LeBron James to Star in Space Jam 2 - Page 6

*Prowler* · 03-06-2021, 01:17 PM

I'll always love the original Space Jam. That movie was a big part of my childhood and I must have watched it about 25 times.

I'm not interested in Space Jam 2. A sequel coming out for Space Jam 25+ years after doesn't excite me.

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Didn't have much to add.

What I honestly do have a problem with, in all seriousness, is that both this and the Netflix She-Ra reboot made it a point to stress, "we want to have a thick divide between Strength and Sexiness with regard to female characters."

Like now apparently the official media message is, "You can be Strong, or you can be Sexy, but not both of those things, that's problematic." And like... why? That's regression. We spent decades with characters like Wonder Woman, Supergirl, Xena and the original She-Ra - and yes, even Lola Bunny - illustrating that it really doesn't have to be one or the other. I really do feel like that was the best overall positive message to put out. I never felt like it made anyone who wasn't sexy feel like they couldn't be strong, just that a woman really could "have it all". That's aspirational.

Like I can't understand why there's suddenly this big war on female characters looking sexy. It's happening more and more often and I don't like or understand it. It feels like regression, not evolution.

That's why anime and Japanese videogames are still worth it. They know that female characters can be both strong and sexy. Chun-Li, Cammy, Motoko Kusanagi, Nico Robin, Boa Hancock, Nami, Revy, etc.

Last Ronin · 03-06-2021, 10:40 PM

They did my girl Lola Bunny wrong.

*Wildcat* · 03-06-2021, 11:21 PM

They talk about desexualizing her but it’s mostly just giving her a full jersey and a more important role in the story it seems.

It sounds like we’ll get to see her even more which is great. Especially if they spend a lot of time in live action form. I’m still not sure they’ll be “realistic” the whole movie.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-07-2021, 07:28 AM

They also removed anything even resembling a curved line from her entire body structure. She's drawn entirely different except for her head. Everyone mentions her breast area, but she also no longer has any hips or any muscle tone in her legs, whereas she was drawn quite curvy and muscular before.

Now she just looked like a recolored Bugs.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-07-2021, 08:12 AM

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They talk about desexualizing her but it’s mostly just giving her a full jersey and a more important role in the story it seems.

It sounds like we’ll get to see her even more which is great.

I don't see what one has to do with the other, at all.

Imagine if Jessica Rabbit was given a much bigger role in Roger Rabbit 2, a fantastic arc and non-sultry clothing... but at the same time they completely made her figure and boobs pretty clearly asexual. Is this really a "win"? If we were to gender flip it... think, we finally get "The Incredible Hulk 2" but it's just Mark Ruffalo in green makeup and he wasn't asked to workout at all. What is that, really?

I promise you I'm not someone who wanks over animated anything, ever, but it's weird. And in the past I've seen impassioned articles from ladies who say they grew up with huge breasts and had embarrassing childhoods, who see Disney or this or that CGI away that stuff in even live action shows from characters they identified with for that reason and this makes them rather sad.

*sdp* · 03-07-2021, 11:39 AM

Closet furries.

*Coola Yagami* · 03-07-2021, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

They also removed anything even resembling a curved line from her entire body structure. She's drawn entirely different except for her head. Everyone mentions her breast area, but she also no longer has any hips or any muscle tone in her legs, whereas she was drawn quite curvy and muscular before.

Now she just looked like a recolored Bugs.

It's not just that, Lola just had this sexy demeanor. She had a sultry voice, they made her sway her hips when she walks, literally everyone stopped what they were doing and stared as she entered the room.

Ain't gonna have none of that in the sequel, pretty sure of it. I bet they'll drop the 'dont call me doll' thing too.

*Wildcat* · 03-07-2021, 10:51 PM

I’m sure they toned down or did away with her sexy demeanor...acting sultry, Bugs swooning over her etc. Who knows maybe she’ll have some moments.

As for the design I really think it’s just the jersey. There’s no midriff, her shorts are longer and they gave her those black sleeves some players use.

I’ve seen others say she has no curves or even knees but the jersey is clearly how they covered her figure. She never had a huge chest either.

That EW pic is 1 pose. I had the notebook leak but deleted it since higher quality images were on the way and the trailer should be soon. All I could find was this.

This is really stupid. What’s the big deal about some leaked finalized artwork? These don’t need removal. The best example so far is the cgi high five shot. I kept that and will screen grab the trailer.

Now I’ll admit I wish they had kept her original jersey. I mean the same style in the new blue/orange. Still I think she looks good.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-08-2021, 09:34 AM

Pepe Le Pew had a role in the movie, but it's been cut

https://deadline.com/2021/03/pepe-le...sy-1234708688/

~~Leo656~~ · 03-08-2021, 09:53 AM

Yeah, I read about that. "Promoting rape culture."

Gimme a goddamn break.

These idiots aren't gonna be happy until there's nothing left.

Come to think of it, I don't think I see very much of Pepe when I catch the old Loony Tunes repeats either. I guess that character has been "retired".

Everything's "problematic", everything is "____-ist", and everything needs fixing.

Stupid.

*sdp* · 03-08-2021, 10:13 AM

~~Sumac~~ · 03-08-2021, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Pepe Le Pew had a role in the movie, but it's been cut

https://deadline.com/2021/03/pepe-le...sy-1234708688/

Well, I would not argue that he comes of as a creep, but its all done in a humorous manner. So it depends whether or not you think someone can make jokes and portray harassment / obsessive stalker as a joke.

I personally think that there should not be forbidden themes for jokes, but in this rare case I can sympathize with SJW scum logic. There is a such stereotype like "chivalrous pervert", but Pepe, from what I've seen, is played as straight out stalker / harasser.

*Coola Yagami* · 03-08-2021, 01:04 PM

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Well, I would not argue that he comes of as a creep, but its all done in a humorous manner. So it depends whether or not you think someone can make jokes and portray harassment / obsessive stalker as a joke.

I personally think that there should not be forbidden themes for jokes, but in this rare case I can sympathize with SJW scum logic. There is a such stereotype like "chivalrous pervert", but Pepe, from what I've seen, is played as straight out stalker / harasser.

I feel it works because he's not rewarded. He's the one taking all the pratfalls, the woman in question is never portrayed as 'awww she doesn't give him a chance', like she has valid reason to run away.

IDK, if there's some way to do this 'right', Pepe did it right. It was never glorified, he was seen as the 'bad guy'.

*ZariusTwo* · 03-08-2021, 01:29 PM

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I feel it works because he's not rewarded. He's the one taking all the pratfalls, the woman in question is never portrayed as 'awww she doesn't give him a chance', like she has valid reason to run away.

Let's not remind anyone of the rare occasions Penelope wound up stalking him whenever he smelled better...

*oldmanwinters* · 03-08-2021, 02:37 PM

Pepe usually receives his comeuppance at the end of every short when the femme-cat finally gets fed up and fights back. And even then he kinda... doesn't mind so much? Eh, it's still good comedy.

The smart thing for WB to do would be for them to write him a little differently than he was in the 1940s. Wouldn't be that hard.

**Jester** · 03-08-2021, 03:25 PM

The actress who played opposite Pepe is a bit miffed her scene was cut:

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Upon learning that her scene with Pepe was cut, [Greice] Santo was upset according to her spokesperson. The actress-singer has been a victim of sexual harassment and has spoken out against it; even recording a debut single “Você Você” back in February 2018 with multi- Grammy-winning producer Humberto Gatica to empower women to stand up to sexual predators and sexual harassment. Santo even has a non-profit, Glam with Greice, which aims to empower victims of domestic violence to change their lives for the better. Santo took joy in shooting the Space Jam sequel scene with Pepe, because the skunk finally gets his comeuppance.

A spokesperson for Santo tells Deadline today, “This was such a big deal for Greice to be in this movie. Even though Pepe is a cartoon character, if anyone was going to slap a sexual harasser like him, Greice wished it would be her. Now the scene is cut, and she doesn’t have that power to influence the world through younger generations who’ll be watching Space Jam 2, to let younger girls and younger boys know that Pepe’s behavior is unacceptable.”

Last Ronin · 03-08-2021, 08:46 PM

Goodbye Pepe you sex crazed lobster.

*Powder* · 03-08-2021, 08:50 PM

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The actress who played opposite Pepe is a bit miffed her scene was cut:

They never consider the other perspective. The biggest problem with censoring content deemed "problematic" is that you eventually reach a point where you no longer have an example of what not to do, & then people start doing it, having no clue what harm it can cause. Good cannot exist without evil, you need the balance, you need the point of reference.

*oldmanwinters* · 03-08-2021, 09:00 PM

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They never consider the other perspective. The biggest problem with censoring content deemed "problematic" is that you eventually reach a point where you no longer have an example of what not to do, & then people start doing it, having no clue what harm it can cause. Good cannot exist without evil, you need the balance, you need the point of reference.

So true. I learned so much from the more eccentric characters on The Office. Probably helped me survive and advance in my own professional career.

*Papenbrook* · 03-10-2021, 09:52 AM

I'm glad that they've toned down Lola Bunny. It was inappropriate then , and it would be inappropriate now. Especially in a franchise that is primarily targeted towards children/youth, they need to set an example.

Though, I wish that they had taken more inspiration from her concept art.

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I'm also glad that they've gotten rid of Pepe Le Pew. His appearance was never needed.

I hope that he will be banned forever.

I'm just thankful that the director actually considered how women/girls would've felt.

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Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	They talk about desexualizing her but it’s mostly just giving her a full jersey and a more important role in the story it seems. It sounds like we’ll get to see her even more which is great. Especially if they spend a lot of time in live action form. I’m still not sure they’ll be “realistic” the whole movie. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

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03-07-2021, 10:51 PM	#108
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	I’m sure they toned down or did away with her sexy demeanor...acting sultry, Bugs swooning over her etc. Who knows maybe she’ll have some moments. As for the design I really think it’s just the jersey. There’s no midriff, her shorts are longer and they gave her those black sleeves some players use. I’ve seen others say she has no curves or even knees but the jersey is clearly how they covered her figure. She never had a huge chest either. That EW pic is 1 pose. I had the notebook leak but deleted it since higher quality images were on the way and the trailer should be soon. All I could find was this. This is really stupid. What’s the big deal about some leaked finalized artwork? These don’t need removal. The best example so far is the cgi high five shot. I kept that and will screen grab the trailer. Now I’ll admit I wish they had kept her original jersey. I mean the same style in the new blue/orange. Still I think she looks good. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

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03-06-2021, 10:40 PM	#102
Last Ronin Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 415	They did my girl Lola Bunny wrong.

03-07-2021, 07:28 AM	#104
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	They also removed anything even resembling a curved line from her entire body structure. She's drawn entirely different except for her head. Everyone mentions her breast area, but she also no longer has any hips or any muscle tone in her legs, whereas she was drawn quite curvy and muscular before. Now she just looked like a recolored Bugs.

03-08-2021, 09:53 AM	#110
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Yeah, I read about that. "Promoting rape culture." Gimme a goddamn break. These idiots aren't gonna be happy until there's nothing left. Come to think of it, I don't think I see very much of Pepe when I catch the old Loony Tunes repeats either. I guess that character has been "retired". Everything's "problematic", everything is "____-ist", and everything needs fixing. Stupid.

03-08-2021, 02:37 PM	#115
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,504	Pepe usually receives his comeuppance at the end of every short when the femme-cat finally gets fed up and fights back. And even then he kinda... doesn't mind so much? Eh, it's still good comedy. The smart thing for WB to do would be for them to write him a little differently than he was in the 1940s. Wouldn't be that hard. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

03-08-2021, 08:46 PM	#117
Last Ronin Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2020 Posts: 415	Goodbye Pepe you sex crazed lobster.

03-10-2021, 09:52 AM	#120
Papenbrook I'm leaving. Goodbye. :) Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: No comment -_- ... Posts: 2,754	I'm glad that they've toned down Lola Bunny. It was inappropriate then , and it would be inappropriate now. Especially in a franchise that is primarily targeted towards children/youth, they need to set an example. Though, I wish that they had taken more inspiration from her concept art. Spoiler: I'm also glad that they've gotten rid of Pepe Le Pew. His appearance was never needed. I hope that he will be banned forever. I'm just thankful that the director actually considered how women/girls would've felt.