Clementine Ford "Coronavirus isn't killing men fast enough"

[IndigoErth]

Haters gonna hate. Mostly I'd just like to take those like her and lock them and their male counterparts in a room together, lose the key, and be done with it. Bitter, hateful people are always going to exist and people need to stop acting as if these fringe extreme types, of either gender, are the spokespersons for everyone else.

Originally Posted by TommyT

The problem here is the context and nuance.

Who the hell knows what kind of kids they have. Who the hell knows if their little darlings are heaven sent or spawns of Satan.

Who knows if the dad is a mental midget, or simply a victim of being another overqualified straight white man, in a world that hates most straight white men today. Is he a vet with PTSD? is he a writer? is a he a musician? is he actually a lazy SOB?

Fair point.

Though if they're raising bad kids, well he did half that work to make them that way so... ah well!

If I was like Ford, I might suggest that it's this kind of garbage that shades the idea of a female turtle, gay superheroes and POC over all others. We've moved wel beyond equality, into US-OVER-YOU territory.

Eh... Until male characters spend most of the time being that one token guy in the majority of cartoons, movies, etc, nearly always outnumbered, and this is the default norm and seen by everyone as entertainment for everyone and enjoyed by everyone, not regarded as being "just for women" (or people of color, etc), then no, I have to disagree.

NOTE: I am not saying this is any kind of entertainment "agenda" I want to see happen. But the reverse of it is still the majority of what we get today. A cast that reflects more of the audience is not going to kill anyone.


I mean, case in point... I've gotten a bunch of those Half Shell Heroes figures off of eBay for my nephew. I was rather happy when a group I bought included that April that is impossible to find for a reasonable price. But with so many male figures, I really kind of wanted more than just the one token girl... I had to hunt around pretty good but I manged to find a couple from two unrelated franchises that should more or less fit in scale/style and target age group. In order to have even just three female figures... I had to pull two other token girls from two other toy lines...

That's literally the only props I can give to that 'Rise' TMNT, that they do include more girls. Granted most are one-off or rarely seen, and they don't make figures of them... but their toys sucked anyhow. But it's the only one semi-decent thing that show has done. And isn't the choice that ruined it.