Star Wars: Episode IX

[ZariusTwo]

It'd be hilarious if all those sources that told Doomcock about the 'veil of the force' timeline retcon rumours were for this.

[sdp]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

It'd be hilarious if all those sources that told Doomcock about the 'veil of the force' timeline retcon rumours were for this.

That always sounded ridiculous and too good to be true but can't say I was hoping it wasn't BS.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And I'm assuming Daisy Ridley is reprising the role for the voice, yes? Immediately throwing out the window her ridiculous "ohhh... I don't think I would ever play Rey again. I'm done with SW, etc.."

If Ford came back (twice!) then no way anyone says no to returning, give it a few years and some $$$, even Boyega.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

And I'm assuming Daisy Ridley is reprising the role for the voice, yes? Immediately throwing out the window her ridiculous "ohhh... I don't think I would ever play Rey again. I'm done with SW, etc.."

She also not-too-subtly implied that they killed her career and nobody wants to hire her for anything now.

She'll be back if they ask her to. It's not like her phone is ringing off the hook, by her own admission. I don't have any problem with her, I actually quite like her (just not the material written for her). But I can see her career having a similar issue as Hammill's, where she does Star Wars, then a whole lot of nothing (or nothing anyone cares about at least) for like 15 years until she catches on doing something else.

Like everyone acknowledges Mark Hammill as a legend NOW but for the longest time he was just "The guy who did Star Wars that one time, and oh yeah, I think he does some cartoon show?" Both Simpsons and "Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back" poked a lot of fun at the fact that the guy basically couldn't get work for the longest time despite being so "famous". I can see Daisy Ridley's career going much the same way.

But yeah if Disney cuts her a check she'll make nice. Same for any of 'em. They got nothing going on otherwise.

[frank_one]

Nah, I don't think she's really so desperate, she doesn't need them. She is still young and beautiful, she can find her way.

[Sumac]

She also can not act, if SW is any indication.

So, unless she get to play in another YA franchise, which were mostly dead for the last few years or find herself a director husband, who put her in all his project for free, I don't think her acting carrier is very bright.

[Leo656]

Everybody in the original main cast of Star Wars was "young and beautiful", too. Yet only Ford had any sort of career in front of the camera until 20 years later. Carrie Fisher was a sex icon for an entire generation, and aside from a cameo in The Blues Brothers, she had a ton of "f*ck-all nothing" for many years as far as acting roles. Granted, she was a huge giant coke addict and that probably had at least something to do with it, but the fact is, she didn't have anyone beating down her door with acting roles. Didn't matter how hot she looked in that metal bikini.

Again, I liked Daisy Ridley, but she's the one who said her phone isn't ringing. Those movies were so bad that nobody from that cast, by all accounts, is getting any substantial offers. If things had gone differently, then perhaps. And it's not their fault, all they did was work with the material they were given and did well enough at it. BUT, fair or unfair, being in bad movies has a way of killing your career even if you yourself are very good IN the bad movies.

If I were her, I'd be pretty pissed. Star Wars was supposed to be the start of her career, not the end of it, but the backlash was so severe that everyone involved is radioactive now.

She's hot, so I'd like to see her get more work. But we'll see.

[frank_one]

She's actually done stuff without Disney and she has a role in a movie coming in 2021. I wouldn't call her acting career dead yet. Let's give her a couple years.

[Leo656]

To be fair, I'm just going by what she herself said in an interview recently.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Okay, soooo.... apprently it was recently leaked from an offical book twhat the plot for the Star Wars sequel trilogy would have been like under George Lucas, and it's very interesting;

-Episode seven would have picked up a few years after Return of the Jedi (possibly with new actors playing the OT characters), and concentrated on the restoring of the republic.

-The villians would be the galactic crime cartels, united under the rule of Darth Maul (who had survived in the clone wars cartoon) stormtroopers and imperial officers would have been hostile to the new republic, and joined Maul's criminal empire. Maul is the 'godfather' of crime in the galaxy, and seks to overtake the republic through criminal activity.

- Luke sends out a call for all survivng jedi to gather to him, and there are about 50 or so jedi who survived the purge in hiding, but were too afraid to come out during imeperial rule. They slowly start rebuilding the Jedi Order, while fighting Maul and his sith criminal empire.

-Maul had an apprentice named darth Talon, (who was originally from the old expanded universe) and she gets most of the action scenes/is the new darth vader.

-Leia is the star of this trilogy/hero of this generation, and focus of this trilogy, as she restores the republic, and becomes chancellor and the end of this trilogy, while Luke sucsessfully restores the jedi order with the help of the surviving jedi, and they train a new generation of Jedi knights.

Why oh why couldn't we have gotten this instead of that horrible Disney trilogy?!

[CyberCubed]

Because it was 30 years too late. The actors of the original trilogy were too old, and that pitch sounds like it should have happened in the early 90's at the latest. It's understandable why they didn't go with it.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Because it was 30 years too late. The actors of the original trilogy were too old, and that pitch sounds like it should have happened in the early 90's at the latest. It's understandable why they didn't go with it.

I don't buy that, cubed. New actors could have worked. If Ewan McGregor can play Obi-wan in a series set close to A New Hope in the timeline (when he is supposed to look like Alec Guiness), properly chosen new actors could be the OT characters a few years after return of the Jedi.

[CyberCubed]

I mean the original initial hype of the new trilogy announcement was that Mark Hammil, Harrison Ford and Carrie Fisher were all reprising their roles. To replace them all with new younger actors (and we've seen that with the Han Solo movie and how poorly received the actor who played Han in it was), I don't think it would have worked.

[sdp]

I don't buy that, perhaps it was meant to be a story for a comic or book or to fill in the blanks, no way Lucas would've gotten new actors for a trilogy, he had already sought out the original actors to reprise their roles. We do know Lucas loved Darth Talon but his concept was more with the Whills and ot go into details of the force, he wanted a new story that hadn't been done.

Doesn't really matter anymore, we're stuck with Disney's turd of a sequel trilogy OT remake. The focus would be to put pressure on Disney on somehow redeeming it that trilogy with some fun EU stories.

Best we can do now is for Disney to get their **** together so in 10 years they can release Episode X (you know they will do this). With an older Rey, Finn as Jedi etc with a new Jedi Order and a new threat that is totally new, you know, what EP. VII should've been to begin with. We had one chance to make an epic Ep. VII but that's now past, Carrie Fisher is dead and they killed the original characters in a dumb way and did nothing new with the new ones.

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Originally Posted by sdp

I don't buy that, perhaps it was meant to be a story for a comic or book or to fill in the blanks, no way Lucas would've gotten new actors for a trilogy, he had already sought out the original actors to reprise their roles. We do know Lucas loved Darth Talon but his concept was more with the Whills and ot go into details of the force, he wanted a new story that hadn't been done.

Doesn't really matter anymore, we're stuck with Disney's turd of a sequel trilogy OT remake. The focus would be to put pressure on Disney on somehow redeeming it that trilogy with some fun EU stories.

Best we can do now is for Disney to get their **** together so in 10 years they can release Episode X (you know they will do this). With an older Rey, Finn as Jedi etc with a new Jedi Order and a new threat that is totally new, you know, what EP. VII should've been to begin with. We had one chance to make an epic Ep. VII but that's now past, Carrie Fisher is dead and they killed the original characters in a dumb way and did nothing new with the new ones.

Well, the article didn't say Anyting about new actors, that was just a bad guess on my part. Probably the trilogy would only start a few years after RoTJ with a prolouge or something, but mostly be set thirty years later.

And no, I won't acept an episode X with an older Rey, Finn and Poe. Even if a new movie is gold, I defnitely won't accept a mountain of gold built on a foundation of manure. From now on, the Maul story is now the canon for me, and the disney sequels are bad fanfics i will no longer participate in. (Mandalorian gets a pass, though).

[sdp]

Ah ok, then that matches the prev information since it also had Darth Talon as the villain

[Panda_Kahn_fan]

Originally Posted by sdp

Ah ok, then that matches the prev information since it also had Darth Talon as the villain

Well, the article didn't mention the quira character at all, and luke sucsessfuly rebuilt the jedi, he didn't become some hermit Kira was trying to find.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Expanded Universe novels and comics, people. You haven't lost them.

[frank_one]

Darth Maul, again? Maul surviving has never felt like an exciting plot twist to me. Using him as one of the main villains of a trilogy? Boring.

[CyberCubed]

Darth Maul was basically the prequels "Boba Fett" in the cool looking character fans latched onto and meme'd them into larger characters than they were and brought them both back from their "deaths" in canon.

[Leo656]

Most people who have read the articles about this absolutely don't believe that was Lucas's plan. It's just more revisionist history.

Lucas is notorious about this. For decades (before the internet allowed people to fact-check everything) he insisted that he had always pre-planned a grand, 9-episode saga right from the beginning, but we ALL know now that none of that was true and that 100% of even the original trilogy was made up as they went along. He might have had a very loose idea of where he wanted things to go but he never, EVER had a "master plan".

This is just more of the same. No sane person buys it. He's had a lot of time to think about what people have liked and disliked about Nu-Star Wars, so he "leaks" out stuff like this to make people pine for what could have been had he never sold out.

It would have been better than what we got, sure. But mark my words, he absolutely was not thinking about doing any of that stuff 15 years or so ago or whenever he claims this was "The Plan". Going by precedent, he probably came up with it last week.

He's salty about all the attention "The Mandalorian" Season 2 is getting and wanted to scoop some heat for himself. Nothing more than that. Just making up tall tales about "Lucas, The Master Visionary/Storyteller", as usual.

Last time he talked, "The Plan" for the Sequel Trilogy was about going deep into the Midichlorians and Luke training Leia to use the Force. NOW he says something completely different and swears THAT was the plan. He's just making stuff up to stay relevant.

All smoke.