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The woke people don't care. If it's not identity politics or canceling people for wrongspeak or pushing LatinX stuff then they aren't interested.
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the hurt feelings police, sissification and indoctrination is being forced on high school kids. i graduated 2005, mask mandates wouldn’t of worked then, kids were badasses, less censorship in media, nobody would of complied or listened to teacher. in my last couple years of high school they started an anti-bullying campaign, and introduced “challenge day”, a day dedicated to be against bullying and doing something kind for others. look where that’s got us now, indoctrination, virtue signaling, and sissification where the top priorities for these people is identity politics. |
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Hate to break it to you, and since he's out you might want to pretend it never happened... but this exact same thing would still be happening had Trump been reelected because he was making deals with terrorists, not Afghanistan's government, to pull our people out in May. Is it uncomfortable to think he also planned (though later canceled) to have them come to the U.S. and meet at Camp David?
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The Taliban on Trump: "We hope he will win the election" and withdraw U.S. troops Eat your own words and try not to choke on them. What has happened is terrible, and I guess we probably shouldn't have decided to leave without ensuring that darn Afghanistan could actually stand in their own feet, but if they never would and were unable to even after 20 years of help... then what? Your tax dollars keep going there forever because the place can't succeeded on its own? When did the Right stop chanting "America first"? Even if we didn't leave, the Taliban would no doubt have still flipped out over then breaking the promise they had with Trump. Get the good people out and then let the rest of the world play target practice and end the Taliban. ISIS is elsewhere, I think? How do we convince them to go there, too... |
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Trump did plan and agree to leave on 5/1. But even if he'd kept to that, there's every reason to believe he'd have planned the exit strategy with far greater care (you know, as in any). You really think Trump would have left tens of billions of dollars of tanks, aircraft, and weaponry behind... and just shrugging about it when the Taliban started rolling around in them? To name just one thing?
Again, the Afghani army wasn't ever being trained to be self sufficient. Ever. Part of their whole day to day operations was relying on US air support and maintenance. And when Biden pulled everybody out, he even took away the civilian contractors -- the only people with any clue how to maintain or supply any of the aircraft we left for the Taliban. Stories coming in now that the Afghani army was going on Zoom calls with the contractors to figure out basic "how tos" that they had never been taught while the Taliban closed in. And again, they never even figured out how to PAY the Afghani army/soldiers... so when we left they were basically just being asked to volunteer out of pocket. Um... I mean, should the Afghani army basically been forced to take a bigger hands-on role with all of the craft and such being gifted to them? Sure. But Biden could have been doing that the last 9 months. Not nothing.
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Biden abandoned Trump’s peace plan & exit strategy and haphazardly created his own. Biden is FULLY responsible for this wreck. He also abandoned 11,000 troops in Afghanistan, leaving them at the mercy of the taliban. Pure evil. https://newspress.com/11000-american...n-afghanistan/ You can try and prop up dementia Joe and defend his actions all you want, but that’s gonna get harder and harder to do. |
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You really think the Taliban would not have taken advantage either way and trust them to have kept the deal they supposedly made with Trump? Come on... Once we were out of the way they were likely going to try to take over no matter what. This would have likely resulted in the same outcome no matter if under Biden or Trump.
And lets be honest, Trump himself wasn't exactly a good strategist either and was quick to replace anyone who didn't go along with his own ideas, so there is no telling how that really would have gone down. Afghanistan definitely needed more prep before we decided to walk away, but after 20 years... they had plenty time and should not have assumed we'd be there doing this for them forever. Although we aren't the only country walking away either. |
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Tragic.
Truth is the US (and the UK) never should have been there in the first place. The catch 22 is that everyone agrees we couldn't stay there forever but everyone also agrees that as soon as we left it was inevitable that the Taliban would take over again - it was just a question of how long it would take them. The speed in which they have taken over is quite shocking. I see no point in arguing whether Trump's exit strategy would've been better than Biden's - I'm no military strategist but all the ones I've seen discuss seem to agree it was a matter of weeks or months in regards to how long it would take them to take over. Another thing that everyone seems to agree on is that the Afghan government that the US set up was incredibly weak and I'm hearing a lot of talk that the Afghan military wasn't anywhere near as trained up as we'd been led to believe. If that's true what the hell has been going on over there for 21 years? That's a failing the Biden, Trump, Obama and W. Bush administrations. Also I don't truck with talk of how terrible Afghanistan is as a country. For certain period in it's history Afghanistan has been quite liberal for an Islamic country. Alcohol, women's education, tolerance for other religions etc. Heck despite it being a major campaign promise to leave he was persuaded to stay by being shown an old photo of Afghan women wearing mini skirts as proof it could be turned into a nice ally to the America. |
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I hope America stays out of Afghanistan. "Muh women" is quite ironic for America to moan about considering how many women have been killed by America's strategic bombing campaigns in the country.
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biden is a laughingstock I call on Joe Biden to resign in disgrace! |
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And if you think why Putin acts so bold with his tyranny, well, the same reason: Biden is nobody to him.
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Their idea is a spiritual one. One cannot kill the idea of God or the promise of paradise.
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At least not anytime soon. Maybe in 1000 years the amount who have put such beliefs away will be a bit more substantial...if humanity doesn't off itself over it beforehand.
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Lack of belief isn't passed through genetics, so that doesn't even matter.
I've never gotten the impression really that any non-theists (atheists or otherwise) want to take over the world and make everyone like us. I'm sure there are some out there, but they are probably a small minority. More-so a lot of us probably just wish for theists, esp certain factions of some religions, to chill the hell out. |
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