Dune remake (2020)

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm waiting to hear what David Lynch thinks of it.

I'd love to hear it. But he doesn't even really talk much about his own experience on Dune so I doubt he'll say much, if anything. Maybe if someone really, presses him.

[Leo656]

I imagine he'd be positive, or at least well-wishing.

I can't remember a single time I've heard him ever be overly negative about anyone or anything. Like he obviously didn't have a good time making the original, but the few things I've read where he talked about it he tried to be as vague and broad as possible and not put too much heat on anyone or any specific thing.

He just seems like an all-around really positive fella. Just a swell guy.

[Andrew NDB]

So yeah. I'm worried about this movie. I may have glanced at the first hour. It's sort of boring with only establishing shot type stuff that's new and interesting.

Also the classic line about "cattle and women" in regard to "being in the mood to fight" is omitted. Hmmf.

[NinjaPug]

Pumped to see this tonight.

WB seems to be talking a big game about Part II actually happening. I’ve been worried we’d never get the second part when they decided not to film them back-to-back.

[Leo656]

David Lynch should direct the sequel.

C'mon, everybody loves a good redemption story.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

WB seems to be talking a big game about Part II actually happening. I’ve been worried we’d never get the second part when they decided not to film them back-to-back.

From what I was reading, it seems like the only reason the director relented and is OK about Part 1 seeing a HBO Max/theatrical simultaneous release and isn't trying to sue the crap out of them is because they've assured him that no matter what, as long as he sits quiet like a good company man then he'll get to do Part 2.

[AquaParade]

It's an awesome movie. Loved it.
Only warnings I'd give is that it's not an action-packed film and that it certainly feels like part of a bigger story, rather than a complete story.

[Leo656]

I'm reading a lot of good feedback on this from people who know the franchise really well, so I'm honestly getting more curious to see it. I don't know jack sh*t about anything "Dune", though, and I hear that it's like a really dense mythology. Like, I see tons of people saying stuff like, "I tried to read the first book, got three pages in and decided that reading the phone book was less dry and more engaging." But some of them thought this movie was okay.

All I know is there were books, the Lynch movie fell apart for multiple reasons, that SyFy did a mini-series back in the day that was supposedly pretty good, and that in this new one most people seem to like almost everything except Jason Mamoa.

Should I bother?

Furthermore, should I bother with the Lynch movie just for the heck of it, to complete my Lynch collection? So far I've thoroughly enjoyed every movie of his I've ever seen. I know he's disowned it, and that nobody actually "loves" it, but more and more often I'm seeing people defend it, especially just lately. Like I haven't seen anyone saying it's anywhere near as good as this new one but I have seen more and more people saying that it's heavily flawed, but enjoyable as its own thing.

I'unno, just curious. Some of you seem to know your "Dune" so I figured I'd ask.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

As someone whose never read the novels, I thought it was a well-made movie. It's not one of the best movies that I've watched but it was fine. I second what Aqua said on the info warnings in the film. I literally had to look up Wiki to see if there's more to the story.

[AquaParade]

Originally Posted by LeotheLateBloomer

As someone whose never read the novels, I thought it was a well-made movie. It's not one of the best movies that I've watched but it was fine. I second what Aqua said on the info warnings in the film. I literally had to look up Wiki to see if there's more to the story.

Right?

When the title screen comes up at the start, it says in fairly small font "Dune....part 1."

I wouldn't be surprised if they catch some flak for that, because nothing I saw in the marketing indicated that this is a part 1 and it certainly is.

Personally, I'm not upset. I knew it was part of a larger story. I feel satisfied because there was so much I enjoyed and I'm looking forward to part 2. I do think it feels a little devious from a marketing perspective.

[Leo656]

I'm more familiar with my own taint than I am with "Dune", but even I knew just from cultural osmosis that ANY movie about it was automatically only going to be a "Part 1". Aren't there like six books? And everything I've ever heard about the first book was, "It's just not possible to do it in a single two-hour movie."

They maybe didn't wanna seem overconfident by labeling it "Part 1"? Or maybe they were afraid if they did that, some people would think Part 1 was all preamble, and wait for Part 2 since sequels are always more action-heavy?

I'unno. I know nothing about Dune, but it seems like those who do already knew - without being told - that this was only ever Part 1. I guess the studio could've been more transparent about it but I can also see why they weren't.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm more familiar with my own taint than I am with "Dune", but even I knew just from cultural osmosis that ANY movie about it was automatically only going to be a "Part 1". Aren't there like six books? And everything I've ever heard about the first book was, "It's just not possible to do it in a single two-hour movie."

They maybe didn't wanna seem overconfident by labeling it "Part 1"? Or maybe they were afraid if they did that, some people would think Part 1 was all preamble, and wait for Part 2 since sequels are always more action-heavy?

I'unno. I know nothing about Dune, but it seems like those who do already knew - without being told - that this was only ever Part 1. I guess the studio could've been more transparent about it but I can also see why they weren't.

Some basic bullets:

* They only did about less than half of the first book.

* Again, the only reason the director isn't banging a torch about "Why is my movie on HBO Max when I want maximum box office potential and I didn't sign up for this!" (which he did until he suddenly didn't) is because he's already been assured he'll get to do "part 2" (AKA: the second half of the novel) if he just sits there, even if this first one somehow loses money. Which it might. But it's looking good right now.

* It's a pretty good update of Dune vs. the Lynch movie and the mini, all things considered. I'm probably hung up on some choice omissions that probably will bug exactly no one else... and I know why they did them and it's stupid.

[IMJ]

Blade Runner 2049 is one of my favorite movies of all-time. And then after that I watched "Arrival" and realized that I might actually be a fan of Villeneuve.

Planning on seeing this one tonight....

[TigerClaw]

I thought the movie was pretty good, and better then the 1984 movie, However I noticed one omission that I hope they add in part 2.

Spoiler:

The Spacing Guild Navigators were not in this movie.
They appeared in the 1984 movie, and I believe were in the books as well.

[Andrew NDB]

There was the one Navigator that came to see the Baron in that black box with the tube behind it. We just didn't get to see what's inside.

So in Dune Part 2 we'll get to see the Navigators, the Emperor, and Feyd.

[TigerClaw]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

There was the one Navigator that came to see the Baron in that black box with the tube behind it. We just didn't get to see what's inside.

So in Dune Part 2 we'll get to see the Navigators, the Emperor, and Feyd.

I was hoping to see the one that's in that giant container like in the 1984 film, There was an article from 2020 that had one of the concept artist talking about the Spacing Guild Navigator, He did a concept art for the director, But he said he can't promise if it will be in the movie, Sure enough it wasn't.
https://nerdbot.com/2020/09/19/daily...ators-in-film/

“Trust me, when Denis told me that [the guild navigators aren’t in the movie], when he told me that, I just sort of looked at him and went ‘WHAT!.’ And he goes [in a fairly good approximation of Denis’ accent] ‘Carlos, I know you’re going to get mad at me, but it’s too much. We need to make it smaller so we can tell this story well.’ But you can’t do that man, you’ve got to put them in there! ‘Ok well do a design for me, and then maybe you will change my mind.’ And I’m like ok, and I did. I went around and around, and I finally came to it by the end of the week that I was allowed to work on it. And he saw it, and he goes ‘Carlos, this is him. This is the navigator.’ So alright, he’s in, right? ‘I can’t promise.’ And I’m like WHAT, so I don’t think it did. I mean I know for a fact that it [the navigator] won’t be in the movie. It’ll be in the next one.”

[AquaParade]

Is there anything more to that creature we see in the Baron's home? The spider-like one. Had an interesting design.

[IMJ]

Saw it last night. It was terrific. Absolute must-see in the theater. The sound mix was terrific too...

[AquaParade]

Rainy day so I’m playing guitar and watching it again on HBO Max. I love being able to do this.

I have to say, I’m even more excited for The Batman after seeing the cinematography of this film. Same guy working on both. We’re about to see the most gorgeously shot Batman movie ever.

[ZariusTwo]

Dune is Warner's biggest success this year with the theatrical/HBO Max release model

https://deadline.com/2021/10/dune-we...ce-1234860683/