Star Wars: Visions (Star Wars has become anime) - Page 2

*Allio* · 09-22-2021, 03:36 PM

Show isn’t adhere to the canon. But most of them can fit in if you try (2 are pre episode 1 and 4 are post order 66.) the twins were modified, just assume that was part of their modifications

Glad that trigger went twonextremes. the Twins felt like their more over the top shows like Kill la kill, but then The Elder felt more in line with the original trilogy in action and grounded.

*CyberCubed* · 09-22-2021, 04:26 PM

I'm seeing a lot of hate from these from Star Wars fans who don't like anime, which is understandable, most of these shorts went full animu. There's not a lot of crossover between Star Wars fans and anime fans, especially the older Star Wars fans from the 70's and 80's and early 90's who grew up before anime became a big thing in the west. A lot of them are complaining about the "over the top" animation and how it doesn't feel like Star Wars.

Sometimes I forgot how many people still hate anime in the west, mainly because I hang around of fandoms. But then you go to the more casual side and you see how despised anime is.

*sdp* · 09-22-2021, 04:59 PM

The Genndy Tartakovsky Clone Wars series were very over the top and heavily influenced by animu. I mean I understand anime can sometimes be very stylized which can contrast with the style of the movies but I mean come one there's a star wars lego cartoon and fans embrace that silly ass crap. Not to mention we have the star wars sequels, if something is good in the star wars era they should just embrace it. Most hardcore star wars fans are just boomers though, they were literally adults when Episode I came out.

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Are those comics adaptations of the 1977–1983 Star Wars movie trilogy?

yes, they're cool check them out.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 09-22-2021, 05:00 PM

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I'm seeing a lot of hate from these from Star Wars fans who don't like anime

They should at least be aware that Star Wars has many infliences from old Asian religions and traditions.

https://billmoyers.com/content/mytho...-george-lucas/

*CyberCubed* · 09-22-2021, 08:07 PM

Star Wars fans hate anime because it came after their existence. Most Star Wars fans are 40+ year olds before anime became mainstream, not counting the younger generation who got into Star Wars in the 2000's.

*Mayhem* · 09-23-2021, 03:12 AM

Speak for yourself, I was into anime in the early 1980s (albeit I didn't realise stuff such as Battle of the Planets was anime at the time) and then Akira came along in 1989 and that's when it really exploded in the UK.

*CyberCubed* · 09-23-2021, 06:26 AM

Anime hatred was huge among western fans in the 90's, especially people who were already over 20 by the time it hit big. I was there, there was the whole cartoons vs. anime war in the early 2000's where people who grew up with Cartoon Network, KidsWB or Nickleodeon from the 90's didn't want to watch anime. Or people thought anime was just, "Pokemon and Dragon Ball Z" or porn.

*sdp* · 09-23-2021, 09:10 AM

An outlier doesn't mean it isn't true in general, there was nothing more nerdy and outcast thing you could do than like anime in the states in the 90s. Europe and LatinAmerica had plenty of anime exports for decades so it was synonymous with cartoons there. Now that geek culture is mainstream people are having revisionist history of how things used to be, there's a reason there's a movie called revenge of the nerds.

*IMJ* · 09-23-2021, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

Speak for yourself, I was into anime in the early 1980s (albeit I didn't realise stuff such as Battle of the Planets was anime at the time) and then Akira came along in 1989 and that's when it really exploded in the UK.

I saw anime like "Voltron" as a kid, but didn't understand it. It wasn't until I got roped into watching "Fist of the North Star" in High School that I developed an appreciation for it.

I still love that movie too.....

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 09-23-2021, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mayhem

Speak for yourself, I was into anime in the early 1980s (albeit I didn't realise stuff such as Battle of the Planets was anime at the time) and then Akira came along in 1989 and that's when it really exploded in the UK.

So, anime hit mainstream in the UK before the USA?

*sdp* · 09-23-2021, 01:38 PM

I'm not sure about the UK but Spain and France were flooded with anime in the 80s and 90s.

*Andrew NDB* · 09-23-2021, 01:47 PM

I grew into anime probably because of playing a lot of Final Fantasy games and such. I grew out of it because it all kind of started to seem a little "samish" at a certain point to me. A lot of the same tropes and whiny, feminine men and such.

*sdp* · 09-23-2021, 03:35 PM

it's because of boomers who couldn't handle something being done in another country that we got stuff like this in the early 2000's since they thought kids were just as racist as their parents

*CyberCubed* · 09-23-2021, 06:53 PM

I noticed how there was no fanservice in any of these shorts, most likely because Disney wouldn't allow them. A lot of the animation studios like Trigger who made two of the shorts made fanservice anime with underage girls with huge boobs, I guess they couldn't get away with it here.

I was paying close attention every time a female character was on-screen and they were covered head to toe like a Muslim and two of them were like Korra or "badass." Even the cute rabbit character wasn't treated like a furry. I guess Disney made sure the anime didn't go too far with the fanservice.

*sdp* · 09-23-2021, 07:07 PM

But hasn't anime fan service been toned down in recent years? I don't keep up with anime too much but in general from the stuff I check out it seems it's only gotten tamer and tamer over the years. Examples of niche animes aimed at perverted otaku don't count I know there's plenty of that stuff but not in mainstream products. It's the equivalent of someone posting porn as evidence as to hollywood movies still having tons of nudity.

That's a shame, same reason why Rey never got an iconic sexy outfit like Princess Leia and Padme got. Disney banned licensing for the slave outfit for a while but it's been re-allowed again under the huttslayer name. I still doubt we'll ever get another sexy star wars character ever even after the current conservative apparel for girls ends since Disney is just kid friendly.

*IMJ* · 09-23-2021, 08:53 PM

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I still doubt we'll ever get another sexy star wars character ever even after the current conservative apparel for girls ends since Disney is just kid friendly.

IRONY ALERT! Use of the word "conservative" ironically in a situation created explicitly by the radical liberal nonsense going on around us!

Not on you SDP, just a pointing out how these things wind around. Not on you.

09-22-2021, 03:36 PM	#21
Allio Foot Elite Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 4,208	Show isn’t adhere to the canon. But most of them can fit in if you try (2 are pre episode 1 and 4 are post order 66.) the twins were modified, just assume that was part of their modifications Glad that trigger went twonextremes. the Twins felt like their more over the top shows like Kill la kill, but then The Elder felt more in line with the original trilogy in action and grounded. __________________

09-23-2021, 03:12 AM	#26
Mayhem Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: London, England Posts: 4,082	Speak for yourself, I was into anime in the early 1980s (albeit I didn't realise stuff such as Battle of the Planets was anime at the time) and then Akira came along in 1989 and that's when it really exploded in the UK. __________________ Lie with passion and be forever damned...

09-23-2021, 09:10 AM	#28
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	An outlier doesn't mean it isn't true in general, there was nothing more nerdy and outcast thing you could do than like anime in the states in the 90s. Europe and LatinAmerica had plenty of anime exports for decades so it was synonymous with cartoons there. Now that geek culture is mainstream people are having revisionist history of how things used to be, there's a reason there's a movie called revenge of the nerds. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

09-23-2021, 01:38 PM	#31
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	I'm not sure about the UK but Spain and France were flooded with anime in the 80s and 90s. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

09-23-2021, 01:47 PM	#32
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,573	I grew into anime probably because of playing a lot of Final Fantasy games and such. I grew out of it because it all kind of started to seem a little "samish" at a certain point to me. A lot of the same tropes and whiny, feminine men and such. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

09-22-2021, 04:26 PM	#22
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	I'm seeing a lot of hate from these from Star Wars fans who don't like anime, which is understandable, most of these shorts went full animu. There's not a lot of crossover between Star Wars fans and anime fans, especially the older Star Wars fans from the 70's and 80's and early 90's who grew up before anime became a big thing in the west. A lot of them are complaining about the "over the top" animation and how it doesn't feel like Star Wars. Sometimes I forgot how many people still hate anime in the west, mainly because I hang around of fandoms. But then you go to the more casual side and you see how despised anime is.

09-22-2021, 08:07 PM	#25
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Star Wars fans hate anime because it came after their existence. Most Star Wars fans are 40+ year olds before anime became mainstream, not counting the younger generation who got into Star Wars in the 2000's.

09-23-2021, 06:26 AM	#27
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Anime hatred was huge among western fans in the 90's, especially people who were already over 20 by the time it hit big. I was there, there was the whole cartoons vs. anime war in the early 2000's where people who grew up with Cartoon Network, KidsWB or Nickleodeon from the 90's didn't want to watch anime. Or people thought anime was just, "Pokemon and Dragon Ball Z" or porn.

09-23-2021, 03:35 PM	#33
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	it's because of boomers who couldn't handle something being done in another country that we got stuff like this in the early 2000's since they thought kids were just as racist as their parents __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server Last edited by sdp; 09-23-2021 at 03:42 PM.

09-23-2021, 06:53 PM	#34
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	I noticed how there was no fanservice in any of these shorts, most likely because Disney wouldn't allow them. A lot of the animation studios like Trigger who made two of the shorts made fanservice anime with underage girls with huge boobs, I guess they couldn't get away with it here. I was paying close attention every time a female character was on-screen and they were covered head to toe like a Muslim and two of them were like Korra or "badass." Even the cute rabbit character wasn't treated like a furry. I guess Disney made sure the anime didn't go too far with the fanservice.

09-23-2021, 07:07 PM	#35
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	But hasn't anime fan service been toned down in recent years? I don't keep up with anime too much but in general from the stuff I check out it seems it's only gotten tamer and tamer over the years. Examples of niche animes aimed at perverted otaku don't count I know there's plenty of that stuff but not in mainstream products. It's the equivalent of someone posting porn as evidence as to hollywood movies still having tons of nudity. That's a shame, same reason why Rey never got an iconic sexy outfit like Princess Leia and Padme got. Disney banned licensing for the slave outfit for a while but it's been re-allowed again under the huttslayer name. I still doubt we'll ever get another sexy star wars character ever even after the current conservative apparel for girls ends since Disney is just kid friendly. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server