Mortal Kombat (2021)

[IMJ]

Holy $#!( man.

[AquaParade]

I may have just thrown my hat in the ring for longest post, though I'm pretty sure Leo still has me beat.

But yeah, I'm thorough.

Your portion is pretty manageable though. Feel free to reply.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by AquaParade

I may have just thrown my hat in the ring for longest post, though I'm pretty sure Leo still has me beat.

But yeah, I'm thorough.

Your portion is pretty manageable though. Feel free to reply.

HAHAH You are saying that things like simple statements "don't make sense" when they are perfectly aligned. You are relying on semantics and circular logic. It's a completely disingenuous, one-sided conversation. There is no conversation with someone who, even when presented with a three step socratic phrasing still insists on relying on saying "this makes no sense" instead of addressing the logic itself.

I can't tell if you are being willfully obtuse and grasping onto a nonsense point over a nonsense topic, or if you are feeling so cornered that you have to double down on something that was originally nothing more than "Mortal Kombat is a fantasy franchise that wouldn't work well when "Christopher Nolan'd into the real world".

When you even out or take your meds or whatever it is, go back and read the pyre you've built on this one, brother. The circular patterns and semantics you are relying on in this particular thread read like a schizophrenic's nightmare, man. LMAO Holy **** man.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Leo656

"Raiden" is the correct and original spelling. "Rayden" was a misprint by Acclaim for the home console conversions (which regrettably carried over into the first movie). It's always been "Raiden" in the original arcade games and all of the newer games and materials beginning with MK4. The console port of "Mortal Kombat Trilogy" was the last game to carry the misprinted name.

It was not a mistake, but a deliberate change to avoid lawsuit from SNK, who released fighting game Fatal Fury in 1991, which had character called "Raiden".

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by Sumac

It was not a mistake, but a deliberate change to avoid lawsuit from SNK, who released fighting game Fatal Fury in 1991, which had character called "Raiden".

Ah really? Neat. Never heard that one before. Makes sense, though. I'd always read that it was "a mistake" so I never bothered looking deeper into it. Seemed reasonable enough to assume they would make that mistake, considering what a sh*tty and slipshod company Acclaim was. But yeah, that makes more sense.

Either way, "Raiden" is the proper spelling and anyone who insists on spelling it "Rayden" in 2021 is being obstinate on purpose.

[Andrew NDB]

Ryan Reynolds for Johnny Cage?

https://screenrant.com/ryan-reynolds...umor-reaction/

[Leo656]

I doubt they could afford him. Then again, he did that Pikachu movie so maybe he just takes whatever jobs tickle his fancy.

A lot of dumb people want The Miz to play Cage, so as far as I'm concerned Reynolds can do it so long as it keeps That F*cking Guy from getting it.

[Andrew NDB]

They could afford him if he's like the only "name" they get for MK2. And I think there probably exists a misconception with Reynolds batting down movie offers left and right... I don't think that's really a thing. If you want Ryan Reynolds in your movie, you're really only looking for a very, very specific kind of guy and his delivery is always in a very, very specific way.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

They could afford him if he's like the only "name" they get for MK2. And I think there probably exists a misconception with Reynolds batting down movie offers left and right... I don't think that's really a thing. If you want Ryan Reynolds in your movie, you're really only looking for a very, very specific kind of guy and his delivery is always in a very, very specific way.

I'd much rather they get The Mizz. He's literally Johnny Cage, or at least his WWE persona is. Just give him some martial arts training and we got it.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I'd much rather they get The Mizz. He's literally Johnny Cage, or at least his WWE persona is. Just give him some martial arts training and we got it.

I mean... he could do it, I guess. But if they held out a whole movie to wait and cast Johnny Cage, they'd really only be doing that to bank on getting a name. i.e., someone like Reynolds. Like if they were just going to cast The Mizz (or someone like him), they might as well have just paid him $50 to show up at the end of the first movie, right? His casting wouldn't be a "WHOA!!!!" to anyone like it would be with Reynolds so there wouldn't be any point in holding it back a movie.

[Sumac]

I'd prefer some charismatic actor who also can fight, but they just get some famous guy and pretend he is a super martial artist.

[IMJ]

I guess the real question for the sequel will be whether or not Johnny Cage gets top billing and is the central character, which is doubtful. They will most likely continue the Cole thing as the central narrative.

But to be honest, again my hope is that they unceremoniously kill off Cole in the beginning. It would actually be a funny nod to the original MK2 and Cage's fate....

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I mean... he could do it, I guess. But if they held out a whole movie to wait and cast Johnny Cage, they'd really only be doing that to bank on getting a name. i.e., someone like Reynolds. Like if they were just going to cast The Mizz (or someone like him), they might as well have just paid him $50 to show up at the end of the first movie, right? His casting wouldn't be a "WHOA!!!!" to anyone like it would be with Reynolds so there wouldn't be any point in holding it back a movie.

Cage was literally left out because 'too many white people' not because they were saving him as a huge reveal for the sequel. His character was never meant to be any more or less grandiose than Liu Kang or Sonya, other than Liu Kang winning in the end of course. He's just a character that is flat out supposed to be there, like you'd expect Mikey in a TMNT movie or Luigi in a Mario movie.

It might be some 'big name', it might be the Mizz, but it could also be Joe-Shmoe McUnknown just for the sake of tossing Cage in there out of some sort of teeth-gnashing obligation just to shut us up.

I would not be surprised if they killed him off in the sequel to be honest.

"There, we had Johnny Whiteboy in the movie. Are you nerds happy now???"

[IMJ]

That's exactly right, and was also my initial reaction as to the creation and addition of "Cole". Basically to add anything other than a white male into the mix.

[Leo656]

I don't see why they couldn't just have a half-Asian Johnny Cage then if it was so damn important to "diversify" the cast. I don't think anyone would have complained very much.

The most annoying thing about Cole - aside from the fact that "sucking" is literally his defining trait for the whole movie until he suddenly takes a level in Bad-Ass as soon as the plot demands it - is that he could literally be swapped out for Cage and the movie would be exactly the same. Maybe you'd trim the family subplot but that's no huge loss. You could even still have him be Scorpion's descendant if you really wanted; it's a retcon but it's not like the movie doesn't retcon a bunch of other stuff anyways.

[CyberCubed]

Ryan Renolds is nearly 50, he's way too old to be playing Johnny Cage.

Johnny should be around 25-30 or so.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Ryan Renolds is nearly 50, he's way too old to be playing Johnny Cage.

Johnny should be around 25-30 or so.

I mean Deadpool isn't nearing 50?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I don't see why they couldn't just have a half-Asian Johnny Cage then if it was so damn important to "diversify" the cast. I don't think anyone would have complained very much.

The most annoying thing about Cole - aside from the fact that "sucking" is literally his defining trait for the whole movie until he suddenly takes a level in Bad-Ass as soon as the plot demands it - is that he could literally be swapped out for Cage and the movie would be exactly the same. Maybe you'd trim the family subplot but that's no huge loss. You could even still have him be Scorpion's descendant if you really wanted; it's a retcon but it's not like the movie doesn't retcon a bunch of other stuff anyways.

Honestly I'd complain a bit about that too, just like how Mileena is black but I bet you anything Kitana won't also be black, but it still would be better than not having him in there at all.

However, Johnny's deal is he's an actor and a real life martial artist, but people think all his fights are fake, so he enters the tournament to prove he can really fight and it's not just wire-fu or whatever. If you make him half-Asian you kinda fall into the 'so you're saying since he's Asian, he HAS to know martial arts' stereotype category.... Worst case scenario, you might even fall into 'what's the matta? Not Asian enough bro?"

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I mean Deadpool isn't nearing 50?

Deadpool wears a mask and otherwise has a pizza face. He is ageless as long as his girlfriend looks young and hot and... well... Monica B has that covered probably forever.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

He's still fit as f**k for being 50! He's only 6 years older than me, and I'm still in good shape. Walk four miles a day and everything, don't ya know. Can do that, AND work a fast-paced, physically demanding job for 9 hours a day, on my feet. If I can do that, Ryan can still play Cage, or Deadpool, who whoever else the f**k he wants.