New Ghostbusters movie in OG movie universe Jason Reitman directing 2020 - Page 35

*Autbot_Benz* · 11-08-2021, 12:27 PM

Hearing Venkman say "hey did you miss us" yes Peter yes we did

~~Leo656~~ · 11-08-2021, 01:13 PM

I've been more skeptical of this movie than anyone, but I have to admit I think they're doing everything exactly as they need to do.

My weekend is gonna be f*cking murder, though. Not sure when I'll have time.

*Wildcat* · 11-08-2021, 10:16 PM

It’s cute how the mini pufts are excited to see the original GB but it might just be edited that way and they’re reacting to something else.

Stay Puft should remember them though with Gozer returning. His toy clearly shows he’s made from them. This might be what they’re reacting to. The formation of giant Stay Puft.

However they’re in the car with Podcast which makes me wonder if some are friendly and end up hanging out with them. One of the figures has a mini puft accessory.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-09-2021, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat

It’s cute how the mini pufts are excited to see the original GB but it might just be edited that way and they’re reacting to something else.

That was immediately what I thought. Deceptive editing.

Though another thing that might just be more deceptive editing but maybe not... is that that trailer directly implies/shows the OG Ghostbusters arriving in a second Ecto vehicle.

~~Leo656~~ · 11-09-2021, 03:11 AM

I'm seeing some people online say that the tone of the trailers is "too reverent" and that they're afraid the movie will take itself too seriously.

People annoy me.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-09-2021, 03:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Leo656

I'm seeing some people online say that the tone of the trailers is "too reverent" and that they're afraid the movie will take itself too seriously.

People annoy me.

These are largely the same people upset about GB 16 failing, that "we NEED this to succeed, for all the little girls out there!" that largely went "Oh, the MEN think they won with this, don't they??" (when Afterlife was first announced, before it turned out it would be like half female anyway). They just know they can't package their mental illness hatred that way in retorts anymore, are upset that GB 16 is universally reviled, so we get weird stuff like that.

~~Leo656~~ · 11-09-2021, 03:34 AM

I mean, it does seem a bit self-serious, but given how Chickbusters went out of its way to mock the franchise and its fans so viciously, I think that even if they "over-correct" a bit in the opposite direction by going "overly-reverent"... they kinda have to, at this point.

I mean, if it's a choice between two extremes, a valentine is better than a flaming bag of sh*t.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-09-2021, 03:40 AM

Though what we now know from Jason Reitman is that this was secretly in development even simultaneously to GB 16... so nothing in this is reactionary by design. It was just going to be a thing we were always going to get at about the same time we'd be seeing the second sequel to GB 16 if that was a hit. It wasn't, so of course it now seems like this major course correction thing.

*Wildcat* · 11-09-2021, 03:43 AM

The original GBs probably drive the Ecto1 again. Not arrive in a separate one.

There’s a person on BluRay boards that has argued it’s too family-friendly. That they turned it into an 80s style kids adventure. They even went as far as saying Egon was probably asexual and would have never had a daughter...because he was like the most eccentric. Just stupid reasons.

*Andrew NDB* · 11-09-2021, 03:47 AM

It will be a little sad if the "30 years later" state of things is that nobody had a family but Egon. And maybe Venkman married Dana and raised Oscar. I hope it's not just that.

*Wildcat* · 11-09-2021, 04:19 AM

Ya I thought of that. I read somewhere they give Winston an actual background. I think close to what he was originally going to have.

Someone pointed out that one of them is wearing a wedding ring in the trailer. So probably Peter.

Hopefully Ray has some kind of family. I’m gonna assume he does even if we don’t see them.

*Coola Yagami* · 11-09-2021, 11:09 AM

I'll probably go see it next week or further out. I've actually gotten used to being in an empty theater, so I'll catch the matinee viewing.

*ZariusTwo* · 11-09-2021, 03:12 PM

*IndigoErth* · 11-09-2021, 03:54 PM

This is more or less what I kept saying they should have done last time with that hated one instead of trying to redo a beloved franchise, which never sounds like a good idea.

A sequel where new characters are family members of the original cast wasn't so hard of a thing to come up with, now was is. Can't have the original people forever sad to say, gotta move on if they are to make more, and it likely has no choice but to feel like a film of this era and unable to truly mimic the feel of the originals (though making it kid centered...eh)... but at least going this direction doesn't feel like its stepping (or totally tromping) on the toes of the first films.

~~Leo656~~ · 11-09-2021, 04:13 PM

I generally hate kids so I can't say this is ever going to be what I would have preferred over a REAL Ghostbusters 3, but given how they waited too long and Ramis is dead and the chance to do a real GB3 is gone forever, I have to admit that this movie in its current form is probably the best-case scenario out of all the possibilities. And to be fair the kids they got for this do look like they do a good job. Like I'm not put off by the trailers as I at one point figured I would be. The girl playing Egon's granddaughter is probably going to carry a ton of the movie and it appears that she does fine.

I mean, we were probably always destined to get some version of this movie no matter what, eventually. I'm just always going to be sad we never got a true GB3 with the original four way back in the 90s or at some other point. That will forever be a huge missed opportunity, and it's going to bug me forever. Because even if that movie had happened, we'd still get some version of this one because it was inevitable if they want to keep the brand going.

Absent that, though, this looks like it's about as good of a follow-up as anyone could ever do.

*IMJ* · 11-09-2021, 06:59 PM

I'm wondering if Ray and Peter only show up at literally the very, very end of the movie, and the "Did you miss us?" line is maybe directed at Gozer.

~~Vegita-San~~ · 11-09-2021, 07:20 PM

that would be my guess. Also notice one of the actresses wearing the zull dress. I REALLY hope this isn't just a THIRD rehash of the first movie.

~~Leo656~~ · 11-09-2021, 07:33 PM

Probably is. All signs do point in that direction.

But again, as I've often said in defense of "The Force Awakens" (which I still think is Just Fine as a springboard and that it was the next movie that ruined everything for everyone), previous films more or less left the filmmakers no choice but to do exactly what they did, if they wanted to regain audience confidence.

*Wildcat* · 11-09-2021, 11:30 PM

No they can’t show up at the very, very end because they’d have no reason to put on the equipment. They obviously help fight in the final battle. I agree Peter must be talking to Gozer. None of the other characters have met them before.

I’ll admit I would have preferred a new villain after all this time. Plus it’s not like 1 evil entity would control all supernatural activity but I’m fine with it.

As for being part 3, I mentioned that others have argued it’s not a “true GB3” because the original team are not the main characters but pretty much all the previous ideas we’ve seen over the years were going to introduce a new team.

It’s unfair to say it does not count because it turned out a certain way due to taking so long. It really bothers me when I see this because there’s no definitive definition of what GB3 would have been.

We all wanted to see the 4 actors together again but this does not unmake it GB3.

~~Leo656~~ · 11-09-2021, 11:42 PM

I think losing the co-creator and primary creative force is a pretty significant mark against this being a "true" Ghostbusters 3. Let's be honest, it's not like they lost the sound tech or a key grip.

I know Aykroyd always had a ton of creative input as well over the years, but have you actually seen his original unfiltered ideas for the first movie? Just awful. I lay a ton of what Ghostbusters ultimately became on Ramis, and to a lesser extent Reitman, filtering out Dan's goofball and completely impossible ideas and turning them into something workable.

To imply that losing Ramis was some kind of minor speed bump and that this one is "just as good" as a real Ghostbusters 3 is pretty nuts.

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11-08-2021, 10:16 PM	#683
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	It’s cute how the mini pufts are excited to see the original GB but it might just be edited that way and they’re reacting to something else. Stay Puft should remember them though with Gozer returning. His toy clearly shows he’s made from them. This might be what they’re reacting to. The formation of giant Stay Puft. However they’re in the car with Podcast which makes me wonder if some are friendly and end up hanging out with them. One of the figures has a mini puft accessory. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

11-09-2021, 03:40 AM	#688
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,573	Though what we now know from Jason Reitman is that this was secretly in development even simultaneously to GB 16... so nothing in this is reactionary by design. It was just going to be a thing we were always going to get at about the same time we'd be seeing the second sequel to GB 16 if that was a hit. It wasn't, so of course it now seems like this major course correction thing. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

11-09-2021, 03:43 AM	#689
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	The original GBs probably drive the Ecto1 again. Not arrive in a separate one. There’s a person on BluRay boards that has argued it’s too family-friendly. That they turned it into an 80s style kids adventure. They even went as far as saying Egon was probably asexual and would have never had a daughter...because he was like the most eccentric. Just stupid reasons. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

11-09-2021, 03:47 AM	#690
Andrew NDB Weed Whacker Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Auburn, WA Posts: 34,573	It will be a little sad if the "30 years later" state of things is that nobody had a family but Egon. And maybe Venkman married Dana and raised Oscar. I hope it's not just that. __________________ [ ODYSSEY \| ORIGIN \| THE IMAGE/VOL. 3 CONCLUSION \| THE SHELLSHOCKED PODCAST \| ON FACEBOOK ]

11-08-2021, 01:13 PM	#682
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I've been more skeptical of this movie than anyone, but I have to admit I think they're doing everything exactly as they need to do. My weekend is gonna be f*cking murder, though. Not sure when I'll have time.

11-09-2021, 03:11 AM	#685
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I'm seeing some people online say that the tone of the trailers is "too reverent" and that they're afraid the movie will take itself too seriously. People annoy me.

11-09-2021, 03:34 AM	#687
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I mean, it does seem a bit self-serious, but given how Chickbusters went out of its way to mock the franchise and its fans so viciously, I think that even if they "over-correct" a bit in the opposite direction by going "overly-reverent"... they kinda have to, at this point. I mean, if it's a choice between two extremes, a valentine is better than a flaming bag of sh*t.

11-09-2021, 04:19 AM	#691
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	Ya I thought of that. I read somewhere they give Winston an actual background. I think close to what he was originally going to have. Someone pointed out that one of them is wearing a wedding ring in the trailer. So probably Peter. Hopefully Ray has some kind of family. I’m gonna assume he does even if we don’t see them. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

11-09-2021, 11:09 AM	#692
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11-09-2021, 03:54 PM	#694
IndigoErth Team Blue Boy Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: U.S., East Coast Posts: 16,296	This is more or less what I kept saying they should have done last time with that hated one instead of trying to redo a beloved franchise, which never sounds like a good idea. A sequel where new characters are family members of the original cast wasn't so hard of a thing to come up with, now was is. Can't have the original people forever sad to say, gotta move on if they are to make more, and it likely has no choice but to feel like a film of this era and unable to truly mimic the feel of the originals (though making it kid centered...eh)... but at least going this direction doesn't feel like its stepping (or totally tromping) on the toes of the first films. Last edited by IndigoErth; 11-09-2021 at 05:06 PM.

11-09-2021, 04:13 PM	#695
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I generally hate kids so I can't say this is ever going to be what I would have preferred over a REAL Ghostbusters 3, but given how they waited too long and Ramis is dead and the chance to do a real GB3 is gone forever, I have to admit that this movie in its current form is probably the best-case scenario out of all the possibilities. And to be fair the kids they got for this do look like they do a good job. Like I'm not put off by the trailers as I at one point figured I would be. The girl playing Egon's granddaughter is probably going to carry a ton of the movie and it appears that she does fine. I mean, we were probably always destined to get some version of this movie no matter what, eventually. I'm just always going to be sad we never got a true GB3 with the original four way back in the 90s or at some other point. That will forever be a huge missed opportunity, and it's going to bug me forever. Because even if that movie had happened, we'd still get some version of this one because it was inevitable if they want to keep the brand going. Absent that, though, this looks like it's about as good of a follow-up as anyone could ever do.

11-09-2021, 06:59 PM	#696
IMJ Emperor Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Midwest, U.S.A. Posts: 8,895	I'm wondering if Ray and Peter only show up at literally the very, very end of the movie, and the "Did you miss us?" line is maybe directed at Gozer. __________________ Wave 1 Collectibles Online Market Watch Blog Collection Photography

11-09-2021, 07:20 PM	#697
~~Vegita-San~~ Banned Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 6,089	that would be my guess. Also notice one of the actresses wearing the zull dress. I REALLY hope this isn't just a THIRD rehash of the first movie.

11-09-2021, 07:33 PM	#698
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Probably is. All signs do point in that direction. But again, as I've often said in defense of "The Force Awakens" (which I still think is Just Fine as a springboard and that it was the next movie that ruined everything for everyone), previous films more or less left the filmmakers no choice but to do exactly what they did, if they wanted to regain audience confidence.

11-09-2021, 11:30 PM	#699
Wildcat Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: AZ Posts: 3,516	No they can’t show up at the very, very end because they’d have no reason to put on the equipment. They obviously help fight in the final battle. I agree Peter must be talking to Gozer. None of the other characters have met them before. I’ll admit I would have preferred a new villain after all this time. Plus it’s not like 1 evil entity would control all supernatural activity but I’m fine with it. As for being part 3, I mentioned that others have argued it’s not a “true GB3” because the original team are not the main characters but pretty much all the previous ideas we’ve seen over the years were going to introduce a new team. It’s unfair to say it does not count because it turned out a certain way due to taking so long. It really bothers me when I see this because there’s no definitive definition of what GB3 would have been. We all wanted to see the 4 actors together again but this does not unmake it GB3. __________________ Nothing can survive the will to stay alive, cause if you try, you can do anything.

11-09-2021, 11:42 PM	#700
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	I think losing the co-creator and primary creative force is a pretty significant mark against this being a "true" Ghostbusters 3. Let's be honest, it's not like they lost the sound tech or a key grip. I know Aykroyd always had a ton of creative input as well over the years, but have you actually seen his original unfiltered ideas for the first movie? Just awful. I lay a ton of what Ghostbusters ultimately became on Ramis, and to a lesser extent Reitman, filtering out Dan's goofball and completely impossible ideas and turning them into something workable. To imply that losing Ramis was some kind of minor speed bump and that this one is "just as good" as a real Ghostbusters 3 is pretty nuts.