What's the latest movie you've seen?

~~Leo656~~ · 08-13-2020, 01:48 PM

All that is fair, but I maintain his performance in that movie was underrated because it's not like he just stood there. It's obvious he wasn't the one carrying the picture but he wasn't a block of wood, either. He definitely sold a few of the bigger moments where he had to actually emote and project. "Underrated" doesn't mean he stole the show - he didn't, and he never could, not with who he was playing against - but rather, it means it was altogether better than he's ever gotten credit for.

I always thought the entire cast did a great job, frankly. I don't know who could ever be a better Man-At-Arms than Jon Cypher. And Chelsea Field looked nothing like Teela but she made the role entirely her own. Billy Barty's just great at everything. Anthony De Longis as "Blade" really had the time of his life, and it shows. I was so not surprised to read around and find out that everybody (minus Dolph) had done a million things before and after because they're all really, really good.

It just always felt to me like there were two camps of people who went into the movie with their fists up and refused to ever take it on its own merits: Snobs who dismissed it as a toy commercial before it ever even came out and thus were never going to be objective, and fans of the cartoon who were never going to accept it because it wasn't the movie they wanted to see. It's not "Citizen Kane" by any stretch, but 17% on RT is a goddamn joke. For comparison, "Cyborg", the scrapped sequel to MotU that was refurbished into a sh*tty Van Damme vehicle, is rated 20%, which tells you everything about why that system of "grading" movies simply doesn't work. Good luck finding even one person nowadays who thinks THAT piece of sh*t is actually better than MotU.

Sometimes I just feel like the whole world judges things more on what they'd rather have than what's actually there, and thus they fail to see the good in things because they're too busy pining for something else. Happens with a lot of things. Makes me sad. With regard to that movie, at least, it feels like MOST people who watch it nowadays get a kick out of it. Sometimes it takes 30 years for people to smarten up.

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Serendipitously, given our earlier discussion, there's a Rocky marathon on MTV2 today!

Christ, Stallone must've been eating 'roids three meals a day between Rocky II and Rocky III. Whenever you watch them back-to-back it's really obvious what the deal was.

Yeeesh!

Also, Christ Hogan was fast before his left knee went bad. That always blows my mind. He was legit about 320 when he did that movie, by all accounts, and he was still 6'8 way back before his spine got all J-curved. Guys that big usually can't move that fast. That's such a fun scene, it's no wonder he practically stole the whole movie.

Kinda makes you wonder what would've happened if "No Holds Barred" became a series.

But only for a second.

08-13-2020, 01:48 PM	#11
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	All that is fair, but I maintain his performance in that movie was underrated because it's not like he just stood there. It's obvious he wasn't the one carrying the picture but he wasn't a block of wood, either. He definitely sold a few of the bigger moments where he had to actually emote and project. "Underrated" doesn't mean he stole the show - he didn't, and he never could, not with who he was playing against - but rather, it means it was altogether better than he's ever gotten credit for. I always thought the entire cast did a great job, frankly. I don't know who could ever be a better Man-At-Arms than Jon Cypher. And Chelsea Field looked nothing like Teela but she made the role entirely her own. Billy Barty's just great at everything. Anthony De Longis as "Blade" really had the time of his life, and it shows. I was so not surprised to read around and find out that everybody (minus Dolph) had done a million things before and after because they're all really, really good. It just always felt to me like there were two camps of people who went into the movie with their fists up and refused to ever take it on its own merits: Snobs who dismissed it as a toy commercial before it ever even came out and thus were never going to be objective, and fans of the cartoon who were never going to accept it because it wasn't the movie they wanted to see. It's not "Citizen Kane" by any stretch, but 17% on RT is a goddamn joke. For comparison, "Cyborg", the scrapped sequel to MotU that was refurbished into a shtty Van Damme vehicle, is rated 20%, which tells you everything about why that system of "grading" movies simply doesn't work. Good luck finding even one person nowadays who thinks THAT piece of sht is actually better than MotU. Sometimes I just feel like the whole world judges things more on what they'd rather have than what's actually there, and thus they fail to see the good in things because they're too busy pining for something else. Happens with a lot of things. Makes me sad. With regard to that movie, at least, it feels like MOST people who watch it nowadays get a kick out of it. Sometimes it takes 30 years for people to smarten up. ---------------- Serendipitously, given our earlier discussion, there's a Rocky marathon on MTV2 today! Christ, Stallone must've been eating 'roids three meals a day between Rocky II and Rocky III. Whenever you watch them back-to-back it's really obvious what the deal was. Yeeesh! Also, Christ Hogan was fast before his left knee went bad. That always blows my mind. He was legit about 320 when he did that movie, by all accounts, and he was still 6'8 way back before his spine got all J-curved. Guys that big usually can't move that fast. That's such a fun scene, it's no wonder he practically stole the whole movie. Kinda makes you wonder what would've happened if "No Holds Barred" became a series. But only for a second.