New Ghostbusters movie in OG movie universe Jason Reitman directing 2020

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Apparently, in most cases it simply is NOT that serious... unless you're really old, really fat, smoke cigarettes, and/or heavily abuse opiate medication.

Even the "experts" telling everyone to be terrified because "There's a lot we don't know", if you really pay attention to who's been hit hardest by this, that's what they say.

So again... don't be fat, don't smoke, don't take Oxy's. Apparently, do All That and even if you get sick, you'll be alright in about ten days. Sounds like good odds.

Meanwhile, I had "just" a cold and I couldn't get rid of it for six weeks. Wasn't a really horrible cold, but it refused to leave. And there's a part of my brain that isn't sure if I'd trade places with my niece; she had COVID, but got over it in five days and now she's perfectly fine. So if I had to choose between six weeks of a cold, OR being too sick to move at all for a few days, but ONLY a few days... huh. That's a thinker. Like, I DON'T want COVID, but... at the same time, 5 days vs. 5+ weeks. I don't know.

But yeah, I can totally believe Andrew honestly feels like it's "not that serious", because even for most people who catch it, it isn't. Statistically, like 1% of people who've had it had it "bad". People are just afraid of "The Unknown", afraid that they'll end up being one of the 1%. And that's reasonable, but it's not reasonable to take that and project it into a huge thing.

At the end of the day, you're still more statistically likely to get killed by a drunk driver than you are from this virus. And yet people still drive. Thus, I think 20 or so people can handle sitting in a movie theater several feet away from each other. Again, think gyms. Think Walmart. Closer quarters, more people, no outbreaks. You've gotta look past the fear and the "unknown" and look at what we DO know in the grand scheme of it all.

Well being overweight, smoking and improper drug use will affect your overall health in general. Not just a COVID19 thing.

I think it’s worth bringing up Sekou Smith (An NBA journalist) recently died from the virus and he was only 48. They didn’t mention any specifics but he was a regular on NBAtv and all around healthy as far as people knew. He had even lost weight sometime before. He was on tv talking about the latest news and then like 2 weeks later he died.

That should tell people how serious it is and can be. You just don’t know how it’ll affect you. Nobody is in absolute perfect health. Even if you don’t die it might have lasting effects on your body.

I guess I should mention a relative of mine also died from it last year. They were older but still. People SHOULD take it seriously.

I haven’t read up on public statistics or anything like that but sometimes I wonder...did it ever occur to people the shutdowns and quarantines actually helped and despite how bad it is even more people would have died if we kept everything open?

Looking at the numbers for AZ (which are probably off but still ballpark). The cases - deaths might seem like ok odds but the fact this is all a thing means it’s serious. It should not be about weighing odds. This is not what should what motivate people. There’s a virus everywhere.

A theater probably is cleaner than the grocery store but again you don’t know who’s going. Social Distancing is good and all but the whole 6 feet apart still seems short. You want me to cough or sneeze near you even at 10 feet?

[Leo656]

Yeah. Like the flu. Or pneumonia. Or any other disease that only kills 1% of the people who contract it.

"Might kill you" sounds pretty serious. Imagine if all you did was walk outside in the rain, and two weeks later you were dead? It happens! And there's absolutely nothing you can do about it. Theoretically, every time it rains, you're gambling with your life just by walking to the mailbox.

And yet, SOMEhow, life has gone on up until this point without people up and deciding that all of a sudden they were gonna wrap themselves in bubble wrap and hide under their beds.

This is just "The New Hotness". We still don't know why people who were otherwise healthy a week before up and die sometimes from flu or pneumonia, but we're not living in crippling fear of those things... even though those things are just about as likely to randomly kill you - or NOT kill you - if you get them, as COVID. We know more about them, sure... but they can still randomly kill You while leaving everyone else in your house completely unaffected. Why does this happen? Nobody knows! Crazy, right?

A year ago, we knew nothing, so the whole "hide under your bed" thing made more sense. But now, the more we learn, the more people insist "I'm still a-scared!" And it's like dude, at some point you gotta take this for what it is. "It might kill you, but it PROBABLY won't." Imagine the guy who went out of his way to avoid COVID at all costs, and then dropped dead of a common flu bug. It's had to have happened, by this point. I'm sure he felt absolutely cheated by the injustice of it all, when he took his last breath, given how MOST people don't die from the flu, but some do and them's the breaks. But do you think he was all, "Man, I was living in crippling fear of the wrong ailment"? I kinda doubt it.

My Dad died of a common cold. He was up walking around, laughing it off. Then one night he coughed in his sleep, his heart seized, and he died, just like that. From a cold. I mean sh*t happens, man. It's not like before that he lived his life in crippling fear of catching cold, and it's not like I live in fear of it now after having my father die that way. Sh*t happens. That's all it was, that's all it is. Sh*t. F*cking. Happens.

People die from COVID. They die from the flu. They die from pneumonia. And they die from the common f*cking cold. And nobody really knows why, they just know it generally doesn't happen and that we're all lucky it doesn't happen more often. But at the end of the day, MOST of the time, they don't.

That's how people should look at these things. "MOST of the time, they don't." Not "1% of the time, they die." That's the wrong way to look at it. "MOST of the time, They Don't."

You don't decide if you get sick or not, and you don't decide if you die from that sickness or not. That's 100% on "God" or fate or whatever anyone wants to call it. Precautions? Sure, that's common sense. But being completely paralyzed by fear because something "might" happen? Holy sh*t, people shouldn't live that way about ANY goddamn thing. But especially not something they can't control ANY damn way. I've been sick enough in my life - way more than most people have - to know one thing for certain, and that's that YOU ain't in charge of that. I've had sick people cough directly on me, and not gotten sick, and I've avoided sick people like lepers and washed my hands obsessively, and still gotten crazy sick.

If it's all a craphsoot at the best of times, in spite of all precautions, then it's just plain stupid to be crazy afraid. It makes no more sense than never leaving your house because a plane might fall on your head. It might, but it PROBABLY won't, and that's the best we ever get in this life. There are no promises or guarantees.

Common sense precautions? Fair enough. "I'm never leaving my house or being around people again for as long as I live until someone tells me there's a 0% chance of getting sick"? Alright, John Travolta, enjoy living in that plastic bubble, because you're gonna be waiting a long time, that's all I can say. Might be better off making peace with the fact that literally every time you walk out your front door it's a roll of the dice, and that this thing is just One More Variable that we have to learn to live alongside of.

In addition to the million OTHER things that "MIGHT kill us, but PROBABLY won't."

[Wildcat]

Ive had pneumonia and felt really awful. I didn’t need to be hospitalized but I went to the ER and that’s where they told me. I guess it was a mild case. This was like 8 years ago.

I know there’s many dangerous things. Honestly I don’t like driving either. Given everything in your way I’m surprised the whole format works at all but that’s a different subject.

Anyway my point is I think people should take the virus seriously because it’s still very new and the cases/deaths are still high. It’s not about living in fear. It’s about acknowledging that it’s too early to call it just another flu.

I don’t wanna turn this into another virus thread so I’m gonna post this.
https://ghostbustersnews.com/2021/01...p-for-auction/

I thought these were interesting. Especially the Marshmallow Man concepts. They’re funny but I’m glad he turned out the way he did.

[Leo656]

All I can say in closing is that a person can "take it seriously" and take REASONABLE precautions without insisting the whole world should lock its doors or else the big bad virus might get 'em. Which is how a lot of people are talking/acting, in spite of statistical evidence that suggests "shutdowns" don't do much, if anything.

By now, I've known enough people who've had it to get me to "take it seriously". And they've all bounced back well enough to make me feel a little bit less worried about it. I might get it - Fauci at one point said that everybody is gonna get it eventually, can't be avoided, and I believe that - and that's on "God", and I might get better OR I might die. And that's all on "God", too. All I can do is wear a mask, scrub often, and not go out too much. That's 100% of what I can control. And I did all that and got sick for six weeks ANYway. Which means it honestly doesn't matter.

I don't wanna get sick. I don't want anybody to get sick. Not with COVID, not even with the sniffles. It sucks, it's lousy, I wouldn't wish it on anyone. I've had it all, man, I've literally been coughing up blood and thinking I was legit gonna die. Not lately, thank God, but multiple times in my life. Enough to know how it feels, and enough to know that I definitely never wanna feel that way again. I do what I can to avoid that.

But I always have. And it really doesn't do anything. When it's your turn, it's Your Turn. I went twelve straight years of school and never missed LESS than 80 days, out sick, every single year. They used to send people from the school to check on me, thinking I was being chained to a radiator or beaten by my parents or something, because "Nobody gets sick that much", except I actually did. Well into adulthood, I'd get sick so bad, sometimes for weeks, that I actually thought about killing myself sometimes because it just felt like it was never gonna end. There was a certain point where my whole life was literally "Sick for three weeks, better for a week, sick again for three weeks, etc. etc." and I couldn't bear the thought of living that way for another 60 or 70 years. At some point, that cycle of illness stopped, and thankfully it's been years since then and I rarely get sick at all anymore. How? Why? No idea. But I absolutely understand how people feel, I don't want anyone to think I don't. If anyone understands, it's me.

But it's having gone through all that for so long that makes me all too aware that It Ain't Up To You. Getting sick, getting better, or god forbid dropping dead. It just plain ain't up to you.

So I take the precautions, do what I can to avoid it. That's what people ought to do, sure. But I also think we should allow 10-20 people in a movie theater if we're gonna cram 500 of them into a Walmart. I think if 100 people can be inside at Red Lobster "safely" eating a meal, I think we can let 20 people sit in the dark and eat popcorn watching a movie.

I'm literally "afraid" of getting sick every time I go out of my house, because that's just how my life went. But it's also why I don't sell that fear. It's always there, but I refuse to let it be a dominant factor in my behavior or decisions. I'd never do anything, otherwise. That's what I mean by "living in fear" or not. You can acknowledge something as a Very Real Factor Of Risk, but still allow for the fact that you have a 90% or better chance of being Perfectly Fine regardless.

I, personally, would prefer to see this movie in a theater. I feel safe enough at the gym, at Walmart, and at Red Lobster and other places, as well as sharing a locker room with 30 people crammed into it in the middle of winter and 50 people in the audience, also tightly-packed, since so far nobody around me has come away from those settings with any ill effect. And so I personally wouldn't have a great deal of fear sitting 10 feet away from someone in a movie theater, either. I don't personally feel any more threatened by the guy 10-15 feet away from me eating popcorn, than I do by the family at the next table at Red Lobster, or the guy on the weight machine next to the one I'm using. But because OTHER people choose to be controlled by their fear, I probably won't be "allowed" to see this movie, or a lot of other movies, in a theater the way they were meant to be seen and the way I'd prefer to see them.

Again, I'm not saying "Blow the doors open and welcome in the masses." Statistics show that most people don't feel ready to go out, yet. And okay, then. But if theaters want to open on a limited basis and allow 20-30 people into a screening room on a staggered viewing schedule, with appropriate seating and time in between showings for cleaning? That should be Perfectly Fine. Places with far fewer precautions are doing Perfectly Fine and operating "safely".

And to bring it back to where we started and maybe wrap up this side-conversation, I'm with Andrew in that I think that it's a little bit absurd that such a scenario as suggested is NOT fine. And it's only "not fine" because too many people are letting their fear control them to a somewhat irrational degree. Again, "Reasonable" Precaution. If the Precautions work, then there's no reason for Fear. If the Precautions DON'T work, well... then I wonder what the whole entire point was to begin with.

Anyways, that's about all I have to say about it. But I wanted to make sure it was understood, I do "take things seriously" and I do understand the general state of thinking behind this entire ordeal. So I don't want it to seem like it's just ignorance or insensitivity. What it really is, is I've Been There, Done That, and I refuse to let myself dwell on "What If It Happens Again?" because if I did, I'd have absolutely nothing to live for anyway.

No reason to reply to any of this, I just wanted to be perfectly clear. Feel free to carry on with Regularly Scheduled Conversation at your leisure.

[Wildcat]

Ya I understand what you mean. I was really talking about people who keep going out and about shopping, entertainment, no mask etc. I believe in safety measures but I don’t view them as being able to resume everything.

About Ghostbusters I was wondering how Janine would be part of the story. She probably stayed in touch since they were friends but what’s she gonna do in this situation? Must not have stayed with Louis. Although I wouldn’t be surprised if Rick Moranis appeared.

[Coola Yagami]

She could always use a throwaway line like 'I left Louis at home' or whatever, or her name could not be Janine Tully. It could still reference him without needing the actor to appear if Rick decides to skip it. Possibly her name being Janine Tully would be the fastest and easiest way to go.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Given how wholeheartedly everybody embraced the whole "living in fear" gimmick, I'd say that everything is f*cked. So long as there's a 1% chance of catching it, nobody's gonna feel safe enough to let things go back to normal. And it's NOT going away, vaccine or no vaccine, so... yeah.

You need to see Russia. At least in Moscow, you'd barely figure out there is a virus going on, if it wasn't for masks and occasional people in gloves. Pretty much everyone here tired from virus and barely support any stuff proposed by government. And right now we are starting to lift quarantine measures...right when number of infected here is still 3/4 of the peak value from couple of weeks back.

[Luke795]

Extreme Ghostbusters is also on the Ghostbusters Youtube channel.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by Luke795

Extreme Ghostbusters is also on the Ghostbusters Youtube channel.

It’s just the intro and pilot episode.

Other places have bits and incomplete episodes. Sucks.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

It’s just the intro and pilot episode.

Other places have bits and incomplete episodes. Sucks.

They should have at least have had the crossover episode that brought back the OGs.

[Shark_Blade]

And it’s no where to be streamed nor buy digitally.

“A two-disc DVD set of the series was released in Australia on June 2, 2009[24] and in the United Kingdom on June 15 the same year,[25] along with Germany, Italy and the Netherlands, all containing the first thirteen episodes of the series, with the UK releases being slightly edited to remove scenes of horror and threat.

There is currently no plan to release the series on DVD in the United States.“

Sounds like they’re inviting piracy but I reckon even that version has crappy quality. Sigh

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Sumac

You need to see Russia. At least in Moscow, you'd barely figure out there is a virus going on, if it wasn't for masks and occasional people in gloves. Pretty much everyone here tired from virus and barely support any stuff proposed by government. And right now we are starting to lift quarantine measures...right when number of infected here is still 3/4 of the peak value from couple of weeks back.

No disrespect intended, but I am quite glad to stay where I am.

Good luck, though. I'm alright. Something tells me they wouldn't "get" my humor, Over There.

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

She could always use a throwaway line like 'I left Louis at home' or whatever, or her name could not be Janine Tully. It could still reference him without needing the actor to appear if Rick decides to skip it. Possibly her name being Janine Tully would be the fastest and easiest way to go.

Ya they could do something like that. Not sure making them a couple was that important to Jason Reitman though. I meant the story. What will her interaction be with the family and original ghostbusters?

Maybe could have continued to work for Ray at his bookstore or something.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

Good luck, though. I'm alright. Something tells me they wouldn't "get" my humor, Over There.

They probably would. You just... wouldn't want to post a video on YouTube over there about anything remotely political or something.

[Leo656]

Eh... I'm still an "85 Degrees and Sunny" kinda guy.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leo656

No disrespect intended, but I am quite glad to stay where I am.

Good luck, though. I'm alright. Something tells me they wouldn't "get" my humor, Over There.

Hahaha, no problems.
Though, a lot of people here into this quite a sardonic, black humor kind of stuff.
Also, most people here laugh about SJW scum, so, if anything, you'd find a lot of understanding here.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

It’s just the intro and pilot episode

Episodes are being added every Wednesday

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Luke795

Extreme Ghostbusters is also on the Ghostbusters Youtube channel.

For those who have watched Extreme Ghostbusters, what did you think of it? I remember coming across it when it was originally airing back in the 90s (think it was sometime in '97) and was surprised by it since it wasn't the original group and never actually got around to giving the show a fair shot. I hadn't watched Real Ghostbusters in years by that point and in its later years, I wasn't watching anyway since it had become unbearable and tired. I was never a fan of the "Slimer" show. I hear, though for Extreme Ghostbusters, they used Slimer similarly to how he was in the earlier Real Ghostbusters eps and for all of Extreme, they never had Slimer overtake it and overshadow the main cast.

What are the pros/cons of Extreme Ghostbusters?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

all containing the first thirteen episodes of the series, with the UK releases being slightly edited to remove scenes of horror and threat.

Sorry. This kind of stuff is why my hair stands on end anytime someone begins to say "W-w-well, the UK! We should be like them!"

Removing "horror and threat"? From a ghost-busting thing? Shesus. What's left?

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by ssjup81

For those who have watched Extreme Ghostbusters, what did you think of it? I remember coming across it when it was originally airing back in the 90s (think it was sometime in '97) and was surprised by it since it wasn't the original group and never actually got around to giving the show a fair shot. I hadn't watched Real Ghostbusters in years by that point and in its later years, I wasn't watching anyway since it had become unbearable and tired. I was never a fan of the "Slimer" show. I hear, though for Extreme Ghostbusters, they used Slimer similarly to how he was in the earlier Real Ghostbusters eps and for all of Extreme, they never had Slimer overtake it and overshadow the main cast.

What are the pros/cons of Extreme Ghostbusters?

It wasn't bad, but I felt it was less memorable than original. Aside from Kylie (sic?) seeding goth girl fetish in myself, I can't remember much about it.