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[frank_one]

Those faces are too much cartoony for my taste.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by frank_one

Those faces are too much cartoony for my taste.

The Sonic movie says otherwise.

[Andrew NDB]

I respect the work but way too cartoony faces. It looks like the designs from "Injustice 2," with some of the faces/heads from the "Coming out of our shells tour" Turtles.

[Wildcat]

I don’t think they’re too cartoony but they’re basically just the 90 designs. They did a good job but they’re not very different.

[TigerClaw]

Its funny seeing people arguing over something being too cartoony or not cartoony enough. They can't make up there mind. I look at these designs. And it looks fine to me. I don't get how the faces look cartoony because i don't see it.

[Andrew NDB]

You guys don't see it?



Forget the accessories. Those designs look a LOT like this, and that's not a good thing.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Its funny seeing people arguing over something being too cartoony or not cartoony enough.

Why? We've been doing it here for 20 years.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You guys don't see it?

https://i.ibb.co/Fm5ybGw/h-WYXHSGxn-...450-no-Pad.jpg

Forget the accessories. Those designs look a LOT like this, and that's not a good thing.



Why? We've been doing it here for 20 years.

Having been with the Turtles for all these years. The 1990 designs always stook out as the gold standard on how they should look. So I don't see how these designs look too cartoony.

This is my problem with the fandom these days. Not everyone sees eye to eye when it comes to character designs. One person says. oh its too cartoony. another says. its not cartoony at all. and it just goes back and forth. Nobody can never come to an agreement on what the final designs should look like. Because at the end of the day. There's always somebody who won't like it. We need something that is definitive that everyone can agree on.

The problem is. There is nothing definitive because they keep changing the designs with every reboot.

[Wildcat]

I don’t see Coming out of our Shells at all. The cartoonish part might be the bigger smiles but that’s about it. I see the 90s movie designs.

[Andrew NDB]

I like the veiny look to the muscles it's just... those faces really kill me. If they weren't holding any weapons I'd think they wanted to come and, like, assault me with hugs and songs or something.

[newfan]

I can't see fans all coming together to love one version given the variation, that being said there was a large consensus regarding the 1990 movie and then the PD I guess.

Designs being too cartoony or not for people I guess could also depend on what tone they are visualising for the movie.

[Sumac]

Those designs look perfect for me.

Simple and true to original movie.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

The Sonic movie says otherwise.

I'm afraid that has no relevance to what you're talking about.

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Having been with the Turtles for all these years. The 1990 designs always stook out as the gold standard on how they should look. So I don't see how these designs look too cartoony.

This is my problem with the fandom these days. Not everyone sees eye to eye when it comes to character designs. One person says. oh its too cartoony. another says. its not cartoony at all. and it just goes back and forth. Nobody can never come to an agreement on what the final designs should look like. Because at the end of the day. There's always somebody who won't like it. We need something that is definitive that everyone can agree on.

The problem is. There is nothing definitive because they keep changing the designs with every reboot.

Maybe it's just your visual eye but you can tell the difference between the designs of the turtles between certain films and CG work. In the 1990 film, they had a distinct facial look and height to each of them that sort of helped differentiated them from each other and showed more variety in facial expressions. With each sequel, you can tell that each costume design went for a more Muppet-esque look to them, where the expressions lessened and came closer to mascot costumes you'd see at family friendly places. It shows in the third film. With works like the Coming Out of Our Shells Tour, Next Mutation, and so on, the design of the turtles leaned towards the same direction the third film did where they looked like mascots to appeal to children.

These 3D sculptures are nice looking but I feel that they either lean towards that 'mascot' design look or something more akin to the TMNT movie which was all CG. The latter example is not the kind of design choice, I would use for a live action movie. Maybe they look more.....toyetic? If that's the correct term? But if you take a picture of the toy models of the 1990 film and compared it to the images you're showing us, you can clearly see the difference in the mood and look of the turtles' design.

Personally I would like a movie that utilizes actors in costumes like the 90s films. It gives a more life like feel to it. However, if they wanted to do a live-action CGI hybrid movie, I think designs that are somewhat closer to what the turtles looked like in the first film could work but I also think they can go for something better.

[Sharman]

I'm still undecided about those CG designs.

But, regardless, any design has to make me believe that
a) they are turtles (of the mutant variety)
b) they are ninjas (i.e. capable of being so)
and also, as equally important, c) they are teenagers.

That last one they always tend to overlook quite a bit.

[TigerClaw]

When they get around to making the new TMNT movie. They should treat the motion capture actors better this time around. We all heard about Alan Ritchson's problems during the filming of the last two movies. His head wasn't in the right place. And he only did them because of his kids. So he wasn't 100% committed due to how he was being treated.

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

I'm afraid that has no relevance to what you're talking about.

Yes it does. Because people complain about the first Sonic design not looking like Sonic and they fixed that. I see a similar situation happening with TMNT if the Producers of this movie aren't careful. So they should listen to the fans and make designs that is appealing.

[IndigoErth]

Pretty decent designs and cute... cute is good. However, I can definitely see where they're wedged in between being "too cartoony" or real enough, kind of right in a gray area.

Obliviously very much like the 1990 designs, though the '90s had the benefit of being suits, so even if they were kinda "cartoony" designs in their own right, they still had the reality and benefit of being flesh and bone foam and animatronic to make them acceptably exist in the real world. While I like these designs I'm not certain that a CGI version of those designs isn't going to look like a cartoon slapped onto a real world backdrop when compared to that... which, personally, is something I REALLY don't want happening. And Sonic looks like that, IMO. No thanks.

It's a good starting place for sure, designs like this and, say, the Injustice ones. But go from there and gently tweak them into being believable for a real world setting.

But for the love of all things mutant ninja, don't make them the size of a small truck or unrecognizable.

edit: I mean if they hadn't went berserk and overdid the PD designs they might have been a better fit for a modern film TMNT that feel like real enough CGI. But we'll probably never know. Leo is a decent real world design in the face, but after that... I dunno what happened with all of them other than the Bay effect (affect?) took over.



edit: While an all CGI movie is not what I want either (stick with live action for the big screen, please), I could see these design working well in the sort of CGI film that aims for more realistic-ish character and environmental designs.

[dragonside]

if they jsut make a movie with the insurance commercial style. i'd be happy.

[Sumac]

I don't know why people so adamant about new TMNT being a live action?
I mean, 99% that the new Turtles will be all CGI, as well, as most of their enemies. I'd take a good CGI movie, rather than another live action attempt with mediocre actors spot-stealing from fearsome foursome.

[The Turtle Terminator]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Check out these 3D fan art images of the turtles. These look like the 90s designs. And these designs can work with realistic CGI. They should use these designs as a template when redesigning the turtles for the TMNT reboot.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUxm2nwX...jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EUsflxhX...jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVBC3OEX...jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVLqzjCV...jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EVGU998U...jpg&name=small

That Leonardo face looks as if he stepped straight out of “Turtle Tunes”

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Sumac

I don't know why people so adamant about new TMNT being a live action?
I mean, 99% that the new Turtles will be all CGI, as well, as most of their enemies. I'd take a good CGI movie, rather than another live action attempt with mediocre actors spot-stealing from fearsome foursome.

*shrug* They're called personal preferences?

I'd rather live action on the big screen, esp as that's the only place we're likely to ever get it. I prefer animation (CGI or otherwise) for tv and direct to video.

I could probably be fine with an all CGI film that aims for a rather realistic look (though I'd still be wanting another live action one), but I don't really have much of any interest in cartoon-looking CGI in theater. I'd probably see it, but moving cartoons from tv to theater just isn't that exciting. I prefer them feeling like they live in our world on that screen.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Yes it does. Because people complain about the first Sonic design not looking like Sonic and they fixed that. I see a similar situation happening with TMNT if the Producers of this movie aren't careful. So they should listen to the fans and make designs that is appealing.

You say this, knowing that you originally didn't care how Sonic looked.

You're making it sound like one individual equals the entire staff. That one person is who realized that people didn't like the original design and wanted to do the opposite of what we expect from movie studios and appeal to the fans, which is indeed rare. Sonic got very lucky, if anything. You don't know for sure if the same staff that worked on Sonic are going to work on the next possible TMNT movie. Movies may come from the same company but that doesn't mean each movie from said studio will necessarily be treated on equal grounds regardless of what one thinks they should do.

Also, saying that fans cannot come to an agreement on anything is rather unfair. Everyone has their preferences and different opinions on things they like.