Wonder Woman 1984

[IMJ]

Something tells me I shouldn't do this..... I feel like I do when I'm going down a hole with another guy who posts some disconnected nonsense here now and again, but here goes.....

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I feel this movie has a lot going against it even ignoring the whole covid situation:

- Steve Trevor is back alive. I really think this is a bad move and he should have stayed dead.

Fair enough. This is maybe the only opinion in the post that isn't misfounded.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

- Cheetah is hard to take seriously in live-action due to the connection people will make with the awful CATS movie and stage show...and the whole furry community. So they're in an uphill battle here

This is a stretch observation that.... well.... it's not very cogent. "Because... she's a cat and... you know the movie cats didn't do well.... so you know..... this movie will also not do well because cats and cats... you know...".

Seriously dude, it's two different genres completely. Cats went away silently, Wonder Woman has a good-will coming from it's audience.... and furries? Dude that's only a regular point of conversation here on this weird fu(k!n& community, but the rest of the normally operating world most people don't even give that consideration. Good God, man. I've barely scratched *ahem* the surface explaining why this observation...ugh, brother.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

- Sequel-itis. Sometimes movie franchsies are a one-hit wonder where the first is the best and the sequel can't recapture what made the first one good (see: Matrix movies, or Jurrassic Park, even Predator and Alien, etc)

If it fails I doubt it will be from this as a causal factor. This was one of the more highly anticipated sequels to be released in recent years. I would say a more valid reason might be disinterest because too much time has passed for both the DCEU and this franchise as a connecting-tissue movie.

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

- Trump-isms.

I'm going to try and talk about this one simply for what it is. I think, "Trumpisms" is the wrong word because it implies a Trumpian, right of center message in the movie that may turn people off. Simply put, it's the wrong descriptor.

I think taking it for what it is, and whatever side you fall on, the more accurate word would simply be "politicized" or maybe saying that they've taken a political-satirical angle that might turn some people off.

[CyberCubed]

Reviews are out, currently sitting at 89% fresh with 61 reviews:

https://www.rottentomatos.com/m/wonder_woman_1984

[ZariusTwo]

They just put up the first htree minutes for free

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

They just put up the first htree minutes for free

... and next week, for an encore, they're putting the whole movie up for free.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

... and next week, for an encore, they're putting the whole movie up for free.

[ZariusTwo]

Mid Credits scene revealed

Spoiler:

Lynda Carter cameoing as an Amazon

https://bleedingcool.com/movies/wond...ajor-spoilers/

[Shark_Blade]

The movie is starting at my local cinema in 5 minutes. I got the third seat from the front - shockingly many seats have sold out for these few days. Many customers, that’s good news for the business.

Everyone’s wearing mask and sitting a seat apart. It’s a nice feeling sort of getting back to what we normally used to do, enjoying cinema.

[CyberCubed]

I thought it didn't come out till Christmas day

[newfan]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I thought it didn't come out till Christmas day

It's supposed to be out today over here (in the few places allowed to open cinemas) and some other countries.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Mid Credits scene revealed

Spoiler:

Lynda Carter cameoing as an Amazon

https://bleedingcool.com/movies/wond...ajor-spoilers/

I actually can't believe this wasn't done in the first movie or in one of the two JL related flicks.

[Andrew NDB]

Reading a lot of spoilery reviews. They all seem to confirm "the Trump thing."

[Leo656]

Which in turn explains the high praise.

Like how Birds of Prey was totally amazeballs, you guys, on account'a how "woke" and Female Empowerment-y it was... and totally not a piece of junk that told a lousy story did a huge disservice to every single character.

As long as you make "the right points" - which ironically are The Left Points - that's all that really matters anymore.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Which in turn explains the high praise.

Like how Birds of Prey was totally amazeballs, you guys, on account'a how "woke" and Female Empowerment-y it was... and totally not a piece of junk that told a lousy story did a huge disservice to every single character.

As long as you make "the right points" - which ironically are The Left Points - that's all that really matters anymore.

Yep! Whether it's "Star Trek: Discovery" or "Last Jedi" or "Ghostbusters 2016," you'll see people poke in and maybe even make fun of a thing... then they'll be like (or maybe they won't even say it), "Hang on, I'll need to see how I feel about this" before going on to read a bunch of woke websites, then coming back with, "This {project} is awesome and important and immune from criticism! I didn't like it at first but now I'm 200% sold!"

[sdp]

You could argue the same when it has a woke message but is genuinely good. I've seen great stuff bashed because it's "SJW".
I get your point and agree, it happens more on the SJW side but it's now happening on both ends. Apparently having a good female or black character automatically means it's SJW and trash to a lot of people

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yep! Whether it's "Star Trek: Discovery" or "Last Jedi" or "Ghostbusters 2016," you'll see people poke in and maybe even make fun of a thing... then they'll be like (or maybe they won't even say it), "Hang on, I'll need to see how I feel about this" before going on to read a bunch of woke websites, then coming back with, "This {project} is awesome and important and immune from criticism! I didn't like it at first but now I'm 200% sold!"

As I said elsewhere, this place got a lot better - with a lot less fighting and hostility - when all the "I like this thing even more BECAUSE it pisses people off, blah blah Salty Tears blah blah" people left.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Reading a lot of spoilery reviews. They all seem to confirm "the Trump thing."

You mind posting some links? I looked a few days ago and didn't find anything yet.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Which in turn explains the high praise.

Like how Birds of Prey was totally amazeballs, you guys, on account'a how "woke" and Female Empowerment-y it was... and totally not a piece of junk that told a lousy story did a huge disservice to every single character.

Its pretty sad when Arrow and the Justice League Cartoons did Black Canary and Huntress better than a major motion picture.

[CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

Its pretty sad when Arrow and the Justice League Cartoons did Black Canary and Huntress better than a major motion picture.

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

That's some harsh shade, bro, at least the "Arrow" part.

[Autbot_Benz]

Originally Posted by CylonsKlingonsDaleksOhMy

Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn.

That's some harsh shade, bro, at least the "Arrow" part.

ya and its coming from someone who hated Arrow's Black Canary and I didn't think it could get worse. I saw the BOP Trailer it got worse

[TMNTFanatic4Life]

Arrow cared more about "Olicity" then doing anything legit with the Black Canary character. Yes, I'm still bitter about that lol.

At least they tried at the end to redeem KC's Black Siren character but it was a little too late. I mean I think it quite obvious what that show runners were more concerned it. You would think a show about Green Arrow would build up a pretty good Black Canary and not be so concerned with pleasing the Olicity shippers but whatever. And some will say Katie Cassidy sucked on the show but I say she was more than capable of pulling off the BC character if given the proper material. They never did until a few episodes midway through season 4 and then....they off her, smh.

I know, I know but like I said...bitter lol