Official Justice League Movie - Page 78

*Autbot_Benz* · 10-21-2020, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

True. I think that's part of the issue for me. It's like the grim level is turned up to 100 on everything. Apocalypse, edgy trenchcoat, execution trophies, machine guns. It's just a lot.

That's Snyder in a nutshell everything must be

~~AquaParade~~ · 10-21-2020, 05:36 PM

Yeah, pretty much. They sure are beautiful though. And the music score. I pretty much just treat them as the audio/visual pleasures they are while coasting on the basics of the plotline. Not every comic book I love has a fantastic story or premise either. Sometimes they're just beautifully illustrated.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-21-2020, 09:34 PM

I'm absolutely SHOCKED that in the scene that showed a timeline where DARKSEID took over the world, things were positively grim.

You're right, scene could'a used a rainbow.

C'mon, guys. C'mon.

*ZariusTwo* · 10-22-2020, 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I think the Arkham scene is much more likely, honestly.

I'll take your word for it since you're the ZS authority on here, I did admitedlly get the team-up thing from 4chan

~~AquaParade~~ · 10-22-2020, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm absolutely SHOCKED that in the scene that showed a timeline where DARKSEID took over the world, things were positively grim.

You're right, scene could'a used a rainbow.

C'mon, guys. C'mon.

I mean, in a world where Parademons, Superman, and Darkseid are your worst enemies, are you really intimidating anyone with a Joker playing card?

It's a dope looking scene though.

*ZariusTwo* · 10-22-2020, 07:41 AM

Geoff Johns and Jon Berg have had their producer credits removed (HR reported it was by their own request, since it's far removed from their own beast)

https://www.cbr.com/zack-snyder-just...ducer-credits/

~~Leo656~~ · 10-22-2020, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I'll take your word for it since you're the ZS authority on here, I did admitedlly get the team-up thing from 4chan

To be fair it's ALL just speculation, anyway. Zack's never said much out loud about it, so until the movie comes out, we won't know. Could be we're ALL way off-base.

~~AquaParade~~ · 10-22-2020, 01:57 PM

I mostly hope for this to lead to a Batfleck HBO series. The Reeves/Pattinson Batman looks utterly fantastic, but it could be it's own thing, by nature of a different medium and different creative vision. Plus, I could eat this stuff all day. Getting sick of Batman is like getting sick of cheese.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 10-22-2020, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

I mostly hope for this to lead to a Batfleck HBO series. The Reeves/Pattinson Batman looks utterly fantastic, but it could be it's own thing, by nature of a different medium and different creative vision. Plus, I could eat this stuff all day. Getting sick of Batman is like getting sick of cheese.

Which is totally possible... just ask my dog. But I hear ya!

*Autbot_Benz* · 10-23-2020, 01:42 PM

Add joe-manganiello Deathstroke to the reshoots/Additional Photography as the twitter people are saying

https://collider.com/justice-league-...source=twitter

~~Leo656~~ · 10-23-2020, 02:08 PM

Well, that answers that. Neat! He's a great Deathstroke.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-23-2020, 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

Well, that answers that. Neat! He's a great Deathstroke.

We haven't really seen him play Deathstroke yet. We saw him walk onto a boat and take his helmet off, that's about it.

~~Leo656~~ · 10-24-2020, 01:22 AM

You need a bunch more? Why? It's gonna be a stunt guy in action scenes anyway.

He looks the part. He's fine. This ain't Shakespeare.

*ZariusTwo* · 10-24-2020, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

This ain't Shakespeare.

That depends on which Snyder fan you're asking mate.

. The way some go on, they're convinced it is.

~~AquaParade~~ · 10-24-2020, 09:05 AM

Had a feeling we'd see him return. Again, Snyder's stories are not reliant on fantastic writing, when it comes to my personal enjoyment, so throwing in a badass looking character for action scenes pleases me.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-30-2020, 04:46 PM

More Fisher vs. Whedon/Johns/WB drama, with comments from Whedon's attorney:

https://cosmicbook.news/ray-fisher-r...-A7yx1a7Uq2dE4

This is the interesting part, to me:

(now, I don't think the "multiple actors of color" part is relevant... it's relevant that the characters were cut, but that's not the kicker)

Outside of Fisher, multiple actors of color had their roles completely removed or heavily-reduced in Justice League.

The role of Ryan Choi, played by Zheng Kai, was cut. Joe Morton, who played Cyborg’s father Silas, had his role mostly cut and reshot. While Zack Snyder included a diverse cast of characters, many of them had roles significantly altered, or disappeared from the film altogether before it arrived in theaters. Karen Bryson, who played Cyborg’s mother Ellinore, had her role cut as well. Additionally, Kiersey Clemons, who played Iris West, was removed from the film. All of them will appear in 2021’s Zack Snyder’s Justice League.

This part:

According to representatives for Whedon, these decisions were made prior to his taking control of the project.

So wow. Before Whedon was even allowed to make a new cut of the movie and reshoot 90% of it... WB mandated that he cut out all of those characters? He had no say in that?

~~AquaParade~~ · 10-30-2020, 05:22 PM

Well we know they mandated that it be under two hours, so chopping characters makes sense anyhow.

*Andrew NDB* · 10-30-2020, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Well we know they mandated that it be under two hours, so chopping characters makes sense anyhow.

It's one thing to insist on an under two hours cut... it's quite another to say, "It needs to be under two hours... AND make sure you cut out X character, and X character, and X character."

*Autbot_Benz* · 10-30-2020, 07:04 PM

I am so sick and tired of Ray Fisher's whining. Just recast Cyborg and forget about him

~~Leo656~~ · 10-30-2020, 07:35 PM

Yeah, f*ck that people with a grievance be heard. What we need is a Yes-Man. That way everybody wins.

There aren't ever going to be any future live-action Cyborg projects outside of the Titans show, so "recasting Ray Fisher" is redundant. There's no JL sequel and the Cyborg movie Zack promised him was never going to happen anyway once Zack lost influence at WB. Makes no sense to cheerlead for a guy to lose a job he already lost three years ago due to office politics.

10-22-2020, 07:41 AM	#1546
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,497	Geoff Johns and Jon Berg have had their producer credits removed (HR reported it was by their own request, since it's far removed from their own beast) https://www.cbr.com/zack-snyder-just...ducer-credits/ __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

10-23-2020, 01:42 PM	#1550
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,192	Add joe-manganiello Deathstroke to the reshoots/Additional Photography as the twitter people are saying https://collider.com/justice-league-...source=twitter __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

10-30-2020, 04:46 PM	#1556
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,560	More Fisher vs. Whedon/Johns/WB drama, with comments from Whedon's attorney: https://cosmicbook.news/ray-fisher-r...-A7yx1a7Uq2dE4 This is the interesting part, to me: (now, I don't think the "multiple actors of color" part is relevant... it's relevant that the characters were cut, but that's not the kicker) Outside of Fisher, multiple actors of color had their roles completely removed or heavily-reduced in Justice League. The role of Ryan Choi, played by Zheng Kai, was cut. Joe Morton, who played Cyborg’s father Silas, had his role mostly cut and reshot. While Zack Snyder included a diverse cast of characters, many of them had roles significantly altered, or disappeared from the film altogether before it arrived in theaters. Karen Bryson, who played Cyborg’s mother Ellinore, had her role cut as well. Additionally, Kiersey Clemons, who played Iris West, was removed from the film. All of them will appear in 2021’s Zack Snyder’s Justice League. This part: According to representatives for Whedon, these decisions were made prior to his taking control of the project. So wow. Before Whedon was even allowed to make a new cut of the movie and reshoot 90% of it... WB mandated that he cut out all of those characters? He had no say in that? __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

10-30-2020, 07:04 PM	#1559
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,192	I am so sick and tired of Ray Fisher's whining. Just recast Cyborg and forget about him __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

10-21-2020, 05:36 PM	#1542
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Yeah, pretty much. They sure are beautiful though. And the music score. I pretty much just treat them as the audio/visual pleasures they are while coasting on the basics of the plotline. Not every comic book I love has a fantastic story or premise either. Sometimes they're just beautifully illustrated.

10-21-2020, 09:34 PM	#1543
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I'm absolutely SHOCKED that in the scene that showed a timeline where DARKSEID took over the world, things were positively grim. You're right, scene could'a used a rainbow. C'mon, guys. C'mon.

10-22-2020, 01:57 PM	#1548
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	I mostly hope for this to lead to a Batfleck HBO series. The Reeves/Pattinson Batman looks utterly fantastic, but it could be it's own thing, by nature of a different medium and different creative vision. Plus, I could eat this stuff all day. Getting sick of Batman is like getting sick of cheese.

10-23-2020, 02:08 PM	#1551
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Well, that answers that. Neat! He's a great Deathstroke.

10-24-2020, 01:22 AM	#1553
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	You need a bunch more? Why? It's gonna be a stunt guy in action scenes anyway. He looks the part. He's fine. This ain't Shakespeare.

10-24-2020, 09:05 AM	#1555
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Had a feeling we'd see him return. Again, Snyder's stories are not reliant on fantastic writing, when it comes to my personal enjoyment, so throwing in a badass looking character for action scenes pleases me.

10-30-2020, 05:22 PM	#1557
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Well we know they mandated that it be under two hours, so chopping characters makes sense anyhow.

10-30-2020, 07:35 PM	#1560
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah, f*ck that people with a grievance be heard. What we need is a Yes-Man. That way everybody wins. There aren't ever going to be any future live-action Cyborg projects outside of the Titans show, so "recasting Ray Fisher" is redundant. There's no JL sequel and the Cyborg movie Zack promised him was never going to happen anyway once Zack lost influence at WB. Makes no sense to cheerlead for a guy to lose a job he already lost three years ago due to office politics.