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Old 12-30-2019, 05:43 PM   #12
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Abrams had no story building so it didn't matter. Remember how people were complaining that Rian didn't use the "Knight of Ren?" LOL, and then JJ does absolutely nothing with them either, he brings them back to quickly turn on Kylo and get killed off in a less than 1 minute on-screen fight.

Then we have Maz the orange alien lady, a character JJ gave a lot of screentime to in TFA and Rian just gave one small scene to, what does JJ do with her? Nothing but have her stay at the Rebel base with Leia.
But Cubed, everything you're describing are all basically problems caused by the Last Jedi - not J.J. The last Jedi did nothing to further any kind of overarching narrative suspense or theme. It didn't serve as an act two at all when measured against any thesis or theme that would connect the three movies as a "trilogy".

I mean - the entire second act derailed any cohesion to an arcing narrative completely. Those were supposed to be two or so very important hours of story telling that instead derailed what otherwise could've been a cohesive story. Everything you've described is exactly how TLJ failed and therefore weakened TROS in it's ability to come back from it. Any seeds planted by the Force Awakens were crapped on by TLJ and TROS did every nonsense thing it could to try and bring the three paragraph essay back to it's thesis.

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JJ also had no real plans for Snoke, he just wanted another generic evil emperor character because he had no real ideas where to take the story
How do you know? But for the sake of it, let's say this was true. He might not have a real plan, but he clearly had intentions for the character to the overall narrative. I highly doubt that intention was to be unceremoniously cut down and simply made to be a nothing proxy character.
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