Disney unsure whether to move ahead with Black Panther 2 following Chadwick's death - Page 2

turtle1237 · 09-03-2020, 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

There is another option: CGI his face onto a similar actor. Find a soundalike to dub the voice. Try to keep him in the suit and mask as much as possible.

It could work. Should it, though, is the ethical question, of course.

But that like very odd when they did it for Peter Cushing for Rouge 1.

*Andrew NDB* · 09-03-2020, 06:28 AM

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But that like very odd when they did it for Peter Cushing for Rouge 1.

It could. Though it's been a few years since even Rogue One. And as I said... if they were so inclined, they could reduce the amount he has his mask off.

But yeah. Probably a recast is the only thing that makes sense. I suspect they'll just push back Black Panther 2, do X-Men and whatever stuff first, maybe casually introduce the new T'Challa in a random MCU movie in the mean time.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-11-2020, 02:06 PM

So they're making the dumbest possible choice and not recasting.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chadwic...disney-marvel/

T'Challa will just Paul Walker off into the shadows, inexplicably or worse, be killed off between movies. What an awful idea.

*CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy* · 12-11-2020, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

So they're making the dumbest possible choice and not recasting.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chadwic...disney-marvel/

T'Challa will just Paul Walker off into the shadows, inexplicably or worse, be killed off between movies. What an awful idea.

I'm sorry, but that is probably the worst decision possible.

T'Challa was a hero to so many kids who've never had a black superhero before on the big screen! (No, third-tier nobodies like Falcon and War Machine don't count, and no, R-rated Blade doesn't count.) I get wanting to respect Boseman's legacy, but I can't believe he would be okay with this.

Recast, and let those kids keep their hero.

~~Sumac~~ · 12-11-2020, 07:19 PM

A bad situation all around, but I think they should've recast BP with some in-universe explanation.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-11-2020, 11:29 PM

They're absolutely going to do Shuri now.

*sdp* · 12-12-2020, 09:09 AM

They can come up with an excuse as to why T'challa isn't there, have a new BP for a few movies and eventually recast and bring T'challa back.
People weren't going to let them recast T'challa without making a huge drama in the age of social media, it's a PR nightmare.

Recasting now might've been the best choice but sadly they'd just be compared the whole time so I can see their choice. It's hard not to compare, Spartacus Season 3/4 just weren't the same without the original actor, and they had Season 2 to set up a new character in between S1 and S3 to "cohost" in a way.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-12-2020, 09:54 AM

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They're absolutely going to do Shuri now.

Considering how out-of-favour Shuri's actress is at the moment on social media, maybe they'll get cold feet on that.

*Autbot_Benz* · 12-12-2020, 10:58 AM

Honestly id rather see Okoye become the next Panther over Shuri. Change things up from the comics

*CyberCubed* · 12-12-2020, 12:27 PM

It's tragic the death happened. We finally get a black superhero that was incredibly popular worldwide and well received, and then he passes away. We've never had a mainstream superhero movie with a black lead (unless you count Blade but that was two decades ago and most people aren't even aware it was based on a comic), and this happens.

And to make matters worse he dies right when the Black Lives Matter movement was going on too. Man, black people just can't catch a break.

*ZariusTwo* · 12-12-2020, 12:41 PM

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And to make matters worse he dies right when the Black Lives Matter movement was going on too

Can't speak for Chadwick, but if T'Challa were real, he'd be disgusted with BLM

*Autbot_Benz* · 12-12-2020, 12:48 PM

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And to make matters worse he dies right when the Black Lives Matter movement was going on too. Man, black people just can't catch a break.

*sdp* · 12-12-2020, 12:58 PM

Can't speak for Chris Evans, but if Captain America were real, he'd be Qanon.

*Andrew NDB* · 12-12-2020, 03:04 PM

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Considering how out-of-favour Shuri's actress is at the moment on social media, maybe they'll get cold feet on that.

Not that I think Shuri is the way to go, but those people need to not be humored. Not one bit.

*neatoman* · 12-12-2020, 03:58 PM

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Can't speak for Chris Evans, but if Captain America were real, he'd be Qanon.

https://pyxis.nymag.com/v1/imgs/1f7/...quare.w700.jpg

Ah, what a great meme image:

~~Leo656~~ · 12-12-2020, 04:01 PM

Okay, the Miyamoto and Anakin ones actually popped me.

*Andrew NDB* · 01-16-2021, 09:43 PM

This whole thing with "so-and-so IS the character!" and that if the actor dies then the character must get thrown into the coffin with them... it's horrible and limiting and stupid.

Like if Marvel launches their first big X-Men movie tomorrow and people generally like the actor they choose's portrayal of Cyclops, but he chokes on a chicken leg at a family dinner a year later and dies... I guess Cyclops just dies in the movies suddenly and we're supposed to go, "it's the best thing to do"? What kind of sick, backwards logic is this? And again, forget about "honoring the actor"... who is so sure that this is what the actor would want? And how?

I just can't imagine there are a lot of actors out there that honestly say, "When I die I don't want anyone to play this character again! I want it to die with me!" Right? I mean, I'm sure there are actors who might say, "I don't want to see anyone else playing this role that I enjoyed... while I am alive"... but dead? Sean Connery was an ornery guy but I'm pretty sure even he wouldn't be like, "NO! When I go, throw Bond into the fire!"

*Shark_Blade* · 01-16-2021, 09:44 PM

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This whole thing with "so-and-so IS the character!" and that if the actor dies then the character must get thrown into the coffin with them... it's horrible and limiting and stupid.

Like if Marvel launches their first big X-Men movie tomorrow and people generally like the actor they choose's portrayal of Cyclops, but he chokes on a chicken leg at a family dinner a year later and dies... I guess Cyclops just dies in the movies suddenly? What kind of logic is this? And again, forget about "honoring the actor"... who is so sure that this is what the actor would want? And how?

Exactly my sentiment. Just selfish.

*IMJ* · 01-17-2021, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

This whole thing with "so-and-so IS the character!" and that if the actor dies then the character must get thrown into the coffin with them... it's horrible and limiting and stupid.

Like if Marvel launches their first big X-Men movie tomorrow and people generally like the actor they choose's portrayal of Cyclops, but he chokes on a chicken leg at a family dinner a year later and dies... I guess Cyclops just dies in the movies suddenly and we're supposed to go, "it's the best thing to do"? What kind of sick, backwards logic is this? And again, forget about "honoring the actor"... who is so sure that this is what the actor would want? And how?

I just can't imagine there are a lot of actors out there that honestly say, "When I die I don't want anyone to play this character again! I want it to die with me!" Right? I mean, I'm sure there are actors who might say, "I don't want to see anyone else playing this role that I enjoyed... while I am alive"... but dead? Sean Connery was an ornery guy but I'm pretty sure even he wouldn't be like, "NO! When I go, throw Bond into the fire!"

It's all the modern sentiment of exploiting "over sensitivity". Nowadays it's more en vogue to shill to the users of that tactic than it is to produce good material in a good spirit.

Even the first Black Panther movie was politicized in disingenuous ways. As if Blade or any other variety of movies never occurred.

I'm telling you man, there's a generation of fools out there with tunnel vision and living in an echo chamber who think they are the first people to walk their Earth or every do anything. It's a generation of narcissists who all got trophies as kids and it's that spirit that has branched out into nearly all of the behavioral phenomena we are seeing nowadays.

Anyone who can't put weave the spider web together on all of this as one cohesive cultural movement is either too dense to see patterns or simply refuses to look.

*LeotheLateBloomer* · 01-18-2021, 06:44 AM

As much as I enjoyed and will sincerely miss Chadwick Boseman, they're going to have to recast him as his movie got a lot of seats filled. He would've wanted someone to take up the role if he couldn't do it anymore. It wouldn't be the first time an actor in the MCU has been replaced (i.e. Terrance Howard with Don Cheadle even if that's a different situation and that he wasn't War Machine in his first film appearance yet).

Either hire someone else to play the role or forget about a sequel.

12-11-2020, 02:06 PM	#23
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,574	So they're making the dumbest possible choice and not recasting. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/chadwic...disney-marvel/ T'Challa will just Paul Walker off into the shadows, inexplicably or worse, be killed off between movies. What an awful idea. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

12-11-2020, 11:29 PM	#26
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,574	They're absolutely going to do Shuri now. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

12-12-2020, 09:09 AM	#27
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	They can come up with an excuse as to why T'challa isn't there, have a new BP for a few movies and eventually recast and bring T'challa back. People weren't going to let them recast T'challa without making a huge drama in the age of social media, it's a PR nightmare. Recasting now might've been the best choice but sadly they'd just be compared the whole time so I can see their choice. It's hard not to compare, Spartacus Season 3/4 just weren't the same without the original actor, and they had Season 2 to set up a new character in between S1 and S3 to "cohost" in a way. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

12-12-2020, 10:58 AM	#29
Autbot_Benz Hellblazer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Ventura California Posts: 9,193	Honestly id rather see Okoye become the next Panther over Shuri. Change things up from the comics __________________ I respect what FW cartoon did for the turtles franchise but it is the most overrated and hard to watch of the 3 turtles cartoons.

12-12-2020, 12:58 PM	#33
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	Can't speak for Chris Evans, but if Captain America were real, he'd be Qanon. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

12-11-2020, 07:19 PM	#25
~~Sumac~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 6,129	A bad situation all around, but I think they should've recast BP with some in-universe explanation.

12-12-2020, 12:27 PM	#30
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,888	It's tragic the death happened. We finally get a black superhero that was incredibly popular worldwide and well received, and then he passes away. We've never had a mainstream superhero movie with a black lead (unless you count Blade but that was two decades ago and most people aren't even aware it was based on a comic), and this happens. And to make matters worse he dies right when the Black Lives Matter movement was going on too. Man, black people just can't catch a break.

12-12-2020, 04:01 PM	#36
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Okay, the Miyamoto and Anakin ones actually popped me.

01-16-2021, 09:43 PM	#37
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,574	This whole thing with "so-and-so IS the character!" and that if the actor dies then the character must get thrown into the coffin with them... it's horrible and limiting and stupid. Like if Marvel launches their first big X-Men movie tomorrow and people generally like the actor they choose's portrayal of Cyclops, but he chokes on a chicken leg at a family dinner a year later and dies... I guess Cyclops just dies in the movies suddenly and we're supposed to go, "it's the best thing to do"? What kind of sick, backwards logic is this? And again, forget about "honoring the actor"... who is so sure that this is what the actor would want? And how? I just can't imagine there are a lot of actors out there that honestly say, "When I die I don't want anyone to play this character again! I want it to die with me!" Right? I mean, I'm sure there are actors who might say, "I don't want to see anyone else playing this role that I enjoyed... while I am alive"... but dead? Sean Connery was an ornery guy but I'm pretty sure even he wouldn't be like, "NO! When I go, throw Bond into the fire!" __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

01-18-2021, 06:44 AM	#40
LeotheLateBloomer Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3,117	As much as I enjoyed and will sincerely miss Chadwick Boseman, they're going to have to recast him as his movie got a lot of seats filled. He would've wanted someone to take up the role if he couldn't do it anymore. It wouldn't be the first time an actor in the MCU has been replaced (i.e. Terrance Howard with Don Cheadle even if that's a different situation and that he wasn't War Machine in his first film appearance yet). Either hire someone else to play the role or forget about a sequel.