Lucifer TV Series

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by newfan

Not sure many are watching but season 5 is up tomorrow, originally it was to be the last season with 16 eps, now that there will be a 6th season as the final I am not sure if there will be extra eps in this one still or not..

From what I gather, only Season 5 Part 1 is out. Season 5 Part 2 never got to finish filming due to COVID but was nearly done. Soon, they will wrap that up and put that out and THEN they will work on Season 6, which will be the final one. But they said that about Season 5, too, so who knows.

So I gave this show more of a chance, starting at the beginning (earlier, seasons 1-3 weren't available on Netflix... now they are). Beyond the one episode of season 4 I was halfway watching that was oh-kay months back, I've been avoiding it largely due to the marketing of it... which, to me, paints it like "old lady porn" (i.e., TV designed to titillate generally older women, like "Outlander" or whatever). I'm now at episode 6 and am really enjoying it. The chemistry between Lucifer and Chloe is palpable. The lead actor playing Lucifer seems to genuinely be having the time of his life in the role and it's a bit infectious. My only critique would be that structurally, it didn't need to be a "murder of the week" procedural. There could be some episodes like that, but I'd like to see them take breaks (or maybe it does later on? i have no idea)... like, "Lucifer goes to France" or "Chloe's dark secret" or something. I don't know.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

From what I gather, only Season 5 Part 1 is out. Season 5 Part 2 never got to finish filming due to COVID but was nearly done. Soon, they will wrap that up and put that out and THEN they will work on Season 6, which will be the final one. But they said that about Season 5, too, so who knows.

So I gave this show more of a chance, starting at the beginning (earlier, seasons 1-3 weren't available on Netflix... now they are). Beyond the one episode of season 4 I was halfway watching that was oh-kay months back, I've been avoiding it largely due to the marketing of it... which, to me, paints it like "old lady porn" (i.e., TV designed to titillate generally older women, like "Outlander" or whatever). I'm now at episode 6 and am really enjoying it. The chemistry between Lucifer and Chloe is palpable. The lead actor playing Lucifer seems to genuinely be having the time of his life in the role and it's a bit infectious. My only critique would be that structurally, it didn't need to be a "murder of the week" procedural. There could be some episodes like that, but I'd like to see them take breaks (or maybe it does later on? i have no idea)... like, "Lucifer goes to France" or "Chloe's dark secret" or something. I don't know.

I only came in around season 2 so should go back and look at season 1. It does still have the murder of the week but not sure how the focus compares to season 1 with developing storylines.

Agreed, Tom Ellis looks like he loves this role.

Season 6 was granted after a lot of fan request but they did say this really is the final one.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by newfan

It does still have the murder of the week but not sure how the focus compares to season 1 with developing storylines.

The "murder of the week" stuff is literally the least interesting part of the show. Yeah, it enables us to see Lucifer working with Chloe and getting in her head and all... but we could get that in other situations as well.

I think Fox envisioned this as like "Evil CSI" that would go on for 8+ seasons and end up in syndication to where you could almost watch any episode out of order and be fine. Now Netflix has it and they're just kind of... following suit to not break form? Eh. No idea.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

As someone who watched it almost religiously up until they moved it to Netflix, the show was in fact intended as a crime drama focused on Lucifer's "hobby" of helping solve crimes because he is bored of his role in ruling Hell, has developed an attachment to humans, and to Chloe in particular. The murder investigation aspect is simply the backdrop for his interactions with humans and with other members of his family (God shows up in one episode, his Mother is featured in seasons2-3, and you have several angels.) I recently bought the season 4 dvd set to get caught up, and I'm hoping to get the last two when they become available as well, but I kind of like how the crimes often rouse his "unholy wrath", and allow him to show his devil-side.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

As someone who watched it almost religiously up until they moved it to Netflix, the show was in fact intended as a crime drama focused on Lucifer's "hobby" of helping solve crimes because he is bored of his role in ruling Hell, has developed an attachment to humans, and to Chloe in particular. The murder investigation aspect is simply the backdrop for his interactions with humans and with other members of his family (God shows up in one episode, his Mother is featured in seasons2-3, and you have several angels.) I recently bought the season 4 dvd set to get caught up, and I'm hoping to get the last two when they become available as well, but I kind of like how the crimes often rouse his "unholy wrath", and allow him to show his devil-side.

I liked the episode with God. That was good. Also the one with Uriel. And the one where he went to Hell and his mom went after him to save him... really well written ones.

I'm on season 5 now (I was taking care of my mom post-spinal fusion surgery for a week+... not much else to do but binge watch), just a couple into it. I see that they only take little breaks from the police procedural stuff, but always come right back to it. I have, however, just decided to accept it and whatever.

My biggest critique would be Maze. They never really know what to do with her. She worked in the beginning as Lucifer's ultra loyal viper/bodyguard... but since then? She turns on him over nothing, moves into Chloe's house, then moves into the psychiatrist's... and is like constantly unhappy and bitchy and always betraying everyone over and over again. And "Bounty Hunter Maze"? They probably just should have had Lucifer take her back to Hell when she wanted to go and that's that.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I liked the episode with God. That was good. Also the one with Uriel. And the one where he went to Hell and his mom went after him to save him... really well written ones.

I'm on season 5 now (I was taking care of my mom post-spinal fusion surgery for a week+... not much else to do but binge watch), just a couple into it. I see that they only take little breaks from the police procedural stuff, but always come right back to it. I have, however, just decided to accept it and whatever.

My biggest critique would be Maze. They never really know what to do with her. She worked in the beginning as Lucifer's ultra loyal viper/bodyguard... but since then? She turns on him over nothing, moves into Chloe's house, then moves into the psychiatrist's... and is like constantly unhappy and bitchy and always betraying everyone over and over again. And "Bounty Hunter Maze"? They probably just should have had Lucifer take her back to Hell when she wanted to go and that's that.

I was thinking that's some fast binging given the seasons were longer before Netflix took over, I hope your mother is doing okay.

Maze can be temperamental, though she is a demon .. struggling with her demons and trying to adapt, I don't like how she turned in season 5 though.

Are you familiar with the comics Andrew? Just wondering how it compares so far as differentiation.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by newfan

Maze can be temperamental, though she is a demon .. struggling with her demons and trying to adapt, I don't like how she turned in season 5 though.

She's been all over the map since the start. It feels less like they're making her a manic demon and just the writers trying to figure out what to do with her and never really figuring it out.

Are you familiar with the comics Andrew? Just wondering how it compares so far as differentiation.

Honestly I remembering reading that years ago but I kind of forgot about it. I mean, that there is a comic at all. I'll peek at it soon.

Also, a little confused as to why they took away Amenadiel's powers of time stoppage so early on. They made it seem like that was going to be a thing for the show, then he lost his wings... but then he got them back. But still no powers back? What gives?

[Andrew NDB]

Watching the new episodes that came out a few days ago. The "Daniel Espinoza: Naked and Afraid" episode is probably the best in the entire series. Fantastic.

[Slade]

Finished the season out yesterday. Is there going to be a season 6? I hope there is. There should be a season 6. Anyway, I enjoyed it. Think I'll give the whole series another run though soon.

[newfan]

Originally Posted by Slade

Finished the season out yesterday. Is there going to be a season 6? I hope there is. There should be a season 6. Anyway, I enjoyed it. Think I'll give the whole series another run though soon.

Yes there will be a season 6, it'll be the last.

Only got up to finishing the ep Andrew was talking about so far, also agreed with him that it was a good one.
I came in at season 2 so still need to go back and catch season 1.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, they wrapped 6 a while back. I'm a little curious if they intend to break it up into two halves like they did 5, though.

[Slade]

6 being the last makes sense with the way the story is going.

They probably will split it. Seems that's Netflix thing now. Annoying as it is.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Slade

6 being the last makes sense with the way the story is going.

They probably will split it. Seems that's Netflix thing now. Annoying as it is.

Seems like they wrapped 6 awfully fast from the time they began on it (NOT 5B) to finish. It may be a one and done 10 episode thing like season 4 was.