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Old 12-24-2019, 01:34 AM   #1241
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Eh... Bond fans. What do you say? Was the Palpatine thing handled better or worse than the Blofeld thing in SPECTRE?
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Old 12-24-2019, 03:09 AM   #1242
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Eh... Bond fans. What do you say? Was the Palpatine thing handled better or worse than the Blofeld thing in SPECTRE?
By that you mean how they handled "I was behind everything?", yeah I think Blofeld takes this.
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Old 12-24-2019, 08:19 AM   #1243
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https://www.cbr.com/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-toxic-fandom-wins/

CBR failed to mention that The Last Jedi did the exact same thing in it nullified plot points in The Force Awakens.

Too bad Luke can't walk in and out of the force. That would be the ultimate fan catering.
What did it nullify? We got rid of Snoke who was garbage and Rian wanted Rey’s parents to be nobody, which makes sense if you think anyone can be powerful with the force instead of a lineage. So JJ retconned it back to her being a Palpatine but everything else stuck. Snoke is dead, Luke is dead, and the rest of the villains were dispatched like the fodder they were.

Unless you think something as lame as Kylo repairing his mask for like two scenes of the movie to not wear it again at all for the end of the movie was worth it.
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Old 12-24-2019, 08:29 AM   #1244
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I didn't really mention about the riding animals on the Star Destroyers. Wow, that was nonsensical. Their whole plan, just ride around on its surface tossing bombs inside hatches? The ships could just turn on their axis slightly and send all of them falling. I think it was kind of supposed to be a callback to the riding animals with Rose thing in TLJ but... was she even in the battle? I don't remember seeing her.
Is it established is SW canon how characters can breathe and have functional gravity walking on a Star Destroyer in the vacuum of space?
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Old 12-24-2019, 09:23 AM   #1245
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Is it established is SW canon how characters can breathe and have functional gravity walking on a Star Destroyer in the vacuum of space?
I thhiiinnkkk that they were still in exogol's atmosphere in that scene. There was cloud cover?
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Old 12-24-2019, 10:03 AM   #1246
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I thhiiinnkkk that they were still in exogol's atmosphere in that scene. There was cloud cover?
Makes sense to me!
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Old 12-24-2019, 10:48 AM   #1247
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That was definitely just "high up" in the atmosphere, not outer space. They emerged from the ice and just sort of hung out.

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By that you mean how they handled "I was behind everything?", yeah I think Blofeld takes this.
In the sense of, there was two or three movies beforehand unrelated, but now here comes a supervillain that takes credit for the last few movies' stuff and becomes the central villain.
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Old 12-24-2019, 11:15 AM   #1248
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I think it's going to be interesting in the next coming years exactly how perception of these films will feel. Once we get away from all this BTS controversies and see the films how they are and how they stand on their own.

I mean The Last Jedi itself is like Kamen Rider Zi-O. It had a good concept (the Luke/Ben drama) but it was everything else (Space chase/Casino) ruined the film.
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Old 12-24-2019, 11:21 AM   #1249
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Nobody will care about the sequel trilogy. Even three months from now. It has nothing to say that the OT didn't already say, or say better.
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Old 12-24-2019, 11:24 AM   #1250
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Adam Driver is the best.
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Old 12-24-2019, 12:28 PM   #1251
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Suddenly.
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Look at the date, when the video was posted.
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Old 12-24-2019, 01:02 PM   #1252
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Look at the date, when the video was posted.
Yeah, I actually watched it a week before the premiere. If she is not a Skywalker she has to be a Palpatine. Though look at 7:47 he got Solo right too.


I wonder about the scene with Luke if Mark Hamill requested that he catch the lightsaber and state that it was something that a Jedi would never do.
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Old 12-24-2019, 01:50 PM   #1253
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:24 PM   #1254
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I mean Star wars has been a toy shilling product at least since episode 6
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Old 12-24-2019, 02:51 PM   #1255
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I mean Star wars has been a toy shilling product at least since episode 6
With Episode IV people were literally purchasing cards to stack up figures that hadn't been released yet.
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Old 12-24-2019, 09:19 PM   #1256
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People were speculating Rey was related to virtually everyone though. People thought she could be Luke's daughter, Obi-wan's daughter, etc. So not surprisingly some people guessed it could be Palpatine's daughter.
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Old 12-24-2019, 10:32 PM   #1257
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The people thinking she'd be Obi-Wan's daughter are idiots. She'd be like 45-50 years old if true.
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Old 12-25-2019, 12:10 AM   #1258
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But that served a purpose. Palpatine wanted to be scarred by Mace to better sell the "I was unfairly attacked, and look what they did to me!" thing, as he did in the senate. What's the reasoning here?
Didn't he want Rey to kill him?
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Old 12-25-2019, 01:15 AM   #1259
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I mean no one will try to argue that Palps is a “good” villain.
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Old 12-25-2019, 01:59 AM   #1260
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Didn't he want Rey to kill him?
In anger, yeah. That was his only way to transfer/assimilate into her or something. She didn't do it in anger, so that went tits up.

Which adds an interesting wrinkle to RotJ. Palpatine now really wanted Luke to kill Vader and himself so that he could take over Luke, essentially.

Also it seems like... Palpatine is like an amalgam of all (deceased) Sith Lords ever. Not really a person in particular.
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