Have you ever been personally offended by a piece of media so far?

[sdp]

Originally Posted by FredWolfLeonardo

I am offended by all forms of media that advocate degeneracy and immorality.

That's my favorite type of media.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

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To her defense you get outraged just as much as Papenbrook.

[ABrown]

No, not even close.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Wildcat

Honestly...once. The Family Guy episode where Carter has the cure for cancer. Before everyone gets upset I love Family Guy and other adult comedy. I just think this this 1 episode went a little too far.

It goes absolutely nowhere and ends with just...yup he’s horrible or the devil or whatever the joke was. It was all pointless to me and felt like an excuse to use cancer as a plot line.

If he was caught (even by Lois) it would have come off differently. It should have ended on a high note is all I’m saying. Don’t make that the plot of a whole episode just for the sake of it.

Edit: I just looked up the episode and Lois does find out. It’s been a really long time since I’ve seen it. I still think the ending was dumb.

I mean in all honesty, Big Pharma would hide or kill whoever created the cure for cancer. Helping people fight it off is big business and you know they value money over human lives.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I admit sometimes Hispanic characters overdo the 'ese' and 'homes' and whatever else, we get it, you're Hispanic, but like, to say 'offended' is too strong a word. I just carry on with my day.

Every time a black or spanish person is on TV they always seem to be written the same way:

- They're from "da hood"
- Or if they're educated, they have family or "came from the hood" and now they "made it in the world"
- They say things like, "Dat's phat," "Yo, dawg," "Homie," "Oh snap," "ese," and, "Dios mio."
- Most of them either do drugs or know people who do drugs, weed, crack, crystal meth
- If they're black/spanish in a primarily white show, they're always the "token minority" who interests with all the white characters
- They all own guns
- They all face discrimination of some kind especially if they're in interracial relationships

It's the same thing with Russians, where they all say, "Da!' and "For the glory of mother Russia!"

I wonder if everything I learned about other races from TV shows and movies was a lie.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I mean in all honesty, Big Pharma would hide or kill whoever created the cure for cancer. Helping people fight it off is big business and you know they value money over human lives.

I am almost 100% certain that this has already happened.

Although interestingly enough, they recently publicly announced a link between abusing pharmaceutical medications and various common types of cancer. Which is interesting. Now, I'm no doctor, but I kind of already knew (or assumed) that much to be true. I mean, smoking causes cancer, alcohol abuse can cause cancer, steroids cause cancer, artificial sweeteners cause cancer... even as a kid it just seemed like common sense to me that "You consistently introduce foreign substances into your body over a period of several years or even decades... yeah, I *think* that's probably how you get cancer." Like maybe not ALL the time, I'm sure that there's like a "random tumor generator" since it does sometimes seem to happen for no reason to some people. But I'm also pretty sure that if you take a lot of medications, then your odds shoot through the roof. Again, I'm no doctor... but the math checks out.

And I'm pretty sure that link was never investigated or spoke of out loud before now because keeping people hooked on pills has been big business for the past few decades, and if they came out and said "By the way, these things absolutely give you cancer" then more people might just take a risk on being bipolar or depressed or tired or whatever else they take pills for. But if that's true, it's odd that they'd suddenly come out and say there's a link, or a suspected link.

It's all very strange. But I do think that "they" know, and have always known, a lot more about cancer (including what causes it and how to get rid of it) than we mere mortals are "allowed" to know. I mean, that's what happens when the scientists who did the study that said Aspartame was safe were paid to do the study by the company that was manufacturing Aspartame. Just for example. It's not a question of "Are they lying to us?", it's a question of how MUCH, and How Big.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I am almost 100% certain that this has already happened.

Although interestingly enough, they recently publicly announced a link between abusing pharmaceutical medications and various common types of cancer. Which is interesting. Now, I'm no doctor, but I kind of already knew (or assumed) that much to be true. I mean, smoking causes cancer, alcohol abuse can cause cancer, steroids cause cancer, artificial sweeteners cause cancer... even as a kid it just seemed like common sense to me that "You consistently introduce foreign substances into your body over a period of several years or even decades... yeah, I *think* that's probably how you get cancer." Like maybe not ALL the time, I'm sure that there's like a "random tumor generator" since it does sometimes seem to happen for no reason to some people. But I'm also pretty sure that if you take a lot of medications, then your odds shoot through the roof. Again, I'm no doctor... but the math checks out.

And I'm pretty sure that link was never investigated or spoke of out loud before now because keeping people hooked on pills has been big business for the past few decades, and if they came out and said "By the way, these things absolutely give you cancer" then more people might just take a risk on being bipolar or depressed or tired or whatever else they take pills for. But if that's true, it's odd that they'd suddenly come out and say there's a link, or a suspected link.

It's all very strange. But I do think that "they" know, and have always known, a lot more about cancer (including what causes it and how to get rid of it) than we mere mortals are "allowed" to know. I mean, that's what happens when the scientists who did the study that said Aspartame was safe were paid to do the study by the company that was manufacturing Aspartame. Just for example. It's not a question of "Are they lying to us?", it's a question of how MUCH, and How Big.

Yeah cause after years and years and YEARS and YEARS of money being donated to 'the fight against cancer' and 'the search for the cure', like... what has been happening? What the **** are these eggheads actually DOING? Like I know we don't have flying cars and self-lacing shoes but still, it's 2021 and you telling me these studies that have been going on for decades have still not found a cure or some sort of preventive measure? ********.

Like even HIV/AIDS, I believe, have developed enough meds and stuff where someone that has it can still live a full life. Why are the cancer researchers napping on this?

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sdp

To her defense you get outraged just as much as Papenbrook.

In a world where just pointing things out = outrage... I guess?

P.S. That's weird.

[Leo656]

D'you ever wonder what "sdp" stands for?

Something tells me that's seriously key to all of this.

I mean, I know what it stands for in my head... but none of those things are probably The Truth.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

In a world where just pointing things out = outrage... I guess?

P.S. That's weird.

I mean... in theory, if something lands on someone's radar enough that they feel it worth discussing/complaining over, then it may be at least somewhat true...



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Everyone keeps saying things are more of an annoyance, but that's a pretty thin line. What is an annoyance but an irritation that insults someone's limits of patience, tolerance, sensibilities or standards.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I mean... in theory, if something lands on someone's radar enough that they feel it worth discussing/complaining over, then it may be at least somewhat true

No, I don't think that's what that word means. It's not even close.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by IndigoErth

I mean... in theory, if something lands on someone's radar enough that they feel it worth discussing/complaining over, then it may be at least somewhat true...

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

No, I don't think that's what that word means. It's not even close.

This was quiet possibly the most telling and important exchange on the forums in relation to Clown World and I don't know if anyone really understands why.....

I'm stone serious too.

[mrmaczaps]

Being offended is a choice.

[Leo656]

Not if you went to college in either NY, MA or CA.

Then "being offended" is a sacred oath you swear to carry to your grave.

[IndigoErth]

Originally Posted by IMJ

This was quiet possibly the most telling

No, using terms like "clown world" wins by a long shot.

[Wildcat]

Originally Posted by Leo656

The entire point of Family Guy past Season 1 is that every single character is an absolute sh*tbag. That's like, the entire show.

I know they shifted from typical storylines to whatever they think is funny but I don’t think they needed a whole episode on this.

I’ve always felt Family Guy is good at setting up jokes and punchlines even if they don’t really matter to the story. They usually fit the narrative and are funny. I don’t hold it against them or anything. I’ve never stopped watching.

I just thought this was one episode was a little too much. We already know Carter is horrible. It’s not like they were trying to expose him. He’s not real.

If it had a clever ending it’d be different. Maybe have someone else discover a cure so he rushes to reveal his because he wants all the credit. Could have had Stewie or someone pretending to be a doctor that tricks him.

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I mean in all honesty, Big Pharma would hide or kill whoever created the cure for cancer. Helping people fight it off is big business and you know they value money over human lives.

I read the other posts but didn’t wanna quote all that.

Seriously? There’s no cure for cancer because it can happen in literally any part of the body all with different reasons. That’s why it’s worse if it spreads because it’s no longer 1 type. Even if there was 1 cure there’d be multiple other types without one.

If there was a cure for any cancer “Big Pharma” would make a ton of money from it. It’d be a medical phenomenon. Every company would want to get in on it because it’d more valuable than most anything.

[Leo656]

"Treatment" is where the money is. Not "cure". Cure means fewer sick people paying into the system, treatment means keeping people "just okay" but still paying huge amounts of money into staying alive.

Long game, buddy. All about the long game.

[Wildcat]

It’s technically true that long term treatment would cost more but do you actually believe the medical industry would hide a cure for any type just to milk some extra money when they’d have a the ultimate solution?

Anyone who would need it would be willing to pay for it. Every pharmaceutical company would want to produce and distribute their own versions.

[Leo656]

My Dad worked for Big Pharma for almost 30 years, so... yes, I do.

"These people don't give a f*ck about anybody. It's all about the money." That was an oft-quoted refrain. He was pretty sure they had the cancer gimmick on lockdown back then, too. These aren't new ideas.

Whatever a company would get as a one-time payout for a big cure, it's a pittance compared to what they've taken in over the last 50 years in treatments. As well as what they stand to earn in decades to come.

I've said this before, but you could stand to be less naive and more cynical, sometimes. Just because people (or a corporation) are in a position to "save lives" doesn't mean they're actually going to do that because it's "the right thing to do." Not when they can make a lot more money doing the alternative.

I bet you think people actually become doctors because they get off on helping people, moreso than the fact that it's a guaranteed way to own a Mercedes. That's cute, but it's also not really the reality of things. Do doctors like helping people? Sure. Would anyone be a doctor if they couldn't get rich doing it? Absolutely not.

Morals and ethics have nothing to do with economics. And in life, ALL things are a matter of economics first and foremost, with everything else way in the background. The sooner you accept that, the sooner the world in general will start making a lot more sense.

[Wildcat]

I get the cover-up and why it’s used in tv but I have a hard time believing it because every company would have to in on it. I’m sure scams and such happen in someway but not to that scale.

Aside from that like I said Cancer is so extremely intricate nobody can honestly believe it’s that easy to cure and it’s just been kept a secret all this time. That’s beyond cynicism.

There’s things I’m quite cynical about but some of the stuff people say, this and that...I don’t know.

[Andrew NDB]

It's less "coverup" and diabolical cloak and dagger stuff in dark rooms as much as it's just the simple fact that at the genesis of these things, none of these are made not-for-profit. And even if they were or we're talking about people who just altruistically want to "do what's right for mankind because it's the right thing to do" and nothing else, that doesn't get them out of all sorts of a never-ending gauntlet of insurances they must carry to even begin the study of these kinds of things. This money has to come from somewhere.