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Old 08-21-2020, 09:10 AM   #1381
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Ray Fisher stirring stuff up again. Apparently an investigation is under way at WB. $10 says they find nothing, as I'm rather skeptical of his claims at this point.

Looks like he has a history of pointing fingers, tbqh. We'll see. Sued a theater for firing him in the past...? -

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Whedon should be investigated. He said the most slimy things imaginable on social media. His fan website was also shut down his ex-wife wrote a scathing essay revealing that he was abusive to her, had multiple affairs with other women, and revealed what a hypocrite he is when it comes to women's rights.
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Old 08-21-2020, 09:30 AM   #1382
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Maybe, but none of that actually means he has wronged Ray Fisher. I just smell a lot of smoke around this fire. The Whedon issues are no secret and I get the feeling Ray thinks he can use that to prop up his own issues with the guy. Once the Joss thing died out, he started going after Geoff Johns to see if he could get a bite there, and that's been his current focus.

I'm not calling Fisher a liar, but I'm not hopping on board his train yet, because there is actually some smoke there when you start to look closely. His past with the movie theater job for one. I'm also not convinced that every single one of his co-stars is so cowardly and afraid for their careers to speak out against Joss or Geoff, neither who are running WB anyways.
Why on earth would Ben Affleck be afraid of consequences from calling out Geoff Johns? No, I don't think so.
They were all more than willing to speak out about the Snyder Cut when WB was in a position of clearly trying to get everyone to be quiet and forget about it.
Jason Mamoa is working with John Berg and Geoff Johns on a project right now, which is also interesting. By many accounts Geoff Johns is quite well-liked.

Seems more to me like a personal conflict on set that Ray Fisher thinks he can make into something bigger. Again, no one knows, but if I had to guess.

I also suspect there will be many who are willing to hop on board the Ray Fisher train, no questions asked, because of their bias against Joss's actions and his version of the JL movie.
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Old 08-22-2020, 12:04 PM   #1383
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Snyder Cut trailer has leaked

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Old 08-22-2020, 12:10 PM   #1384
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Ha! Great trailer. Catering to the hardcore fans is working well for them.
I think they saw how passionate the Snyder fans were and thought "yeah, we want passionate fans like you."
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Old 08-22-2020, 12:23 PM   #1385
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Whedon should be investigated. He said the most slimy things imaginable on social media. His fan website was also shut down his ex-wife wrote a scathing essay revealing that he was abusive to her, had multiple affairs with other women, and revealed what a hypocrite he is when it comes to women's rights.
Whedon should be investigated?!? Dude out of the 5 things you said only one of them is a potential crime and even then there are a lot of levels of abuse that aren't criminal. What world are you living in?

Man I can't wait for this generation's nonsense to implode on some of you guys. The modern Salem Witch Hunt's that you participate in can just as easily turn on you one day. Keep that in mind before you fling actionable opinions that are misguided. Seriously it's like you think you are fighting evil or something by calling to dig into another man's life basically over his outspoken nature, but God help you when it comes for you, boy. You can turn the "investigative" microscope on anybody and go back far enough to exploit something to ruin them. It doesn't make it right. I'm not saying that Whedon is "innocent" but what you've flung in your post is complete BS rationale for "investigating" somebody. -pats sternly on cheek-

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Ha! Great trailer. Catering to the hardcore fans is working well for them.
I think they saw how passionate the Snyder fans were and thought "yeah, we want passionate fans like you."
I can't wait for this Justice League event, man. I never really cared about the Justice League in print, but I liked what I saw in theaters, and I'm guessing that this thing can only be even better.

I really hope this breathes new life into the DC universe on film, and here's hoping that we get more great Batman scenes like the warehouse infiltration from BvS!
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Old 08-22-2020, 12:47 PM   #1386
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Old 08-22-2020, 01:05 PM   #1387
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Batman looks like he just dosed on LSD and is now seeing lil green elves everywhere...
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Old 08-22-2020, 03:26 PM   #1388
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Snyder ain't happy people have viewed the trailer early...which would include Scott Mendleson.

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Old 08-22-2020, 03:28 PM   #1389
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Snyder ain't happy people have viewed the trailer early...which would include Scott Mendleson.

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I laugh that Snyder calls his movie for grownups yet his fanbase acts like a bunch of petulant spoiled children. Snyder really comes off like a D-bag at times
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Old 08-22-2020, 03:39 PM   #1390
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I mean, on the one hand I get the frustration. Why even bother having these sort of "release events" if someone is just gonna leak it?

But on the other hand, it's 2020, someone IS gonna leak it... so yeah, I REALLY do not get the point of having these "trailer release" parties or whatever. Especially since there's no Cons this year.

Just very quietly release the thing through official channels without any fanfare. The people who are interested will take notice, the rest takes care of itself. Making a big huge shout about "It's gonna come out on _______!" just promises that someone will let it out the day before or whatever. It never fails.

I mean, it's a trailer, not the entire movie. No need for all the pyro and ballyhoo.
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What I did manage to see looked great. Very much looking forward to a proper release of it. Pretty bummed that it appears that Superman's indeed gonna be wearing black for the entire movie, but eh, I had a feeling that was coming. Everything else I managed to see is super intriguing.
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:04 PM   #1391
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Is every trailer going to be in that aspect ratio though? Is that to prevent people from taking the footage from Youtube and inserting it into cuts of Whedon's version as has been the norm in the fanediting community?
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:10 PM   #1392
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I read that the entire movie is going to be in "Imax ratio" as per Zack's original intention.

There's nothing in Joss's cut worth keeping anyway.

Any idea when the "official" trailer release is? I can find a few with a couple seconds chopped off but I'm looking forward to watching it in full again.
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:30 PM   #1393
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Any idea when the "official" trailer release is? I can find a few with a couple seconds chopped off but I'm looking forward to watching it in full again.
Supposedly right now. At 2:30 PDT.
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:30 PM   #1394
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Snyder looking petty in that exchange, but he's been through hell, so whatever.

Still, I don't know how anyone enjoyed Justice League. It is the breaker of my nearly-religious objectivist point of view. It is truly a turd.
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:36 PM   #1395
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I laugh that Snyder calls his movie for grownups yet his fanbase acts like a bunch of petulant spoiled children. Snyder really comes off like a D-bag at times
I think it's funny that you think that behavior is specific to his fanbase or any fanbase. People are f*cking stupid, period. It doesn't matter what they like or defend on the internet and that includes both his fans and his haters.
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I'm sure he's not in it very much, but I really don't like this take on Darkseid. Looks freaking weird and un-Darkseid like, like some kind of rage monster. He needs his Kirby outfit or even the Final Crisis version, or something close to that.
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I find it to be altogether inoffensive and bland in its theatrical form. Which is entirely what they wanted, so... it is that. I've seen way worse movies, but it has nothing to say and does nothing of note with the parts in play. It aimed very low and settle for very little.

Whenever I see it on cable I'm still surprised by how generally "not awful" it is, CGI aside obviously, but... it never should have been released in the form it was in, it no longer has any reason to exist at all and hopefully it'll be forgotten once the real movie becomes more readily available.

JL's theatrical cut is just "meh". It doesn't try to do anything "special" and succeeds very well at being bland and inoffensive. But man, what a terrible "Act III" to the previous films.

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I'm sure he's not in it very much, but I really don't like this take on Darkseid. Looks freaking weird and un-Darkseid like, like some kind of rage monster. He needs his Kirby outfit or even the Final Crisis version, or something close to that.
It's Uxas, the pre-Darkseid. Duh. They've only been saying that for 5 years. Uxas doesn't wear the gimmick until he becomes Darkseid.
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:44 PM   #1398
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I like Whedon's work at Marvel but JL was very uneven. The fact that Synder's version is happening makes me wish WB had put the movie on hold instead of releasing it how it was.
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You don't find it offensive that they released the film with Superman's face literally looking like playdough? The fact that they cut what was designed to be an epic into a two hour cube for your quick consumption, then rushed it and charged you full price, in order to get a Christmas bonus?

As a consumer, I find it extremely offensive, if any movie is.

What's that South Park joke that goes "**** you, give us your money!" ?
This is the embodiment of that.

Anyway, sorry to get carried away. I just feel like if you can give this film a pass you can pretty much give any film a pass, on principle alone, if nothing else.
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Old 08-22-2020, 04:50 PM   #1400
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You don't find it offensive that they released the film with Superman's face literally looking like playdough? The fact that they cut what was designed to be an epic into a two hour cube for your quick consumption, then rushed it and charged you full price, in order to get a Christmas bonus?

As a consumer, I find it extremely offensive, if any movie is.

What's that South Park joke that goes "**** you, give us your money!" ?
This is the embodiment of that.

Anyway, sorry to get carried away. I just feel like if you can give this film a pass you can pretty much give any film a pass, on principle alone, if nothing else.
Oh, the Superman stuff was terrible. The entire thing was also a giant bait-and-switch, too. It's just that I guess I was expecting a lot worse.

I've also already gotten most of my anger at the movie out of my system a long time ago, I guess. Most of the very strong emotions worked their way out back when it was "impossible" that Zack's version would ever come out. By this point I'm rather numb.
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