black man (38) assaults asian woman (65) in brutal nyc hate crime

~~1987~~ · 03-31-2021, 01:45 PM

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...woman/2973656/

there is video footage on twitter of this assault, very disturbing, literally stomps her to the ground yelling racial slurs. the narrative used by most news outlets doesn’t mention the attackers race if they happen to be black, not just this incident but any incident where the suspect is black, and there has been alot of black on asian violence lately. it just doesn’t fit the blm narrative, they want to blame it all on white supremacy, or the black suspect was so oppressed by racism and that’s what led to the attacks.

why is the mainstream media so intent on protecting criminals?

*Zulithe* · 03-31-2021, 01:48 PM

Thankfully they caught this guy.

Sometimes I'm amazed at how police can track down someone on a bad camera capture like this, considering my experiences trying to get the police to do anything when needed.

*FredWolfLeonardo* · 03-31-2021, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987

why is the mainstream media so intent on protecting criminals?

Because the mainstream media is run by elite criminals.

*CyberCubed* · 03-31-2021, 03:08 PM

Glad he was caught, criminals should pay for their crimes.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-31-2021, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987

the narrative used by most news outlets doesn’t mention the attackers race if they happen to be black, not just this incident but any incident where the suspect is black, and there has been alot of black on asian violence lately.

My suspicion is that there is about the same amount of "black on Asian violence" as there pretty much has always been... the only difference now is instead of generally ignoring these stories entirely as they used to so we don't really hear about them at all, the media now at least BEGINS to jump at the stories -- hoping the attacker is a white male -- before scuttling them away when it turns out they aren't what they're looking for narratively.

The general triage from the media seems to be this:

Someone is attacked/shot:

* If the attacker's race is not known, assume it's white. Proceed accordingly with the "news coverage" and cross fingers that it turns out to be so. If not, there will probably be another attack somewhere else in a few days that you can jump to that hopefully is more in line with what you're looking for (or can be twisted to suit).

* If the attacker's race is revealed as white, number one... SCORE! Perfect. It's definitely white supremacy and proof positive that the U.S. is inherently racist, regardless of whatever true motive turns up or whatever facts are derived of the attacker.

* If the attacker's race is revealed as anything other than white, try to bury the story. Quickly. If that fails and you're still pushed, then why of course it's still white supremacy, you silly goose -- white supremacy is the reason that African American/Middle Eastern/etc. man beat up that other person, it was just them acting out due to living under the boot of racism in America. They had no choice in the matter.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-31-2021, 03:32 PM

Not a new thing. Back when I used to read 2 or 3 newspapers every day, I constantly noticed that certain newspapers would ignore or bury certain details if they were "inconvenient". Like if a person committed a violent crime, the New York Daily News would leave certain things out while the New York Post would mention those details. If the person were black or Muslim and had a history of violence and/or drug problems, prior arrests, etc., the Daily News would either not report those facts or else they would bury them super deep in the text where nobody would read it. Whereas the Post would go into much more detail and not leave anything out. To the point where they'd even often post photos of the perp that the Daily News would purposely leave out.

Very early on it was pretty clear to me that more liberal-leaning "news" outlets would leave things out while the more conservative ones both did more research and reported ALL relevant facts, not just the ones that fit the ongoing narrative.

*Andrew NDB* · 03-31-2021, 03:47 PM

Heh, that's true. If they can't bury the story if it turns out the attacker isn't white, then they just avoid mentioning the race of the attacker altogether (unless pressed, then circle back to "It's still white supremacy!"). But if it IS a white attacker, then bam, front and center: "WHITE ATTACKER" and so on.

*oldmanwinters* · 03-31-2021, 03:51 PM

I have noticed something in the media coverage where they are devoting less condemnation to the actual attacker and transferring some of the responsibility to the public onlookers who (apparently) didn't intervene. Those are legitimate questions to ask, but without knowing more about the context (all the public has are a few seconds of the attack from a couple camera angles), it isn't the right time to make conclusions about anything else. We have no idea what the witnesses did or didn't do to intervene.

~~Leo656~~ · 03-31-2021, 03:57 PM

And if the random passersby DID "intervene" and got hurt or killed, people would be like "Well what did they THINK was gonna happen?"

I was taught as a kid to mind your business and maybe call a cop if you can do so discretely without drawing any attention to yourself. "Getting involved" is just asking for it.

Either way, it's in no way the fault of the onlookers for not getting involved. That doesn't make them "guilty"; ONLY the person who committed the crime is guilty. Not the onlookers. Not "society". Only the person who Did The Thing.

WHY is Personal Responsibility suddenly not in fashion anymore? It's ridiculous. ALL Life Is About Choice. Only YOU are responsible for your own actions. I had this drilled into me as a kid and now it's like the entire thing is backwards. "YOU'RE never to blame, it's always someone or something else's fault." F*cking NONSENSE.

*oldmanwinters* · 03-31-2021, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

And if the random passersby DID "intervene" and got hurt or killed, people would be like "Well what did they THINK was gonna happen?"

I was taught as a kid to mind your business and maybe call a cop if you can do so discretely without drawing any attention to yourself. "Getting involved" is just asking for it.

Either way, it's in no way the fault of the onlookers for not getting involved. That doesn't make them "guilty"; ONLY the person who committed the crime is guilty. Not the onlookers. Not "society". Only the person who Did The Thing.

WHY is Personal Responsibility suddenly not in fashion anymore? It's ridiculous. ALL Life Is About Choice. Only YOU are responsible for your own actions. I had this drilled into me as a kid and now it's like the entire thing is backwards. "YOU'RE never to blame, it's always someone or something else's fault." F*cking NONSENSE.

I'll confess that I've watched at least one scuffle break out while walking out of a racetrack (when I was about 14), and my dad just told me to keep moving. There were thousands of people around, and I expect security was able to get involved before things got too dicey. If I were to ever witness something like a knife fight/attack, I'd probably try to get as far away as possible as quickly as possible. With the prevalence of phones nowadays, you would hope someone would call police (assuming your city hasn't defunded them) when they feel like they are in a safe position to do so, but I can't blame someone else for a split-second decision made in a context like the NYC assault.

*Refractive Reflections* · 03-31-2021, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987

why is the mainstream media so intent on protecting criminals?

Because they have a "divide and conquer" agenda on keeping the middle and poor classes preoccupied in ridiculous identity politics, while the powerful elites exploit and remove the freedoms, and consumer protections of the citizens. So that way they are too distracted to focus on the more important matters of corruption, pork spending, and illegal activity of the elites.

*ssjup81* · 03-31-2021, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 1987

why is the mainstream media so intent on protecting criminals?

Protecting how? I saw this on that world news show with David Muir on ABC a couple of nights ago. That's where I first came across it, not online. They showed the video in hopes of the guy being identified. Tonight, they brought up how the guy was identified and caught. I can't be certain as I haven't watched it at all so far this week, but I wouldn't be surprised if Inside Edition broadcast it too after it happened, since it broadcasts stuff like that.

~~Leo656~~ · 04-01-2021, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Refractive Reflections

Because they have a "divide and conquer" agenda on keeping the middle and poor classes preoccupied in ridiculous identity politics, while the powerful elites exploit and remove the freedoms, and consumer protections of the citizens. So that way they are too distracted to focus on the more important matters of corruption, pork spending, and illegal activity of the elites.

Nailed it.

*Andrew NDB* · 04-02-2021, 08:02 AM

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~~AquaParade~~ · 04-02-2021, 08:37 AM

Which outlets are conveying this as a "white supremacy issue"?

One minute I'm seeing constant battles on reddit over black on Asian crime, and the next it's all over the news and I'm hearing whispers of "white supremacy".

Haven't been paying attention to mainstream news much in 2021. Who is giving this angle?

*Andrew NDB* · 04-02-2021, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Which outlets are conveying this as a "white supremacy issue"?

It'd be easier (and would save time) to talk about the ones that aren't.

~~AquaParade~~ · 04-02-2021, 08:49 AM

Well the latest attack to pick up mainstream attention seems to be the one where the black guy who killed his mom in the past, assaulted an elderly asian woman. I see that getting picked up, so it'd be hard for anyone to report heavily on that and try to push this as another issue caused by white people, at the same time.

Not saying people aren't reporting it as such. Just sharing what I'm now seeing.

I'm so tired of the identity politics. People who hurt others are just assholes, plain and simple.

Iroh · 04-02-2021, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

Well the latest attack to pick up mainstream attention seems to be the one where the black guy who killed his mom in the past, assaulted an elderly asian woman. I see that getting picked up, so it'd be hard for anyone to report heavily on that and try to push this as another issue caused by white people, at the same time.

Not saying people aren't reporting it as such. Just sharing what I'm now seeing.

I'm so tired of the identity politics. People who hurt others are just assholes, plain and simple.

Well said, brother.

~~Leo656~~ · 04-02-2021, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by AquaParade

I'm so tired of the identity politics. People who hurt others are just assholes, plain and simple.

Nailed it.

*oldmanwinters* · 04-08-2021, 02:59 PM

I've noticed that Yahoo! has started opening up user comments on some stories again, but not this one...
https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-sup...120244625.html

03-31-2021, 01:45 PM	#1
~~1987~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 640	black man (38) assaults asian woman (65) in brutal nyc hate crime https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...woman/2973656/ there is video footage on twitter of this assault, very disturbing, literally stomps her to the ground yelling racial slurs. the narrative used by most news outlets doesn’t mention the attackers race if they happen to be black, not just this incident but any incident where the suspect is black, and there has been alot of black on asian violence lately. it just doesn’t fit the blm narrative, they want to blame it all on white supremacy, or the black suspect was so oppressed by racism and that’s what led to the attacks. why is the mainstream media so intent on protecting criminals?

03-31-2021, 03:47 PM	#7
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,582	Heh, that's true. If they can't bury the story if it turns out the attacker isn't white, then they just avoid mentioning the race of the attacker altogether (unless pressed, then circle back to "It's still white supremacy!"). But if it IS a white attacker, then bam, front and center: "WHITE ATTACKER" and so on. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

03-31-2021, 03:51 PM	#8
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,510	I have noticed something in the media coverage where they are devoting less condemnation to the actual attacker and transferring some of the responsibility to the public onlookers who (apparently) didn't intervene. Those are legitimate questions to ask, but without knowing more about the context (all the public has are a few seconds of the attack from a couple camera angles), it isn't the right time to make conclusions about anything else. We have no idea what the witnesses did or didn't do to intervene. __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

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Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,582	I like this lady. I'm gonna subscribe. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

04-08-2021, 02:59 PM	#20
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,510	I've noticed that Yahoo! has started opening up user comments on some stories again, but not this one... https://www.yahoo.com/news/white-sup...120244625.html __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

03-31-2021, 01:48 PM	#2
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,418	Thankfully they caught this guy. Sometimes I'm amazed at how police can track down someone on a bad camera capture like this, considering my experiences trying to get the police to do anything when needed.

03-31-2021, 03:08 PM	#4
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,895	Glad he was caught, criminals should pay for their crimes.

03-31-2021, 03:32 PM	#6
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Not a new thing. Back when I used to read 2 or 3 newspapers every day, I constantly noticed that certain newspapers would ignore or bury certain details if they were "inconvenient". Like if a person committed a violent crime, the New York Daily News would leave certain things out while the New York Post would mention those details. If the person were black or Muslim and had a history of violence and/or drug problems, prior arrests, etc., the Daily News would either not report those facts or else they would bury them super deep in the text where nobody would read it. Whereas the Post would go into much more detail and not leave anything out. To the point where they'd even often post photos of the perp that the Daily News would purposely leave out. Very early on it was pretty clear to me that more liberal-leaning "news" outlets would leave things out while the more conservative ones both did more research and reported ALL relevant facts, not just the ones that fit the ongoing narrative.

03-31-2021, 03:57 PM	#9
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	And if the random passersby DID "intervene" and got hurt or killed, people would be like "Well what did they THINK was gonna happen?" I was taught as a kid to mind your business and maybe call a cop if you can do so discretely without drawing any attention to yourself. "Getting involved" is just asking for it. Either way, it's in no way the fault of the onlookers for not getting involved. That doesn't make them "guilty"; ONLY the person who committed the crime is guilty. Not the onlookers. Not "society". Only the person who Did The Thing. WHY is Personal Responsibility suddenly not in fashion anymore? It's ridiculous. ALL Life Is About Choice. Only YOU are responsible for your own actions. I had this drilled into me as a kid and now it's like the entire thing is backwards. "YOU'RE never to blame, it's always someone or something else's fault." F*cking NONSENSE.

04-02-2021, 08:37 AM	#15
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Which outlets are conveying this as a "white supremacy issue"? One minute I'm seeing constant battles on reddit over black on Asian crime, and the next it's all over the news and I'm hearing whispers of "white supremacy". Haven't been paying attention to mainstream news much in 2021. Who is giving this angle?

04-02-2021, 08:49 AM	#17
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	Well the latest attack to pick up mainstream attention seems to be the one where the black guy who killed his mom in the past, assaulted an elderly asian woman. I see that getting picked up, so it'd be hard for anyone to report heavily on that and try to push this as another issue caused by white people, at the same time. Not saying people aren't reporting it as such. Just sharing what I'm now seeing. I'm so tired of the identity politics. People who hurt others are just assholes, plain and simple.