Marvel's Shang-Chi Film in Development

[Autbot_Benz]

underground fight club and Abomination from Incredible Hulk is shown in the trailer

[neatoman]

Those are not rings, they're bangles. It might sound like a notpick but everyone in the world knows the difference between a ring and a bangle. The title would literally be more accurate if they were worn on the ****.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Autbot_Benz

underground fight club and Abomination from Incredible Hulk is shown in the trailer

Not only that, But they also updated his look to be more like the comics.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

Not only that, But they also updated his look to be more like the comics.

Yet in Iron Man 3 the Mandarin was faked as a rich white guy, and had significant story changes so as not to offend China. Meanwhile the real Mandarin never faced off against Iron Man, and now wields bracers instead of rings and suddenly Shang-Chi is his son. But you know... the Abomination has "wing ears" now, so it's all good......



Not eyerollin' you by the way - it's just the whole thing when you combine it with the "to be more like the comics!" statement.

You've got to understand that I'm an Iron Man collector with like 32 years in. This whole thing is BS and the initial rational behind it is even more BS. I'd trade the entire Infinity saga for a proper Iron Man trilogy that culminated in a Mandarin sitting on a throne like the Emperor in ROTJ just like Jon Favreau told me he planned on doing when I met him for an interview all the way back in '07 at SDCC, man.

[Coola Yagami]

So Mandarin without Iron Man and now Abomination without the Hulk?

What are the guys are Marvel smoking?

Also who is Shang-Chi and why have I never heard of him, like even the Guardians seem less obscure than him.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

So Mandarin without Iron Man and now Abomination without the Hulk?

Abomination shows up in She-Hulk. Which has the Hulk. Presumably this is like a minor teaser/setup of that.

Hopefully they bother explaining how/why he was able to escape custody of the US government.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Abomination shows up in She-Hulk. Which has the Hulk. Presumably this is like a minor teaser/setup of that.

Ugh.....

I hate those weird MCU TV shows. Just..... just stick to the movies you guys.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Those are not rings, they're bangles. It might sound like a notpick but everyone in the world knows the difference between a ring and a bangle.

Technically they're rings until you pick them up and wear them around your forearms. Then they're bangles.

Ugh. I have to wonder the conversations in closed rooms about this stuff. How having the rings be rings would be somehow "problematic" or anti-Asian or whatever. Because you just know it was something like that.

[IMJ]

I don't want to defend any of the **** show that has become the Mandarin in the MCU, but it is possible that the rings were "sized" for Dragon fingers and hence become wrist bangles on people.

In the comics, the rings are Makkluan tech - from the race of Dragons that is Fin Fang Foom. But with that said, I still don't care. The only thing that could save this entire debacle for me would be if Downey shows up as Iron Man in the end to take on the Mandarin, which.... you know... is not really reasonable at all.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Technically they're rings until you pick them up and wear them around your forearms. Then they're bangles.

Ugh. I have to wonder the conversations in closed rooms about this stuff. How having the rings be rings would be somehow "problematic" or anti-Asian or whatever. Because you just know it was something like that.

A guy with several gems and rings on his fingers is too similar in concept to Thanos, at least to the normies. They'd be asking why Mandarin doesn't just snap his fingers.

[neatoman]

I'm also a bit confused here about the bangles are even meant to work. Having one ring for each finger means you can just use the particular finger for the desired effect. If you wear five bangles on each arm, how do you even prioritise one effect? If you need to shoot out the ice ring to use it but it happens to be behind the fire ring, you'd have to shoot out the fire ring first.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by neatoman

I'm also a bit confused here about the bangles are even meant to work. Having one ring for each finger means you can just use the particular finger for the desired effect. If you wear five bangles on each arm, how do you even prioritise one effect? If you need to shoot out the ice ring to use it but it happens to be behind the fire ring, you'd have to shoot out the fire ring first.

You're assuming there even is an ice ring and a fire ring. The trailer makes it look like it's just yellow or white magic energy whatever, regardless which ring (or if all rings) are being used.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, it looks like the precise powers of the "rings" in this are "pew!" and "pew!"

[neatoman]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

You're assuming there even is an ice ring and a fire ring. The trailer makes it look like it's just yellow or white magic energy whatever, regardless which ring (or if all rings) are being used.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yeah, it looks like the precise powers of the "rings" in this are "pew!" and "pew!"

If the bangles don't even have different properties, what's the point of there even being ten of them? I would say comic book accuracy but clearly that isn't the case.

If you're gonna make it so that the rings are bangles, don't give them any differeing properties, have the guy using them be a mash-up of two unrelated characters and in the process even make the main character a mash-up of at least two different characters, then... Why even bother feigning accuracy?

Why not just have the bad guy be a total OC and make up a new McGuffin? He could wear "The Bangles of Conquest" or something and instead of there being ten, there could be four (one for each limb) and the catch is that you need to wear all four of them for it to be working. That would be a little more honest than just slapping the name of something else onto this and say it's based on something from a comic book.

And I understand the concerns about the Mandarin being kind of a racist character, but I don't understand what's racist about wearing finger rings that do different things, why would that aspect have to change?

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by neatoman

If the bangles don't even have different properties, what's the point of there even being ten of them? I would say comic book accuracy but clearly that isn't the case.

If you're gonna make it so that the rings are bangles, don't give them any differeing properties, have the guy using them be a mash-up of two unrelated characters and in the process even make the main character a mash-up of at least two different characters, then... Why even bother feigning accuracy?

Why not just have the bad guy be a total OC and make up a new McGuffin? He could wear "The Bangles of Conquest" or something and instead of there being ten, there could be four (one for each limb) and the catch is that you need to wear all four of them for it to be working. That would be a little more honest than just slapping the name of something else onto this and say it's based on something from a comic book.

And I understand the concerns about the Mandarin being kind of a racist character, but I don't understand what's racist about wearing finger rings that do different things, why would that aspect have to change?

Like I said, to the common normie, a guy wearing different colored gem rings on his fingers would look too similar to Thanos. Everyone would be expecting him to double-snap or something.

All this basically ties into too little too late and they should have just done the Mandarin right the first time. Marvel still wasn't owned by Disney back then, the director in charge should have told China to suck his left nut and just gone ahead with the real deal.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

So Mandarin without Iron Man and now Abomination without the Hulk?

What are the guys are Marvel smoking?

Also who is Shang-Chi and why have I never heard of him, like even the Guardians seem less obscure than him.

I don’t see any reason they can’t mix and match the typically expected hero and villain pairings. Some of the most fun comes from doing that in the comics.
Kingpin was originally a Spider-Man villain that ended up working even better with Daredevil.

Seeing Abomination pop up, unexpectedly, in a Shang Chi fighting tournament is a fun idea. You should really ask Marvel for a puff and try to enjoy it.

[The Deadman]

[ranger_scout]

This film will NOT be simultaneously released on Disney+ with Premier Access. It will play exclusively in theaters for 45 days.

https://www.thewrap.com/disney-ceo-b...remier-access/

[CyberCubed]

I have no idea what this franchise is as I never heard of it before this movie, but as long as it has some good kung fu karate action and some mystical elements I'm interested as I like that stuff in other movies.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

This film will NOT be simultaneously released on Disney+ with Premier Access. It will play exclusively in theaters for 45 days.

https://www.thewrap.com/disney-ceo-b...remier-access/

As it should be, The proper way of seeing it.