Corona Virus/Dow Jones taking a hit/possible recession

[IndigoErth]

lol Right? Stores probably never stop getting more of it in since it's always a constant need. People act as if it's going to run out and never come back. Damn hoarders.

[TommyT]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Doed anyone have any idea why there wasn't this level of panic in 2009 with the swine flu? Thousands died, even children. We're nowhere near those numbers.

Hey, Andrew, no offence good buddy, but dude, you’re being blind.
You’re being that guy. It’s time to drop the act. No, don’t panic, but ffs, stop downplaying the situation.

No matter what your personal criticisms are, it is, what it is.

[Leo656]

Thanks everyone. I was mostly just venting after a bad day, I definitely didn't expect the outpouring of support. Much appreciated.

Re: Wal-Mart - No, I don't much like the sound of it and never have. I know plenty of people who work at the one locally and let's put it like this, they don't WANT to be there. But I might have to do whatever's necessary just to stay afloat, at least temporarily.

Re: Planet Fitness - That would be kinda like Kirk getting in bed with the Klingons after they killed his son, wouldn't it? Like seriously, that sh*thole put TWO of our gyms out of business already and this will be the third one in five years. Plus they don't pay their trainers sh*t; many of their trainers have been moonlighting at our place(s) off and on because, in their words, "PF is a f*cking joke." That's the unanimous appraisal from every single person I've spoken to who's ever worked there. They went there to do their post-certification internship but it's impossible to pick up PT clients in a place that advertises itself as "the place you go when you don't want to spend any money and don't care about results". I average $35-40 an hour per client; they pay you like, $10. I'd be better off flipping burgers.

I'm already annoyed because if we shut down I might have to join them temporarily just to stay in reasonable shape until things improve. Simply because they'll be the only game in town and I wouldn't have the money for a better place. We'll see what happens.

Whatever comes, I hope it's temporary. If this whole pandemic panic passes fairly quickly and things go back to normal, then it should all work out. I would sincerely like to remain in the industry I went to school for and worked the first half of my adult life to break into, rather than do something that wouldn't fulfill me. But I might have to eat some sh*t temporarily, as we all do.

We'll see. One day at a time. Thanks again.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

If I see anybody grabbing more than one pack of toilet paper when I go to the store later, I will take them out at the knees.

Fvcking morons.

I wish we had a like function on the forums If you go to jail I will bail you out bud

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Doed anyone have any idea why there wasn't this level of panic in 2009 with the swine flu? Thousands died, even children. We're nowhere near those numbers.

Bc the Swine flu had .2% mortality rate. The Corona-virus has 4-6% mortality rate. So 2 in a thousand vs 6 in a hundred.

[Coola Yagami]

I got an office type job so they already started work at home policies starting as soon as this Monday.

It was so fast my head was spinning. Like not much after The Orange announced state of emergency, they shut down all the schools in my state and we went from possibly looking into working from home to starting Monday.

I'm going to hold out but will spend the weekend getting the house ready just in case it gets to the point where it gets mandatory. I'm trying to work out where I'd stick all the equipment.

[IndigoErth]

Not sure any jobs are affected here, but just as fast they've already now closed all schools in the state for two weeks.

Now... locally on this end I can understand. Being that all four known cases were at the university and it would not be unexpected for any students or staff from there to be over this way sometimes for some shopping or whatever... it makes sense. As for areas further away, in the other two less populated counties south of ours where no cases are reported (yet), I dunno, sounds a bit hasty to shut them down too.

[Wildcat]

It’s sad there are people who genuinely think everyone is overreacting. Like those characters in a lot of movies that don’t take a problem serious enough. That’s scary.

I don’t mean buying bulk. One person complained all the shutdowns were unnecessary. Even before this week people were still taking vacations and leaving the country. This was already a well known problem.

If a highly contagious dangerous virus doesn’t stop you from going on trips then nothing will. I mean leisure trips. Ones that can clearly be put on hold. Refund or not.

[Roseangelo]

I work at a military school that is still holding classes and (so far) I still need to physically show up every day.

My karate classes are also still happening per the usual schedule.

And all of the Pokemon Go events that I was overwhelmed with this month have been cancelled.

While I did have to buy some extra food and TP to fend for myself against the people going overboard, not much has actually changed for me.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

It’s sad there are people who genuinely think everyone is overreacting. Like those characters in a lot of movies that don’t take a problem serious enough. That’s scary.

I don’t mean buying bulk. One person complained all the shutdowns were unnecessary. Even before this week people were still taking vacations and leaving the country. This was already a well known problem.

If a highly contagious dangerous virus doesn’t stop you from going on trips then nothing will. I mean leisure trips. Ones that can clearly be put on hold. Refund or not.

Thank you!

I keep asking myself, if THIS doesn't get taken seriously... like what will? Like what kind of super black plague ebola monster AIDS do we need to be unleashed into the world so some of these people actually stop handwaving this and say 'oh ****, this is serious'.

Now my heart does out to people that risk losing their jobs, risk getting sick and are either up there in age or not healthy, or ones that live around elderly folks, those I agree and feel for... but the ones that are only upset because their sports event or anime con is cancelled, grow up and face the fact that until this blows over this is your new reality.

[Wildcat]

Ya. It’s like you really think these major industries would close out of pure panic? You’re just gonna brush off the world telling you about a severe health threat?

[Andrew NDB]

From NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...nTL107t9Hhukew

[Wildcat]

Good to see but it’s still uncommonly dangerous.

It seems some of the shutdowns are set for a month at the moment. Like the NBA will update then. What’s expected in a month? A possible vaccine? I read they’d start trials in April but not anyone can get one.

[Voltron]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

From NPR:

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsan...nTL107t9Hhukew

Did you read this?

1. The fatality rate was initially reported at 3%-4%.

2. The rate dropped outside of Hubei because of increased understanding of the virus and lower population leading to better preventative measures. It fell not because of an initial miscalculation, but because of later efforts to force it down.

So what does this mean? It means China acted, and it acted pretty harshly. It enacted the largest quarantine in recorded history.

Other countries caught up very quickly and started to pitch in with the effort. Germany provided tests to other countries. Schools shut down. Hygienic prevention rose.

Perhaps most importantly: people knew that healthcare was accessible.

Contrast this with the US, where we not only pay more than any other country in the world, but we receive less. This is after the God King promised to repeal Obamacare and replace it with something much better.

Add on top of this that Trump fired the pandemic response team, leaving us with our pants down.

In lieu of this, he put Mike Pence in charge of the response effort. This is the same Mike Pence who oversaw a disastrous HIV outbreak in his home state. HIV transmission, mind you, is very well understood and manageable with minimal effort. Pence botched it, and now he's heading up the national effort to a fast spreading virus we don't know the specifics of.

So your boy is letting us all down, Andrew. Again. Hell, he may even have it.

Dumb ass can't even keep himself safe. And you think we should be listening to this guy?

There's a plague running unchecked through the country, and the man at the helm stared directly into a solar eclipse.

Yeah, panic doesn't seem like an unreasonable response from the masses.

But don't let that stop you from going to a Trump rally and demanding more winning. I mean, Puerto Rico's destroyed. We have no replacement for Obamacare. The stock market's in free fall. Most government positions aren't staffed. There's no Space Force. We've locked down our borders with a handful of countries that can still fly here through other non-banned countries. The President does a poor job of hiding the fact he wants to bone his own daughter. . . I could go on, really, but I'm starting to gag thinking about it.

[Sumac]

I think Voltron went completely insane from stress.
Maybe he needs some vacation? How about a ticket to North Korea or Hubei?

[lonewarrior20]

Man its getting crazy in the stores. The hoard is cleaning us out. And yes I do mean hoard, what else would you call a group of people taking everything not nailed down and I seen a few of em looking at our selection of crowbars in the hardware section.

[Candy Kappa]

Stupidity spreads faster then the freaking virus. People are hoarding flour, baking yeast and toilet paper. And a whole lot of antibac but stores are still filled with soap lmao.
They're also hoarding Paracetamol meds but not the other brand, so we're out of the desired brand of meds and still have the other one for fever and pain reliever but it's not good enough for these jackwagons

Even though, there's no food shortage and the government is saying don't hoard.

My mom is under quarantine as one of her coworkers tested positive for covid-19.
She called me and we had a laugh over how people was emptying the store she works on, like they sold over 3 Eur-pallets of toilet paper that was supposed to be half price sale next week, and people where hoarding antibac and bulk confectionery.

There's something tragically hilarious that people are buying in mass antibacterial and pick'n'mix candy at the same time.

[Voltron]

Sorry to hear about your mom, Candy. Tough breaks. I hope that gets sorted out soon.
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I love how much you think about me, Sumac. I know I'm doing a good job when someone with the name "Sumac" finds me poisonous.

I'd like to hear your take on this, but you seem too busy calling me names to make a valid counter-point. That being a point other than saying "Voltron is stupid!"

To be fair, one hardly needs to be made. I understand that you've never harped on something before. Your calm, clinical and unwaveringly fair appraisal of political issues has been something I've set my clock by.

Oh, wait. You're the one who loses their mind every time there's anything even smackingly liberal anywhere in the world.

Like here in the She-Ra thread!

Originally Posted by Sumac

Its part of the cultural shift to the left, where people should be rewarded for mere existing and putting any efforts into anything is considered to be evil.

Or this gem in the Joker thread that wasn't by any means outlandish or crazy.

Originally Posted by Sumac

I mean, in a manner of speaking incels are losers and Joker is a loser and since left can't into nuances they compare everyone to everyone for even most superficial reasons, but it is still ridiculous.

Or this one from the Black Widow thread where you went off on the left again.

Originally Posted by Sumac

Or as a typical left, you want everything to be done for you, instead of doing it yourself?

Or this one in the Classic Simpsons episodes pulled thread

Originally Posted by Sumac

Golden words.

Now, I wish people on the left would have listened to it, because, they are apparently very much OK with banning legacies of the past years , because, it doesn't fit their modern "cultural norms".

But outside of this and literally every other time you open your mouth, you've always been level headed, polite and credible.

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I think Voltron went completely insane from stress.
Maybe he needs some vacation? How about a ticket to North Korea or Hubei?

Really Dude...... Come on now...... Don't be butt hurt bc Voltron pointed out facts or bc his ideals do not align with your world view/political views.

[CyberCubed]

The worst thing about this is people hoarding toilet paper and all the stores being sold out. I only have 2 rolls of toilet paper left, what if I have to take a giant s*it later today?

What am I going to wipe myself with when I run out? Toilet paper is serious business.

[Leofan26]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Stupidity spreads faster then the freaking virus. People are hoarding flour, baking yeast and toilet paper. And a whole lot of antibac but stores are still filled with soap lmao.
They're also hoarding Paracetamol meds but not the other brand, so we're out of the desired brand of meds and still have the other one for fever and pain reliever but it's not good enough for these jackwagons

Even though, there's no food shortage and the government is saying don't hoard.

My mom is under quarantine as one of her coworkers tested positive for covid-19.
She called me and we had a laugh over how people was emptying the store she works on, like they sold over 3 Eur-pallets of toilet paper that was supposed to be half price sale next week, and people where hoarding antibac and bulk confectionery.

There's something tragically hilarious that people are buying in mass antibacterial and pick'n'mix candy at the same time.

Your stores still have soap? Mine are all out of it daily. We have to get up extra early to get some. Where are you from?

I wouldn't take our President's words very serious either, a month ago he basically said it was a hoax caused by the Democratic Party now suddenly he's concerned when it's too little too late. How many months have we been warned of this? Yet no.