al Yankovic/space ghost coast to coast spoof interview, but I guess they did the best they could, I did like Leia being a Jedi master for Rey a lot

*less time is wasted on dumb plots like TLJ, at least most things here had a purpose, also loved that the 3 got to have an adventure, it's something that was ignored since Ep7

*Why did they bring back Han Solo? stuff like that doesn't fit Star Wars even if it did feel heartfelt

*the space battle final confrontation had absolutely no weight, I never felt any tension over what was going on

*the new characters introduced in the movie are all absolutely worthless and only took screentime from already established characters who needed it
Why add that black girl as a Finn love interest when he already has Rey and the asian girl? maybe fix the Asian girl a bit instead of wasting more time with another worthless character, same with Poe's bounty hunter love interest

*Lando was handled pretty well I think

*General Hex was worthless yet still the best he's been in any of the movies

*Palpatine's return explanation being handwaved through sith science and seeing the clones of Snoke in tubes worked for me and it's just some Dark Empire comic shenanigans but I'll take it, no issue there

*Palpatine's plan of having rey kill him but then not makes absolutely no sense, or how the first order is so powerful but that's been a problem since Ep7

*Rey being a palatine is the stupidest **** ever and makes no sense, I'm sure those who read the spoilers have been discussing it for a while but I was spoiler free, it's still beyond stupid, but this is a full discussion that I need to read about and debate

*As far as ending the trilogy, it kinda does that ok and it kinda brings it together with the old one to the best of its ability, of course it means it is not pretty and it all feels so lackluster, as a way to end the saga of skywalker, it's pathetic

*That orange alien from ep7 is just kinda there in the background as well.

*C3PO got plenty of recognition in this movie, perhaps more than he should've but it was welcome, R2D2 and BB8 get the shaft though.

*The empire is gone, kylo redeemed, emperor dead, celebration, it's just a rehash of ROTJ but without feeling like something important happened

Most of my thoughts seem negative but I do think it was the best of the Disney films as I previously mentioned, it tried to fix things to the best of their ability but even then some of their choices are just odd, swallowing some pride and saying Rey is a (blood) skywalker would've worked better and just a better plot for palpatine to come back or explain how he controlled the first order, something. But yeah disappointing trilogy, movie is ok in comparison with the previous two installments.
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Old 12-19-2019, 05:07 AM   #1107
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It's just so frustrating - and so very, very consistent with their approach to this trilogy's story - that the one thing they really SHOULD have given a bunch of explanation to, gets None. Like yeah, good, way to fill holes between JJ's movie and Rian's movie, but the big "WTF?" in the room is Palpatine, and we get nothing.

Just like Luke/Han/Leia/Chewie getting a scene together.
Fans: "That's literally the ONE thing I care about more than ANYTHING else you can give me!"
Disney: "Well... you ain't gettin' it!"

Same thing here. They are downright spiteful with this sh*t and it's annoying.

It's like I tell guys when they're just sitting there resting in a chinlock during their match. "Y'know what'd be better than doing nothing?" "No, what?" "ANYTHING!"

Like literally, anything.
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Old 12-19-2019, 07:55 AM   #1108
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So has anyone here seen this yet?

I'm pretty damn curious to just see the spoilers at this point, but if the movie is good, I'll probably regret it.

At least there is still The Mandalorian. I haven't watched since Episode 3, but I was enjoying it a fair amount. Curious as to how y'all are liking it.
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Old 12-19-2019, 09:56 AM   #1109
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So has anyone here seen this yet?
Just saw Rise of Fanw*nker. What an objectively terrible movie. Written on a napkin and developed by committee. Dreadful. Even worse, Last Jedi has went up a notch in my opinion.
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Old 12-19-2019, 09:59 AM   #1110
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I'd be curious if anyone actually walks out during screenings
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Old 12-19-2019, 10:27 AM   #1111
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I'm curious, how exactly is the whole fleet of Star Destroyers taken out/dealt with?
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Old 12-19-2019, 10:49 AM   #1112
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I'm curious, how exactly is the whole fleet of Star Destroyers taken out/dealt with?
The lead ship is destroyed by Finn and the other black girl using a gun port or something.
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Old 12-19-2019, 11:00 AM   #1113
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The lead ship is destroyed by Finn and the other black girl using a gun port or something.
What about the other 40 Star Destroyers?
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Old 12-19-2019, 11:46 AM   #1114
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Just saw Rise of Fanw*nker. What an objectively terrible movie. Written on a napkin and developed by committee. Dreadful. Even worse, Last Jedi has went up a notch in my opinion.
I'm not trolling you at all, but honest question. Why did you pay to see it?
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Old 12-19-2019, 01:30 PM   #1115
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I'm not trolling you at all, but honest question. Why did you pay to see it?
Torrent dude.
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Old 12-19-2019, 01:35 PM   #1116
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torrent dude.
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Old 12-19-2019, 02:43 PM   #1117
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So...

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It sounds like Palpatine's 30 Star Destroyers are all remote-controlled (?!) from some main Star Destroyer, so when the Resistance destroys that main Star Destroyer, all of the others just fall into the planet's atmosphere and go boom? It really is that stupid?
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Old 12-19-2019, 03:02 PM   #1118
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So...

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It sounds like Palpatine's 30 Star Destroyers are all remote-controlled (?!) from some main Star Destroyer, so when the Resistance destroys that main Star Destroyer, all of the others just fall into the planet's atmosphere and go boom? It really is that stupid?
In they end they all combine into a giant Death Star. Then it's revealed in the credits that this was a Michael Bay film because J.J. got sick halfway through and had to turn the reins over.

Next week people will be calling for "The J.J. Cut".
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Old 12-19-2019, 04:26 PM   #1119
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I like how those TLJ defenders are now saying rise of skywalker sucks because disney listened to the hater troll star wars fans that don't deserve it. They're in denial that there was no way to fix TLJ, I mean how else would they try to salvage the third film with what was set up?

So TLJ fans and Disney SWs fans hate it and blame the haters, the people who hated Disney star wars hate the film for well it's still trying to finish the trilogy they hated, and now everyone hates the film. I still mantain that with a clearer head it's likely the best episode of the 3
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So...

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It sounds like Palpatine's 30 Star Destroyers are all remote-controlled (?!) from some main Star Destroyer, so when the Resistance destroys that main Star Destroyer, all of the others just fall into the planet's atmosphere and go boom? It really is that stupid?
Yes, that's exactly it and while dumb it's just a recycled idea from past SWs movies so could be worse like..... There's also a scene where
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palpatine literally uses force lighting and destroys most of the resistance's ships, moments later the force lighting can't go against Rey's two lightsabers and dies.

Now that one is dumber.
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I'd be curious if anyone actually walks out during screenings
There is no scene that would make you want to walk out.

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So has anyone here seen this yet?

I'm pretty damn curious to just see the spoilers at this point, but if the movie is good, I'll probably regret it.

At least there is still The Mandalorian. I haven't watched since Episode 3, but I was enjoying it a fair amount. Curious as to how y'all are liking it.
I saw it, I liked it alright. Not good but I feel it at least tried harder than TFA and TLJ in actually doing something even if it doesn't exactly succeed.

Don't get spoiled, I think the reveals probably look worse on paper than how they happen. They're still dumb but it's not that important overall, it's more about seeing the journey and well we finally get a star wars like journey for our characters even if the actual details of the plot aren't the strongest.
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Old 12-19-2019, 04:35 PM   #1120
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I like how those TLJ defenders are now saying rise of skywalker sucks because disney listened to the hater troll star wars fans that don't deserve it.
Which is dumb. Listened to them how? I don't know of one person who hated TLJ who would have said "I want Emperor Palpatine back, 30 Star Destroyers, and a whole lot of 'find the item' quests!"

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There was nowhere else to go. Rian Johnson wrapped everything up and left nothing left to do.
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