Official Justice League Movie

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

What's the difference between "Warner Media" and "Warner Pictures" about?

Warner Media owns everything movies and TV.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Warner Media owns everything movies and TV.

I mean what is the difference in why Fisher wants one involved, and isn't settling for the other? What's the legal difference? Is this necessarily a bad thing? What's the hierarchy?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I mean what is the difference in why Fisher wants one involved, and isn't settling for the other? What's the legal difference? Is this necessarily a bad thing? What's the hierarchy?

I think one is more megacorp with shady intentions towards him, the other is a smaller entity that he has had dealings with and trusts. At least, moreso than the former.

[NinjaPug]

Warner Media owns Warner Pictures. From what I’ve gathered the Snyder cult has championed Warner Media for getting them the Snyder Cut even though that’s not the reality.

It’s really weird that Ray would pick up that string on this. I think it’s pretty clear what side is full of crap on this “complaint”

[TigerClaw]

Basically he trust Warner Media more then Warner Bros Pictures. Because he thinks that the people Warner Bros Pictures hired maybe on there side and not do a completely independent investigation because of the possibility of some bias.

[Andrew NDB]

Ray Fisher released a video.



I guess Geoff Johns was hitting him up, "gloating" about there being a new actor as Cyborg in a show he produced.

[ranger_scout]

Jason Momoa just declared that he is standing with Fisher.

https://www.cbr.com/justice-league-j...th-ray-fisher/

[Sumac]

Plot thickens.

[AquaParade]

I keep a fork in my pocket so I'm always ready to eat crow. Definitely an interesting development, but I actually will stand by my safe, cozy "wait and see" approach.

[ZariusTwo]

Preview of the score by Junkie XL

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Preview of the score by Junkie XL

Not bad... a little generic. Probably more suitable than what Elfman did.

[ZariusTwo]

HBO Max are interested in continuing with Affleck. Ball is in Affleck's court, and it depends greatly on how well Snyder's cut does

https://twitter.com/BlackMajikMan90/...95433987948544

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

HBO Max are interested in continuing with Affleck. Ball is in Affleck's court, and it depends greatly on how well Snyder's cut does

https://twitter.com/BlackMajikMan90/...95433987948544

I'd be very interested in an Affleck Batman series / mini-series.

But I doubt this actually happens, given Matt Reeves and Robert Pattison are already presenting a very intriguing take on Batman.

[MikeandRaph87]

My biggest beef about this is not with Affleck. Its with Snyder. If Batfleck continues it would likely draw on Dick Grayson being dead not Jason Todd. It disappoints me that such a popular character with such potential is sidelined before ever appearing.

The one curiosity of this is DC allowing two different interpretations going on simultaneously. DC has had an aversion to this since the 1970s' with only giving exceptions to Batman himself and the Joker allowed in more than one non-comic project at a time.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

My biggest beef about this is not with Affleck. Its with Snyder. If Batfleck continues it would likely draw on Dick Grayson being dead not Jason Todd. It disappoints me that such a popular character with such potential is sidelined before ever appearing.

The one curiosity of this is DC allowing two different interpretations going on simultaneously. DC has had an aversion to this since the 1970s' with only giving exceptions to Batman himself and the Joker allowed in more than one non-comic project at a time.

I dunno, I feel like if this DOES happen, it won't happen exactly the way Snyder had in mind. It'll (hopefully) be more accessible and less "because Snyder thought it would be cool."

Which, again, I HOPE, translates to dead Jason Todd and not dead Dick Grayson.

But I'm not convinced this is gonna happen regardless of who got killed wearing the red and green.

[AquaParade]

Small part of me wonders if Robert pissed of WB or something. Maybe with a lack of commitment or the comments about ignoring his personal trainers requests to work out. Sounds like reaching, I know, but these things do happen. Andrew Garfield really pissed off Sony and had a chance to be the MCU Spider-Man but they dtopped him essentially for bailing on a dinner with a Studio head. Studios want committed actors who show appreciation.
Again, probably reaching, but Pattinson isn't getting the royal treatment of being the definitive Batman of an era, which his precursors did receive. It's obviously due to the market changing in large part, but I find it interesting.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Not bad... a little generic. Probably more suitable than what Elfman did.

Similar thoughts.

[MikeandRaph87]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I dunno, I feel like if this DOES happen, it won't happen exactly the way Snyder had in mind. It'll (hopefully) be more accessible and less "because Snyder thought it would be cool."

Which, again, I HOPE, translates to dead Jason Todd and not dead Dick Grayson.

But I'm not convinced this is gonna happen regardless of who got killed wearing the red and green.

What if this is a part of the conspiracy masterminded by Didio to prove Dick Grayson is directionless and unnecessary. Then there is shoehorning Flashpoint which makes Barry's should have been self-contained story have the biggest single character headlined event ramifications into the movies to push his importance( but instead does the opposite for me). So its all a product of Didio and Snyder is a Didio yes man! Okay, I am reaching. I was just not pleased at the idea of my favorite character being dead before debuting. Though you are right, an easy dialogue mandate can fix it so it was Jason Todd instead as it should be.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

I dunno, I feel like if this DOES happen, it won't happen exactly the way Snyder had in mind. It'll (hopefully) be more accessible and less "because Snyder thought it would be cool."

Which, again, I HOPE, translates to dead Jason Todd and not dead Dick Grayson.

But I'm not convinced this is gonna happen regardless of who got killed wearing the red and green.

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

What if this is a part of the conspiracy masterminded by Didio to prove Dick Grayson is directionless and unnecessary. Then there is shoehorning Flashpoint which makes Barry's should have been self-contained story have the biggest single character headlined event ramifications into the movies to push his importance( but instead does the opposite for me). So its all a product of Didio and Snyder is a Didio yes man! Okay, I am reaching. I was just not pleased at the idea of my favorite character being dead before debuting. Though you are right, an easy dialogue mandate can fix it so it was Jason Todd instead as it should be.

Yeah, I kind of have a feeling that IF any of this happens WB will try to massage Zack into changing a few of his original ideas around. For example, Zack partly made certain choices because he was hellbent on later introducing Carrie Kelly as Robin a'la "Dark Knight Returns". I have a feeling that WB would only need about five minutes to remind/convince him that pretty much nobody gives a sh*t about Carrie Kelly and that he'd do better to work Grayson in somewhere. So we'll just have to wait and see what shakes loose, if anything.

The fact is, for Zack and Ben's version of Batman to work, it doesn't really matter WHO the dead Robin was, all that matters story-wise is that "Batman saw Robin die and now he's a total asshole who's given up on heroism because the world is too ugly and can't be saved (until he meets Superman who redeems him by reminding him otherwise)." If it were up to me I'd say stick to the books and have it be Jason, because that leaves room for Nightwing to show up. But in the end it kind of doesn't matter for this specific version of the story.

Regardless, now that WB/DC is hellbent on doing the Multiverse gimmick it doesn't matter if Grayson is dead in the Snyder version of the DCU or not, he's inevitably going to show up as Nightwing in a movie anyway.

Anything to get more Affleck Batman is a good thing. I made fun of the casting in the beginning because to me he'll always be that asshole from Fashionable Male, but now he's the only Batman I want, forever and ever.

[ranger_scout]

Jason Momoa has more to say about the allegations that Ray Fisher is making against Joss Whedon, John Berg, and Geoff Johns. He is still standing by him.

https://comicbook.com/irl/news/jason...-league-abuse/

[Leo656]

"The sh*tty way we were treated." Oooof, don't mince any words, Aquaman, tell us how you really feel.

Good for him.

Sadly, when all is said and done, the disastrous making of this film is bound to be remembered far more than either cut of the film itself. That's kind of a shame, but it is what it is. It wouldn't be so bad if anyone in The Office actually learned any lessons from this fiasco, but... I kinda doubt it.