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Old 12-27-2019, 07:44 PM   #1301
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But it's like, "It's a TOTAL mystery and will always be that... but it WASN'T Palpatine."

Which is dumb. Either it's a mystery or it's not.

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Old 12-27-2019, 07:54 PM   #1302
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Oh, it was him. " The past must die...kill it if you have too". Palpatine manipulated the midicholorians thus Anakin is born.
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:01 PM   #1303
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Still not confirmed, they purposely won't say anything because they don't want it to be canon. And as Leo said, either way Rey and Kylo Ren have no blood relation whatsoever either way.

It almost feels like trolling when people go around screeching, "incest" over them kissing.
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:17 PM   #1304
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Isn't it kind of sad to think about it, the 10,000 foot view?

Prequel Trilogy: A galactic civil war. The Republic becomes the Empire, Chancellor Palpatine becomes the Emperor.

Original Trilogy: The Empire is overthrown by the Rebel Alliance. The Emperor is killed.

Sequel Trilogy: The Empire comes back and is overthrown by rebels again. The Emperor comes back and is killed again.

How lame is that?
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:34 PM   #1305
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Technically the EU did the same thing, at least for a little while.
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Old 12-27-2019, 08:37 PM   #1306
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Technically the EU did the same thing, at least for a little while.
And it sucked toilet sewage back then too, what's your point?
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Old 12-28-2019, 01:27 AM   #1307
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A Rose Tico movement.

https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertain...ose-tico.html/

I actually agree with them, but not for the same reasons or reasoning. I'd have tried to save the character in TROS, if only to bring some payoff and retroactive meaningfulness to TLJ. Even if her character was poo IN TLJ, ignoring what few things could be salvaged in TLJ doesn't serve the trilogy.
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Old 12-28-2019, 02:29 AM   #1308
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Where was Jar Jar's movement? His role got smaller and smaller in each film.
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Old 12-28-2019, 10:26 AM   #1309
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It's more that people feel bad for the actress than the character.
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Old 12-28-2019, 03:36 PM   #1310
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So this Marvel-No-Prize thought randomly came to me...

What accounts for Ep.IX Rey knowing all these random Force Powers nobody had ever displayed on film before?

She literally read the Jedi Instruction Manuals.
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Old 12-28-2019, 03:59 PM   #1311
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Maybe she did. The Last Jedi strongly suggested that Luke had skimmed those books at BEST, so if Rey actually read them then in theory that would put her ahead of the game.
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Old 12-28-2019, 04:33 PM   #1312
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So the new Force powers:

* Freezing blaster bolts in mid-air.

* Using the Force to comb through someone's memories.

* Levitating actual people (presumably even themself?).

* Force healing.

* Force video Skyping with someone you're "bonded" to.

* Item transference via the previous power.

* Force Ghosts able to physically interact with the physical world. Even throw lightning bolts.

Is that about it?
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Old 12-28-2019, 04:40 PM   #1313
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So the new Force powers:

* Freezing blaster bolts in mid-air.

* Using the Force to comb through someone's memories.

* Levitating actual people (presumably even themself?).

* Force healing.

* Force video Skyping with someone you're "bonded" to.

* Item transference via the previous power.

* Force Ghosts able to physically interact with the physical world. Even throw lightning bolts.

Is that about it?
Just from Episode 9 alone? Yes. The only other notable one from the sequel trilogy was Leia's only real-time use of it when she used the Force to pull herself back into the ship.

On another note, of the three trilogies only the prequel trilogy was the only one planned first, second ,and third film by outline and followed through with. Partly because it had to end a certain way but it gives it more validity in hindsight. Anakin became Vader in 1979 and Leia was only his daughter in 1982 for example which shows even though its the greatest of the trilogies there were some things not planned out from day one.
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Old 12-28-2019, 05:38 PM   #1314
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So the new Force powers:

* Freezing blaster bolts in mid-air.

* Using the Force to comb through someone's memories.

* Levitating actual people (presumably even themself?).

* Force healing.

* Force video Skyping with someone you're "bonded" to.

* Item transference via the previous power.

* Force Ghosts able to physically interact with the physical world. Even throw lightning bolts.

Is that about it?
Force Healing was hinted at on Episode 7 of The Mandalorian.
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Old 12-28-2019, 06:03 PM   #1315
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It seems like had Carrie now died, she would have had a much bigger role in episode 9.

Each member of the old cast got a major role in movie to themselves. Episode 7 was Han's movie, Episode 8 was Luke's, Episode 9 would have likely been Leia's. I just wonder what her role might have been since it's hard to imagine her doing much more than staying at the rebel base.
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Old 12-28-2019, 06:25 PM   #1316
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I guess I'm just so used to Force Healing in videogames I wasn't really effected by it in the movie.
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Old 12-28-2019, 08:03 PM   #1317
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So the new Force powers:
* Freezing blaster bolts in mid-air.
Introduced in Force Awakens with Kylo Ren, so far as I know.
Sure would have been handy in the Prequel Trilogy!

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* Using the Force to comb through someone's memories.
Isn't this essentially what Vader does with Luke's knowledge of Leia being his sister in RotJ?

As a kid, I assumed Qui-Gon Jinn had this ability in Phantom Menace, as he was the only one who didn't look surprised when Padme revealed her true identity.

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* Levitating actual people (presumably even themself?).
I think Anakin "Force lifts" poor Padme off the ground as he "Force chokes" her in Ep.3.

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* Force healing.
Don't know if it "counts," but this was a power Obi-Wan had in the Game Boy Advance/DS video game adaptation of Ep. 3. Very handy Force power although it didn't negatively affect the health bar!

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I guess I'm just so used to Force Healing in videogames I wasn't really effected by it in the movie.
Wow, Rise of Skywalker really was a video game put to film!

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* Force video Skyping with someone you're "bonded" to.
Introduced in The Last Jedi, so far as I know.

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* Item transference via the previous power.
I'm also thinking The Last Jedi did this.

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* Force Ghosts able to physically interact with the physical world. Even throw lightning bolts.
Introduced in The Last Jedi with Yoda, so far as I know. In the same movie that Luke busts out his Force projection power, although I didn't get the sense the projection could make physical contact with anything.
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Old 12-28-2019, 08:29 PM   #1318
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In the same movie that Luke busts out his Force projection power, although I didn't get the sense the projection could make physical contact with anything.
I like to forget about that life draining power. It took away from Luke's actions and what we wanted to see for decades.
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I like to forget about that life draining power. It took away from Luke's actions and what we wanted to see for decades.
My guess is that hermit Luke suffered from poor conditioning and couldn't recover. That special milk just couldn't work miracles for his stamina.
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Wow, Rise of Skywalker really was a video game put to film!
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It’s like someone thought that starkiller would translate to film.
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