"Black Widow" solo MCU movie

[ranger_scout]

Today, the National Theater Owners have publicly blasted Disney for the hybrid theatrical and Premier Access release. They said that release strategy clearly attributed to the film's steep drop in its second weekend at the box-office.

Despite assertions that this pandemic-era improvised release strategy was a success for Disney and the simultaneous release model, it demonstrates that an exclusive theatrical release means more revenue for all stakeholders in every cycle of the movie’s life. The many questions raised by Disney’s limited release of streaming data opening weekend are being rapidly answered by Black Widow’s disappointing and anomalous performance. The most important answer is that simultaneous release is a pandemic-era artifact that should be left to history with the pandemic itself.

One can assume the family-oriented Disney+ household is larger. How much? How much password sharing is there among Disney+ subscribers? Combined with the lost theatrical revenue and forgone traditional PVOD revenue, the answer to these questions will show that simultaneous release costs Disney money in revenue per viewer over the life of the film. Pristine digital copies became available within minutes of release on Disney+. Black Widow was the most torrented movie for the week ending July 12. Piracy no doubt further affected Black Widow’s performance, and will affect its future performance in international markets where it has yet to open. This was also the case for all simultaneous releases (Wonder Woman 1984, Godzilla vs Kong, Cruella, Mortal Kombat). This did not happen for F9 or A Quiet Place Part II. How much money did everyone lose to simultaneous release piracy? The many questions raised by Disney’s limited release of streaming data opening weekend are being rapidly answered by Black Widow’s disappointing and anomalous performance. The most important answer is that simultaneous release is a pandemic-era artifact that should be left to history with the pandemic itself.

https://deadline.com/2021/07/black-w...st-1234795420/

[Andrew NDB]

They're honestly right. It's hard to push people to return to normal when you're allowing people to only do it halfway while still getting the benefits. And yes, anyone above the age of about 15 probably knows how to pirate -- by giving a day and date simultaneous streaming option, you're just gifting them a professional copy of the movie way ahead of when they'd otherwise be able to find one.

Like "The Forever Purge." I almost went and saw it in the theaters (I'm glad I didn't, actually, though I'm sure the local theater missed my patronage) and probably would have this past weekend had it not suddenly been up for streaming.

[CyberCubed]

Yeah I watched it on the streaming websites a few days ago. Granted I probably wouldn't see this in theaters anyway and would have waited till it came out months later.

Outside of the very best movies, it feels like a pain to get up and go to a theater when you can just watch something at 1 click away at home and on my time. If every movie was streamed when it came out going forward I'd probably never step one foot into a movie theater for the rest of my natural born life. Unfortunately I know most of them aren't going to continue to be released like this, but in a perfect world.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

They're honestly right. It's hard to push people to return to normal when you're allowing people to only do it halfway while still getting the benefits. And yes, anyone above the age of about 15 probably knows how to pirate -- by giving a day and date simultaneous streaming option, you're just gifting them a professional copy of the movie way ahead of when they'd otherwise be able to find one.

Like "The Forever Purge." I almost went and saw it in the theaters (I'm glad I didn't, actually, though I'm sure the local theater missed my patronage) and probably would have this past weekend had it not suddenly been up for streaming.

I agree. But we also can't let pretend that this information is the lone causality of the Black Widow flick's shoddy box office. There are a lot of ingredients in the soup of these outcomes nowadays.

I think though, if it makes the theater apologists happy, we can clearly state outright that had their been no pandemic then the ticket sales for Black Widow would've been greater than we are currently seeing. I think that's a given. The fact is, like we've stated repeatedly, that these are genre flicks with a die-hard audience that shows up in record numbers for midnight releases and weekend box office parties and so on. And when an audience like that rejects a movie, there is clearly more going on.

[sdp]

Usually it's not one reason but a combination of reasons. Black Widow in 2020 sound too interesting. Many people finished their MCU run with End Game. Scarlett is no longer as attractive as she was. It's streaming. People realized they don't love cinemas.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by sdp

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Usually it's not one reason but a combination of reasons. Black Widow in 2020 sound too interesting. Many people finished their MCU run with End Game. Scarlett is no longer as attractive as she was. It's streaming. People realized they don't love cinemas.

All of that and regardless of whether or not anyone wants to say it openly, the advertised "this is the Me Too movie of Marvel" agenda pushed people away as well. I'm not hedging the whole thing on that, but it's ridiculous to not acknowledge that.

[Warhorse]

Originally Posted by ranger_scout

Today, the National Theater Owners have publicly blasted Disney for the hybrid theatrical and Premier Access release. They said that release strategy clearly attributed to the film's steep drop in its second weekend at the box-office.




https://deadline.com/2021/07/black-w...st-1234795420/

I also wonder if the same deals the between the studios and theaters are still around today? It used to be that the first 2 or 3 weeks of the movie's release, the studios would get 90 percent of the box office. Only then would the percentages drop ten percent each week after that so that the theaters did get to see some money with the movies.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by sdp

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Usually it's not one reason but a combination of reasons. Black Widow in 2020 sound too interesting. Many people finished their MCU run with End Game. Scarlett is no longer as attractive as she was. It's streaming. People realized they don't love cinemas.

Man what happened to her face? She still has that "baby fat" in her face in the first pic.

She seriously looks like she aged 20 years in just 9 years. If you told me she was 45 years old I'd believe it....not 34 at time of filming Black Widow.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Man what happened to her face? She still has that "baby fat" in her face in the first pic.

She seriously looks like she aged 20 years in just 9 years. If you told me she was 45 years old I'd believe it....not 34 at time of filming Black Widow.

I bet you could find unflattering pics of her from back then too. Now, of course she has aged, but I don’t think those photos make a strong point.

I’d say she is still gorgeous, but the smoking probably doesn’t do her any favors.

[oldmanwinters]

I was tempted to say "remember, in-universe" she's actually 5 years older due to the post-snap time jump, but then I remember this movie takes place before all that.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Man what happened to her face? She still has that "baby fat" in her face in the first pic.

She seriously looks like she aged 20 years in just 9 years. If you told me she was 45 years old I'd believe it....not 34 at time of filming Black Widow.

I don't know. I think there was a lot more "hair and makeup" (particularly makeup) going on early on. Probably that was deemed too "male gazey" at a certain point.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I don't know. I think there was a lot more "hair and makeup" (particularly makeup) going on early on. Probably that was deemed too "male gazey" at a certain point.

I thought that too but to be fair she's on the run during most of the movie. No time to check if your make up's on point.

[Leo656]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Man what happened to her face? She still has that "baby fat" in her face in the first pic.

She seriously looks like she aged 20 years in just 9 years. If you told me she was 45 years old I'd believe it....not 34 at time of filming Black Widow.

Cigarettes, daily alcohol-drinking, and cocaine.

Just Say No.

[CyberCubed]

I don't think it's just make-up because if you look at interviews outside of movies in the same time period (like now 2020-2021) compared to interviews from 2010 or so...she does look a lot older.

I mean...she was only 34 when this movie was being filmed in 2019 (remember the original release date was May 2020 before covid), so she was still very young.

[Leo656]

Lines on the mirror put lines on your face, bruh.

[sdp]

[Coola Yagami]

Eyyyyy MechaRandom, I enjoy her vids.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Eyyyyy MechaRandom, I enjoy her vids.

I enjoyed her vids until she started crying about how dare Ethan Van Sciver have a problem with a woman vlogger. Because woman.

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

I enjoyed her vids until she started crying about how dare Ethan Van Sciver have a problem with a woman vlogger. Because woman.

Was that recent?

Also, for everyone that keeps complaining that Scarjo is too old or not as attractive as she once was, y'all can dump her 'old' ass on my doorstep. I'll take her off your hands.

Poor Cubed won't have to deal with her oldness ever again.

[Leo656]

I mean I definitely wouldn't say she's unattractive but she definitely put tons of miles on herself in a short span of time.

Most hot chicks generally fall apart after they hit 25 anyway. They tend to binge-drink and do tons of blow in college, so by the time they're pushing 30 their asses go flat and they start to look like they wash their face with a belt sander.

This is why, ironically, "hot" girls age like fruit but "just okay" girls age like wine. "Just okay" girls don't party as much and take better care of themselves.